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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 28 February 2012, 09:22:28
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Mines fubar, been patched, but it won't last long.
GM are out, too expensive for what they are.
There's Eternal car, but I'd prefer something that lasts a bit longer if possible.
Jetex list a cat back system for 3.2 saloon, but it's over £500 and I probably don't need the back box anyway.
Anyone else know of any other manufacturer that makes omega exhausts?
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look at longlife they did mine on stainless and wasn't too badly priced and will set it to your sound specification as well :y
Your Nearest Dealer
Basingstoke
Address Fastfit Service Centre
Unit 1 Moniton Trading Est
Westham Lane
Town Basingstoke
County Hampshire
Postcode RG22 5EE
Contact Details
Manager Matt
Telephone 01256 688 562
Email basingstoke@longlife.co.uk
Opening Hours
Mon - Fri 8.30am - 6.00pm
Sat 8.30am - 1.00pm
Sun CLOSED
http://www.longlife.co.uk/dealer-locator/
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Yeah there's a complication with hand made, noise issues aside, I have yet to fit irmscher back box and bumper and would want that in place prior to hand made being fitted.
But I can't do that because mines so fragile it would fall to bits leaving nothing to clamp on to. I could probably get round that with some faffing, but it would be easier and cheaper to fit irmscher bumper and back box, with exhaust mid sectionson on the drive job done.
I also spoke to Jetex, their mid sections won't fit anyway as they use a 63.5mm bore. What's on the car now is 50.5 according to my vernias, so would have to reduce the mid section ends down to fit the irmscher rear box.
Although I've just noticed they do custom fit, so might be able to alter thier mid section ends then post them out. Still £300 plus vat just for mid sections though. :-\
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Whatever you decide, it must be twin pipe all the way through as GM designed it otherwise you may get the performance issues we have witnessed before ;)
Apparently the Jetex system is a direct replacement, i.e. twin pipes, and pretty good. I know I'm considering similar ;) Although that depends if I can get a decent quote from Longlife
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Yes, non of this single pipe mid section nonsense.
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How expensive is too expensive for the GM one? Only ask as istr that cat back for mine was £350ish... :-\ memory faded but will dig out invoice in a jiffy :y
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How expensive is too expensive for the GM one? Only ask as istr that cat back for mine was £350ish... :-\ memory faded but will dig out invoice in a jiffy :y
Yeah they are about that I guess, as the vat has gone up since I got mine on the previous car. The cost isn't the issue so much, it's the fact that GM no longer make it to the original spec. So they don't last anywhere near as long as the original system. Comparable life to Eternal car in fact, which costs 1/3 of the GM price.
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Fair enough :y
FWIW I bought mine in Feb 2010 and 135k, now on 202k and no issues inspite of the car sitting unused from July 2010 through to Feb 2011.
Was gen VX but not sure of the spec :-\ p/n: 093181163 £111.20 Ctr Pipe
093181160 £97.60 Ctr Pipe
093192233 £94.40 Back Box (Estate)
Above included 20% discount, but works out at approx £240 for the Centre Pipes with VaT and no discount. :y
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Just tried to ring Eternal car again, as they only appear to list one side of the centre section, and no double exit tail pipe, but they won't answer the phone. What sort of business is that. Been trying since Friday.
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Chris,
Not sure if it'll help you out, but if you're really stuck and want something to get you by, I have a complete standard twin exhaust system (single back box outlet) for a v6.
It's a used item, but like I say, may help you out in the short term. I'd have to send it via carriar though as I'm not local to you.
Let me know if you're interested?
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I've had my Eternal on for over 2yrs, and given how it looks/sounds now, I'm expecting at least another 2yrs from it, maybe more. Hard to tell, as they rot inside out.
Genuine GM (old style, high quality) lasted me around 5yrs.
One of my annoyances are droney exhausts, hence I will replace mine with eternal. Its a known quantity, and is cheap.
As for dealing with eternal, its egay shop only. Wasting your time to call them, they won't tell you anything.
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only posting as i need one p0430 code what side is this on.
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only posting as i need one p0430 code what side is this on.
Bank 2, passenger
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I'm in the same boat. I have a droney, boomy exhaust that I have moaned so much about. Longlife haven't got back to me with a price so I tried again but chose a different branch. Can't justify the £500 Jetex want :-\
Let us know what you go for
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I'm going to (when I can find some money!) fit an Eternal exhaust, Stainless one currently is too droney at motorway speeds.
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only posting as i need one p0430 code what side is this on.
That's a cat issue, or more specifically a pre cat issue, and really is nothing to worry about. Although the light is annoying. It's a well covered subject, so worth a search and a look through the guides. There is a guide on relocating the second lambda, if you can find someone to weld etc. it's cheaper.
My search here really relates to the system from the cats back. Pipe work and silencers etc. replacememt of which will have no affect on 0420/0430 pre cat efficiency codes.
Hth
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Yeah there's a complication with hand made, noise issues aside, I have yet to fit irmscher back box and bumper and would want that in place prior to hand made being fitted.
But I can't do that because mines so fragile it would fall to bits leaving nothing to clamp on to. I could probably get round that with some faffing, but it would be easier and cheaper to fit irmscher bumper and back box, with exhaust mid sectionson on the drive job done.
I also spoke to Jetex, their mid sections won't fit anyway as they use a 63.5mm bore. What's on the car now is 50.5 according to my vernias, so would have to reduce the mid section ends down to fit the irmscher rear box.
Although I've just noticed they do custom fit, so might be able to alter thier mid section ends then post them out. Still £300 plus vat just for mid sections though. :-\
As you have already seen, Jetex do reducers for custom build so this may help you to link up to the Irmscher back box. I have a stainless Jetex on mine and it is a very good fit but at over £300 for just the centre's I can see why you would be reluctant.
If you want to go stainless your choice would seem to be:
Jetex or similar middle boxes with reducers to join up with Irmscher back box so that you can fit it yourself
or
Saw off your exhaust's just after the middle boxes so that the hangers still support it, fit your Irmscher bumper, put your Irmscher exhaust in the boot and drive to a Longlife centre and ask them to make the Cats back bits to join the two sections. It wouldn't be that noisy for just that one journey. ;D
Regards
Alan
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Yeah there's a complication with hand made, noise issues aside, I have yet to fit irmscher back box and bumper and would want that in place prior to hand made being fitted.
But I can't do that because mines so fragile it would fall to bits leaving nothing to clamp on to. I could probably get round that with some faffing, but it would be easier and cheaper to fit irmscher bumper and back box, with exhaust mid sectionson on the drive job done.
I also spoke to Jetex, their mid sections won't fit anyway as they use a 63.5mm bore. What's on the car now is 50.5 according to my vernias, so would have to reduce the mid section ends down to fit the irmscher rear box.
Although I've just noticed they do custom fit, so might be able to alter thier mid section ends then post them out. Still £300 plus vat just for mid sections though. :-\
As you have already seen, Jetex do reducers for custom build so this may help you to link up to the Irmscher back box. I have a stainless Jetex on mine and it is a very good fit but at over £300 for just the centre's I can see why you would be reluctant.
If you want to go stainless your choice would seem to be:
Jetex or similar middle boxes with reducers to join up with Irmscher back box so that you can fit it yourself
or
Saw off your exhaust's just after the middle boxes so that the hangers still support it, fit your Irmscher bumper, put your Irmscher exhaust in the boot and drive to a Longlife centre and ask them to make the Cats back bits to join the two sections. It wouldn't be that noisy for just that one journey. ;D
Regards
Alan
;D the thought had crossed my mind Al. ;)
Might give Jetex a ring in the morning, see what they can do via the custom route.
Options seem to be;
Hand made (too noisy, expensive with dual pipes' power loss with single mid section???)
GM. (too expensive for the poor quality)
Eternal. (similar quality to GM but 1/3 the price, I hate eBay)
Other similar eBay (unknown)
Jetex. (looks quality, but then it rather well should be at that price, noise?)
No other sport systems seem to supply for the omega.
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Oh, and how is the Jetex for noise Al?
Ta
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My father, who is a retired engineer, recently replaced his Omega exhaust. He used National Tyres? He thought the quality looked very average, however he gave it a chance for two weeks. He eventually had to insist on a replacement, as it was as noisy as hell!!
They replaced it with the following: "Euro Car Parts/ React/ Aluminised/ Premium/ 2 year guarantee". He felt the quality was significantly better and he feels it is almost as quiet as his original VX exhaust :y
It is hard to please the old devil ;D ;D ;D
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My father, who is a retired engineer, recently replaced his Omega exhaust. He used National Tyres? He thought the quality looked very average, however he gave it a chance for two weeks. He eventually had to insist on a replacement, as it was as noisy as hell!!
They replaced it with the following: "Euro Car Parts/ React/ Aluminised/ Premium/ 2 year guarantee". He felt the quality was significantly better and he feels it is almost as quiet as his original VX exhaust :y
It is hard to please the old devil ;D ;D ;D
Similar problem here with mine.
Was forced to stick 2 cheep centre sections on mine last year before I did the lpg.
Both was full off the bits of 3 cats that I had managed to burn out the year before :'(
The car sounds crap tbh :( Like some chaved up boy racer :(
Chris, if you have a look on ebay, they is a company (can't remember the name) that sell twin pipe and the centre section exhausts for our cars :y
Looking at the pictures and discription, I believe they are made in the same factory as eternal :y
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got a patched up true genuine GM one on my 3.2, not looking forward to that failing :'(
Need a supplier who can do double walled non-stainless ones really :-\
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Oh, and how is the Jetex for noise Al?
Ta
Hi Chris,
The only time you hear mild boom is under moderate acceleration and even then it is not even slightly annoying. It is quiet around town and at motorway speeds. I wouldn't say it is barely noticable, I would say it is not noticable. Part of me was disappointed that it didn't sound like a snarling beast but I'm also pleased that it is quiet. It sounds similar to my original GM exhaust when you give it some welly. Even Jetex state that they have gone for the best flow with minimum noise. :y
The Jetex system is an exact copy of the original GM system but uses larger diameter pipe. Everything lined up perfectly and I fitted mine in the drive with just the rear wheels on ramps. I did soak the flange bolts with plus gas and tied rag soaked with plus gas around the flange bolts for two days prior to undoing the bolts. :y
I'm not a fan of droney pipes and I certainly don't aprove of some outlets that cut flanges off and weld direct to existing parts. ::)
In case you want to hear mine before making a decision a PM is on its way. :y
Regards
Alan
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Hi alan,
do you find the tail pipes a bit big or do they compliment the rear end? are the tailpipes the right length? are they slash cut like the original? do you have any pictures of it?
sorry for the 101 questions
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Hi alan,
do you find the tail pipes a bit big or do they compliment the rear end? are the tailpipes the right length? are they slash cut like the original? do you have any pictures of it?
sorry for the 101 questions
The tailpipes are a bit large at twin 80mm but they fit nicely in the bumper cut-out on my estate and they grow on you. :) They are not slash cut and neither do they follow the profile of the bumper like the original GM tailpipes. :( This is one area where they could be improved in my opinion. I do have photo's of mine but they are on my iphone and as I don't sync very often I'm buggered if I know how to email them to my own email so that I can get them on photobucket and then get them on here :-[ (I'm at work at the moment). Whatever happened to "select photo and send", job done, like it used to be instead of all this icloud/GMail malarky. :-[
Failing that, I'll post up the photo's from my laptop tomorrow (I am still capable of doing that) ::) ;D
Regards
Alan
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car going into vauxhall for 1 hour to sea what problem is £80 + vat,thay are not having two hours,im waiting and timing them.
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car going into vauxhall for 1 hour to sea what problem is £80 + vat,thay are not having two hours,im waiting and timing them.
Don't let it into Vauxhall :o :o We've already told you why you've got that code ;)
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car going into vauxhall for 1 hour to sea what problem is £80 + vat,thay are not having two hours,im waiting and timing them.
Jesus don't give it to those idiots. They'll want to stick a new engine in it.
I'd strongly suggest a pm to Daz(think hes done this job) to re weld the second lambda post main cat.
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See here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90613.0
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car going into vauxhall for 1 hour to sea what problem is £80 + vat,thay are not having two hours,im waiting and timing them.
Cancel appt with dealer. They will come back stating it needs a new cat (£400+). It doesn't. It needs a sensor moving, which GM cannot do.
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the rear sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay ::)
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
...there's no if about it. You do need your sensors moving. But they(vx) won't know a blind thing about any of that.
However, in effect, all moving the sensors does is turn the dash light off, by fixing the fault thar causes the engine code in the first place.
More importantly this will NOT fail the mot. It's not an emissions issue, because the main cat is working fine and doing its job.
Sadly vx will only waiste your money. Don't do it.
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the front sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay ::)
*cough, rear, cough cough* ;D ;)
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the rear sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay ::)
*cough, rear, cough cough* ;D ;)
That's what it says :-X ::)
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0420/0430 occur on mine twice a year ... 2/3 days after arrival in France, then 2/3 days after returning home. I am CONVINCED it is the change of fuel that the sensors pick up as an underperforming Cat.
so, new cat ?? move sensors ?? .... or in my case .. buy a simple code reader/resetter for £80. Light comes on. stop. reader out of boot. read codes to check it is 0420/0430. reset. continue on my way until the next time.
When I changed from the old 2.5 to this 3.2 I was told on this forum it was not a matter of "if" this fault happens .. but "when" .... and as usual they were right.
You just have to choose your solution ..... :)
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the rear sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay ::)
*cough, rear, cough cough* ;D ;)
That's what it says :-X ::)
I knew what you meant. ;)
Here's that diag again
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/6a45a12d.jpg)
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0420/0430 occur on mine twice a year ... 2/3 days after arrival in France, then 2/3 days after returning home. I am CONVINCED it is the change of fuel that the sensors pick up as an underperforming Cat.
so, new cat ?? move sensors ?? .... or in my case .. buy a simple code reader/resetter for £80. Light comes on. stop. reader out of boot. read codes to check it is 0420/0430. reset. continue on my way until the next time.
When I changed from the old 2.5 to this 3.2 I was told on this forum it was not a matter of "if" this fault happens .. but "when" .... and as usual they were right.
You just have to choose your solution ..... :)
Works for you, but others will have less joy, depending on condition of starting cats.
Moving, IMHO, is the permenent, workable, cost effective solution for most.
:)
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Hi alan,
do you find the tail pipes a bit big or do they compliment the rear end? are the tailpipes the right length? are they slash cut like the original? do you have any pictures of it?
sorry for the 101 questions
To answer SMD's question, here's some pics of a Jetex system on my 3.2 estate.
Yes I know the towbars ugly and yes I would like a detachable one. ::) :y
Would have preferred the tailpipes slash cut and profiled to bumper but hey ho.
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/IMGP2819-1.jpg)
(Sorry about poor quality photo)
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Omega32Plate5-1.jpg)
A bit Max Power 'ish'
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Omega32Plate4-1.jpg)
And the car it is fitted to
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/IMGP2833-1.jpg)
Regards
Alan
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I can see fuel having an effect, but only because the pre cats are border line. My old 3.2 was fine in my ownership, but as soon as another owner had it, with a more sedate driving style, BING on came the light. If I'd had It back to drive the light would have gone off again.
Although it would eventually come on and stay on no matter what, no doubt.
I often wonder about chiselling out the old pre cat innards, once the 2nd lambda has been moved, see if that frees up any flow. :-\
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I can see fuel having an effect, but only because the pre cats are border line. My old 3.2 was fine in my ownership, but as soon as another owner had it, with a more sedate driving style, BING on came the light. If I'd had It back to drive the light would have gone off again.
Although it would eventually come on and stay on no matter what, no doubt.
I often wonder about chiselling out the old pre cat innards, once the 2nd lambda has been moved, see if that frees up any flow. :-\
just chop the buggers off chris? lol
alex
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I presume, the size of a cat is calculated by the area of the material that sits in the flow. So the available exit area for the exhaust gas is the same...?
My concern surrounds the way the cat degrades. Does it collapse? Or is it just the coating gets thin and the chemical reaction fails. As the code suggests its an efficiency issue, they get bloody hot I'm sure.
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the rear sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay
after having sensor one replaced filled up at bp then on to cardiff, stayed at a steady 65mph all the way,but on the way back was braking the spped limit it all the way thats when light came on, and a couple off times went in limp mode.
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sea now im confused,this code does not mean the cat has gone,so im told,other items can cause this,so i was looking at them to tell me,i no the maniac at the workshop,but has to go through right channels to get it in thier he may take longer but i will still get charged 1 hour,mot is due soon,report back after tuesday if i need my sensors moving.thanks
Trust us, we know what we're talking about ;)
If you take it in then they will tell you that you need new Cats at some astronomical price :o :o
All it needs is the rear sensors moving ;)
Just out of interest, what petrol do you use? There is a theory that quality fuel and an enthusiastic driving style can keep it at bay
after having sensor one replaced filled up at bp then on to cardiff, stayed at a steady 65mph all the way,but on the way back was braking the spped limit it all the way thats when light came on, and a couple off times went in limp mode.
it probably came on on a time basis, another 5mph won't make any odds. A proper blast might if the cats aren't too far gone. Sensors won't make any odds. It's not a fuel mixture issue. It's nothing to do with emissions. The emissions are fine.
It's to do with the actual honey comb coating of the cat material in the first cat. The second big cat is fine, these never/rarely fail. So, re locate the second lambda to a position downstream of the main cat, and the main cat will do the job of the first cat and clean the gases. Problem solved.
Although its no great problem anyway. It just brings the engine light on. Don't worry about it, and keep It out of Vauxhall.
Hang on, limp mode? That's another issue. Suggest do the pedal trick and re check the codes. Something else is going on here.
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Jetex list a cat back system for 3.2 saloon, but it's over £500 and I probably don't need the back box anyway.
Only just noticed this Chris but last time I looked Demon Tweeks do the stainless Jetex cat back system for £472 inc vat.
I had one on my Senator and they sound nice but not noisey, a nice tone to them.
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0420/0430 occur on mine twice a year ... 2/3 days after arrival in France, then 2/3 days after returning home. I am CONVINCED it is the change of fuel that the sensors pick up as an underperforming Cat.
so, new cat ?? move sensors ?? .... or in my case .. buy a simple code reader/resetter for £80. Light comes on. stop. reader out of boot. read codes to check it is 0420/0430. reset. continue on my way until the next time.
When I changed from the old 2.5 to this 3.2 I was told on this forum it was not a matter of "if" this fault happens .. but "when" .... and as usual they were right.
You just have to choose your solution ..... :)
Entwood's solution has works just fine with me - also had situation when light came on and after 3 days or so and definitely not 30 clean starts it went off. I have the maxscan to reset.
Probably is 2 or 3 times a year and just reset.
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look at longlife they did mine on stainless and wasn't too badly priced and will set it to your sound specification as well :y
Your Nearest Dealer
Basingstoke
Address Fastfit Service Centre
Unit 1 Moniton Trading Est
Westham Lane
Town Basingstoke
County Hampshire
Postcode RG22 5EE
Contact Details
Manager Matt
Telephone 01256 688 562
Email basingstoke@longlife.co.uk
Opening Hours
Mon - Fri 8.30am - 6.00pm
Sat 8.30am - 1.00pm
Sun CLOSED
http://www.longlife.co.uk/dealer-locator/
Been in touch with them today and it will be about £400 for a dual branch irmscher type back box to be made. Cheaper to fit conventional bumper and standard back box.
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Thanks to Alan for the pictures. I think the tailpipes are growing on me (slowly). I received my quote from longlife a few days ago, £391
So Jetex is £70 more than handmade and possibly quieter but with slightly uglier tailpipes. I think that's a compromise I can live with. Would anyone be interested in a group buy? GM last made the twinwall exhaust in 2007. 5 years on surely these now need replacing.. :P
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All parts direct do similar lengths of tube to this
http://merlinmotorsport.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1537%20&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=ShoppingUK&utm_campaign=ShoppingUK
Two arriving tomorrow. Measure parts for cutting. Remove back box. Cut the rotten bit out, cut new tubes to length. Clamp the new tubes onto the car exhaust, re fit back box. Smart!
Hopefully. :-\. £26 bloody quid for two though. :o
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Oooooo I like those, has yours failed in similar place to mine? If £26 keeps a genuine going another few years, worth every penny!
Think a trip down your way is needed soon...
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Suspect it probably has, they all go in much the same place.
My only slight concern is cutting the pipes on the car. I have a small angle grinder with cutting disk. But not sure the disc is big enough diameter to cut all the way through. Could hacksaw the rest but access is bound to be a mare.
Pipe cutters go that big I wonder...? They do exhaust pipe cutters, not cheap.
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Actually no, pipe cutter no good. Pipes are too closes together. :(
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Room for a plasma cutter? :D
Not sure where we can get access though, guess on stands makes things harder. Be better to get the car high in the air, when are you looking at doing this?
Mine looks like swiss cheese between centre and back box :(
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If it's all here in time Chris we could pop over to my unit at the weekend ???
I've got a suitably sized angle grinder
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Would that be this weekend? Would not mind crashing in on this, but I doubt I could get exhaust pipes in time :(
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Would that be this weekend? Would not mind crashing in on this, but I doubt I could get exhaust pipes in time :(
Most decent motor factors stock lengths of exhaust straight pipe in various diameters.
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Would that be this weekend? Would not mind crashing in on this, but I doubt I could get exhaust pipes in time :(
Most decent motor factors stock lengths of exhaust straight pipe in various diameters.
Good point, although decent motor factors are getting hard to come by :(
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Would that be this weekend? Would not mind crashing in on this, but I doubt I could get exhaust pipes in time :(
It would be ;) Although I'm not sure what time things will be as I'm still on call and could be dragged away at any moment ::) Wouldn't want you to have a wasted trip ;)
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Is a fair way, so good point raised. :(
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Is a fair way, so good point raised. :(
Plus, let's confirm we can bodge make it work ;)
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Is a fair way, so good point raised. :(
Plus, let's confirm we can bodge make it work ;)
Look forward to hearing the results :)
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Hiya Chris,
Had a chat with brother in law and he confirmed the one fitted to my car (saloon exhaust on my estate) is this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXGM6029-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-5-Exhaust-Rear-Tail-Pipe-/120824401153?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c21b20d01
Hope it helps fella :y
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Get someone to halfs with you on this. Get pipes of and sell rest for parts get money back just thinking aloud just another option and if it goes cheap anough. ebay item number-- 180841725721
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Had a good go at this today. Since last I bodged it, it had rusted even more. Sadly all the way up to the bend. Probably not worth the agro tbh as its a right battle from start to finish. Plus there's nothing to clamp onto on the end of the mid sections.
...unless we can get hold of a similar section with the right bend in it, and cut more wrotten section out.
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(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/0cee94c1.jpg)
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Thats a shame, I'll have to have a closer look at mine, I think mine is fairly solid just past the bend, but need to double check
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It's fooked then. Unless you can find a pipe with the right bend in it. Long shot I'd say. Very long.
Although, if your desperate to keep the back box and it's structurally ok, replace the mid sections only. But I had to cut about an inch and a half off the box pipe work because the join had rusted together with the rusted section still in it. Then use the tubes to make up the gap. But it's a lot of rather about reaming out the rust to get it to fit correctly.
Not a nice way to spend 5 hours. May as well fit sumat new.
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And by the way. Power flow. Got another car here with one fitted. It's twin pipe all the way through, but what a lash up. Numerous joins, extra boxes to try and quiten it down and it's still too loud, and they've cut about 6 inches off the end of the cats , presumably because they can't manufacture the clamp to cat mechanism on the mid sections.
A bodge it seems to me. Car doesn't feel particularly quick either. Contrary to what the owner said.
Not good IMO.
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Had a good go at this today. Since last I bodged it, it had rusted even more. Sadly all the way up to the bend. Probably not worth the agro tbh as its a right battle from start to finish. Plus there's nothing to clamp onto on the end of the mid sections.
...unless we can get hold of a similar section with the right bend in it, and cut more wrotten section out.
And the non rusty parts are only likely to last months anyway - they rust inside out. Not worth the bother IMHO.
IME, the eternals are as quiet as GM, and cheap enough, you could have 3 sets for a custom made one...
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Had a good go at this today. Since last I bodged it, it had rusted even more. Sadly all the way up to the bend. Probably not worth the agro tbh as its a right battle from start to finish. Plus there's nothing to clamp onto on the end of the mid sections.
...unless we can get hold of a similar section with the right bend in it, and cut more wrotten section out.
And the non rusty parts are only likely to last months anyway - they rust inside out. Not worth the bother IMHO.
IME, the eternals are as quiet as GM, and cheap enough, you could have 3 sets for a custom made one...
They are just too long to post. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/shitsfan.gif)
.. or have they resolved that issue now? ;)
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A bodge it seems to me. Car doesn't feel particularly quick either. Contrary to what the owner said.
TheDaddys MV6 had Powerflow and decat (probably because Powerflow are not good enough to make said clamp), and it was gutless. Cats and eternal exhaust improved things, as did throwing away the cone filter - clearly demonstrating the performance hits these supposed 'performance tweaks' suffer.
This engine had been Markey Mark'd, but full power was returned by a bit of Pink Stokkie fairy dust. And its now pretty rapid :y
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Had a good go at this today. Since last I bodged it, it had rusted even more. Sadly all the way up to the bend. Probably not worth the agro tbh as its a right battle from start to finish. Plus there's nothing to clamp onto on the end of the mid sections.
...unless we can get hold of a similar section with the right bend in it, and cut more wrotten section out.
And the non rusty parts are only likely to last months anyway - they rust inside out. Not worth the bother IMHO.
IME, the eternals are as quiet as GM, and cheap enough, you could have 3 sets for a custom made one...
They are just too long to post. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/shitsfan.gif)
.. or have they resolved that issue now? ;)
I would suggest, as they know the couriers restrictions for a few weeks, that must be overcome now :-\