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Title: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 March 2012, 23:57:08
I've just bought a Peugeot 407 estate which needs a new rear tyre.  It's got a TPMS which I've never come across before.  Do they fit a tyre as normal or is it a faff with sensors etc ie expensive??  :-\

TIA  :y
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: MaxV6 on 06 March 2012, 00:07:47
i think they're fitted as normal until you need a new valve, then it gets pricey,   a mate had his disabled by the dealer,  coz he had no intention of paying around a ton per valve....   
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 08:07:01
Valves can be bought for around 30-40 quid and you can also get service kits to replace the internal valve assembly.

The biggest risk is the tyre fitter catching the sensor part when removing the tyre (although most seem to be wise to this now)
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: flyer 0712 on 07 March 2012, 00:57:03
isnt there something in the m.o.t. now that states if these are fitted they must be working as they come into the test now..??????
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Andy B on 07 March 2012, 01:10:37
isnt there something in the m.o.t. now that states if these are fitted they must be working as they come into the test now..??????

I believe so ............  :-\
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 07 March 2012, 07:58:28
isnt there something in the m.o.t. now that states if these are fitted they must be working as they come into the test now..??????

I believe so ............  :-\

Yes is def answer
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 March 2012, 10:00:27
It was an advisory on the MOT......  :-\
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: henryd on 07 March 2012, 10:12:36
I believe its April when all the new warning lamp regs start
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Phil on 09 March 2012, 17:50:48

The biggest risk is the tyre fitter catching the sensor part when removing the tyre (although most seem to be wise to this now)

The bigger risk is the metal caps that these have as standard corrode onto the valve stem then snap the stem when you try to get them off!!

As you don't need to check the pressures manually you don't know its an issue until its too late!!

Vxl's replacement valves are £32 - £40 each on line and the service kit (replacement valve insert and rubber 'O' ring) is about £3 plus its 'self learning' so if you only have 3 valves fitted it doesn't come up with an error it just monitors the ones that are there, plus if you add a new one/ replace a removed one it automatically adds itself to the system, no need for computer adjustment - this is based on the Vectra C/ Signum, which due to standard Vxl half ar5ed look at life, some cars only have it on 2 wheels (front) some do all 4.

Main problem is you cannot manually check the pressure you don't know if its actually working until a problem occurs and you cannot change the threshold - tyre pressure is 41psi it warns you when it gets below 37psi.

Although the Vxl system is quite good and fairly simple I would put money on the Frog version to be a real PITA

Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 09 March 2012, 18:23:43

The biggest risk is the tyre fitter catching the sensor part when removing the tyre (although most seem to be wise to this now)

The bigger risk is the metal caps that these have as standard corrode onto the valve stem then snap the stem when you try to get them off!!

As you don't need to check the pressures manually you don't know its an issue until its too late!!

Vxl's replacement valves are £32 - £40 each on line and the service kit (replacement valve insert and rubber 'O' ring) is about £3 plus its 'self learning' so if you only have 3 valves fitted it doesn't come up with an error it just monitors the ones that are there, plus if you add a new one/ replace a removed one it automatically adds itself to the system, no need for computer adjustment - this is based on the Vectra C/ Signum, which due to standard Vxl half ar5ed look at life, some cars only have it on 2 wheels (front) some do all 4.

Main problem is you cannot manually check the pressure you don't know if its actually working until a problem occurs and you cannot change the threshold - tyre pressure is 41psi it warns you when it gets below 37psi.

Although the Vxl system is quite good and fairly simple I would put money on the Frog version to be a real PITA

So if you drive often with a fully loaded boot, and want higher pressure & therefore higher low warning, you can't?
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 March 2012, 20:13:23

The biggest risk is the tyre fitter catching the sensor part when removing the tyre (although most seem to be wise to this now)

The bigger risk is the metal caps that these have as standard corrode onto the valve stem then snap the stem when you try to get them off!!
As you don't need to check the pressures manually you don't know its an issue until its too late!!

Vxl's replacement valves are £32 - £40 each on line and the service kit (replacement valve insert and rubber 'O' ring) is about £3 plus its 'self learning' so if you only have 3 valves fitted it doesn't come up with an error it just monitors the ones that are there, plus if you add a new one/ replace a removed one it automatically adds itself to the system, no need for computer adjustment - this is based on the Vectra C/ Signum, which due to standard Vxl half ar5ed look at life, some cars only have it on 2 wheels (front) some do all 4.

Main problem is you cannot manually check the pressure you don't know if its actually working until a problem occurs and you cannot change the threshold - tyre pressure is 41psi it warns you when it gets below 37psi.

Although the Vxl system is quite good and fairly simple I would put money on the Frog version to be a real PITA

Vx changed thiers so this wont happen, they also replaced faulty ones for free  :y
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Phil on 12 March 2012, 09:15:05

So if you drive often with a fully loaded boot, and want higher pressure & therefore higher low warning, you can't?

Basically yes, in the half CAN Vectra C/ Signum there is no option for checking/ adjusting manually. Think in the full CAN cars there is a 'secret menu' to check current pressure but not 100% sure.

Other car makers or the add on systems may be different but Vxl isn't


Vx changed thiers so this wont happen, they also replaced faulty ones for free  :y

Wish i had known that 9 months ago!!  >:(
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 12 March 2012, 20:06:42

So if you drive often with a fully loaded boot, and want higher pressure & therefore higher low warning, you can't?

Basically yes, in the half CAN Vectra C/ Signum there is no option for checking/ adjusting manually. Think in the full CAN cars there is a 'secret menu' to check current pressure but not 100% sure.

Other car makers or the add on systems may be different but Vxl isn't


Vx changed thiers so this wont happen, they also replaced faulty ones for free  :y

Wish i had known that 9 months ago!!  >:(

fail
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 March 2012, 08:17:25
These systems are only a failure on vehicles registered from 2012 onwards
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 March 2012, 10:21:57
I thought that the TPMS in the Peugeot was disabled as I've been getting the message " Tyre pressures not monitored" flashing up.  ::)  I manually checked the pressures the other day and there are only three sensors, all are badly corroded, one of which is so bad I couldn't get an airline on it!! I must has disturbed it though as I now get a puncture message!!!  :-\

What a load of French Merde!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Tyre pressure monitering systems
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 13 March 2012, 19:14:47
These systems are only a failure on vehicles registered from 2012 onwards

? I meant fail as in bad idea.....