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Title: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: STMO123 on 11 March 2012, 08:54:09
The cyclists who ride two abreast (having a nice chat), or the woman driver who refuses to overtake them, even when there is half a mile of clear road in front and she is being 'encouraged' by the half a mile queue behind?
I waited for ages and, I know I shouldn't, but went past her and the bikes. This is in my 0-60 in 14 secs mummy bus, so she obviously had plenty of room. Of course, once I did it, the flood gates opened. Bet she was shittin herself. ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: omega3000 on 11 March 2012, 09:04:55
Was she driving a morris minor and her head level with the steering wheel top  :-\
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 11 March 2012, 09:05:26
I get wound up by that two, as well as though cyclists that seem to believe that red lights and other road markings, do not apply to them  >:(
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: feeutfo on 11 March 2012, 09:14:41
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 11 March 2012, 09:26:12
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)

Try telling that the poor sod driving through on a green, nearly taking out the cyclist going across the front of him ???

I'm not against cyclists, I do ride occassionally AND I ride motorbikes, so been on the other side of the fence ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: doz on 11 March 2012, 09:35:48
As I said to the cyclist when having a argument about riding 3 a breast. When you pay road tax you can ride like that. There is however something far worse than cyclist. So dark and scary. It's the "Old hag horse rider" You know the ones I mean. Majority of gee gee riders are pretty cool but this one can cause cars to stop running just with a mild stare. Living right on the edge of the New Forest I have to deal with these on a weekly basis. They ride like they own the road and if you find two of them riding together you might as well turn round and find another way
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: feeutfo on 11 March 2012, 09:40:42
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)

Try telling that the poor sod driving through on a green, nearly taking out the cyclist going across the front of him ???

I'm not against cyclists, I do ride occassionally AND I ride motorbikes, so been on the other side of the fence ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was thinking pedestrian crossing tbh.

... but on the other hand from your point, I don't see a problem with a cyclist crossing if there's nothing coming, any difference to a pedestrian crossing if safe to do so. There's nothing to stop a pedestrian, or to stop a cyclist following the pedestrian.

The way I see it, rightly or wrongly, cyclists and pedestrians are one and the same.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: feeutfo on 11 March 2012, 09:43:14
As I said to the cyclist when having a argument about riding 3 a breast. When you pay road tax you can ride like that. There is however something far worse than cyclist. So dark and scary. It's the "Old hag horse rider" You know the ones I mean. Majority of gee gee riders are pretty cool but this one can cause cars to stop running just with a mild stare. Living right on the edge of the New Forest I have to deal with these on a weekly basis. They ride like they own the road and if you find two of them riding together you might as well turn round and find another way
Don't think there's any legal reason why they can't ride any number abreast, is there?
I find it extremely ignorant behaviour personally, but they have every right to be there.

And as for horses, they should use the footpath where available IMO. But again, every right to be there.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 11 March 2012, 09:46:43
Pedestrians & cyclists the same?  IMO, I can't see how that can be. If you ride on the road, EVERYONE should abide by the rules of the road.  Some cyclists, usually hardcore, can do a good speed 30-40mph. At this point, what is the difference then to a motorcyclist? Yes, he has an engine, but 30mph on a pushbike or motorbike is gonna hurt. The motorcyclist just can't go through red lights or ignore road instructions?

Like I said, just IMO :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: doz on 11 March 2012, 09:48:57
I thought the highway code says cyclist must be in single file. Me and a mate were doing "CHiP" riding on our motorbikes on the M27 and got a right good bollickin from Plod for being to abreast in the same lane
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Martian on 11 March 2012, 09:54:09
Don't think there's any legal reason why they can't ride any number abreast, is there?
I find it extremely ignorant behaviour personally, but they have every right to be there.

And as for horses, they should use the footpath where available IMO. But again, every right to be there.
It's a very long time since I read the highway code (1982 to be precise), but if memory serves me correctly I remember it saying something about being no more than 2 abreast. Also can't remember whether the actual wording was "must not" or "should not".
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: waspy on 11 March 2012, 09:55:49
I love it when they ride two, three or sometime four (verg to the white line) driving a diseasel, I just wait for a gap & cover them in shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Martian on 11 March 2012, 09:58:29
Me and a mate were doing "CHiP" riding on our motorbikes on the M27 and got a right good bollickin from Plod for being to abreast in the same lane
I'm not surprised plod wasn't impressed, a motorcycle is moderately wider & heavier than a treader and moves considerably quicker which means less chance of correcting any minor errors if a mistake is made.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Varche on 11 March 2012, 10:02:10
Go on then, I will ask what was so urgent that you had to get by rather than bide your time? What did you do with the time you saved?

Had you not got music, thought of the day,texts to send or perhaps solitude to do some contemplation. 
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2012, 10:15:37
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Auto Addict on 11 March 2012, 10:22:23
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Dr_X on 11 March 2012, 10:24:55
It's simple........I'm the only person that should be allowed on the road and be able to travel at any speed I like, that would solve alot of problems... ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2012, 10:36:36
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Dr_X on 11 March 2012, 10:39:29
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: tgm147 on 11 March 2012, 10:43:02
Out of those two, the cyclists aren't as much of a problem as the car that refuses to overtake. If I'm overtaking a bike I'll move as far to the right as I think I should to allow a safe gap. Normally if there's nothing coming towards me and it's a good sized gap I'll just go onto the other side of the white line. I'd rather leave a big gap because if you fall off and roll around on the road, I'd rather you didn't end up rolling under my tyres. If it was a car or two refusing to overtake then I'd just carry on until there was a decent gap, look behind and down the road in front, indicate out, make sure nobody has pulled out in front then plant it and overtake the lot of them. Nothing wrong with multi car overtakes.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2012, 10:46:48
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Thats my liberal side.

Having recently been rear ended quite badly, I could see the danger.

Had the cyclist acknowledged his mistake, I may have let it pass, as no collision happened. But the fact the stupid, retarded, arrogant, dimwitted, useless, retarded rather useless dimwitted rather retarded retard hurled abuse at the innocent party, the arrogant retard needs shooting, along with anyone with the same genes.

And to make sure they're dead, shoot them again.

rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 11 March 2012, 10:49:08
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Thats my liberal side.

Having recently been rear ended quite badly, I could see the danger.

Had the cyclist acknowledged his mistake, I may have let it pass, as no collision happened. But the fact the stupid, retarded, arrogant, dimwitted, useless, retarded rather useless dimwitted rather retarded retard hurled abuse at the innocent party, the arrogant retard needs shooting, along with anyone with the same genes.

And to make sure they're dead, shoot them again.

rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)

Well said :y  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: tgm147 on 11 March 2012, 10:50:44
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Thats my liberal side.

Having recently been rear ended quite badly, I could see the danger.

Had the cyclist acknowledged his mistake, I may have let it pass, as no collision happened. But the fact the stupid, retarded, arrogant, dimwitted, useless, retarded rather useless dimwitted rather retarded retard hurled abuse at the innocent party, the arrogant retard needs shooting, along with anyone with the same genes.

And to make sure they're dead, shoot them again.

rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADsGc7B5uj8

Reminds me of that.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: STMO123 on 11 March 2012, 11:06:27
Go on then, I will ask what was so urgent that you had to get by rather than bide your time? What did you do with the time you saved?

Had you not got music, thought of the day,texts to send or perhaps solitude to do some contemplation.
I have a life. We don't do siestas here or we'd end up like Spain
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Varche on 11 March 2012, 11:08:59
Heaven forbid ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Gaffers on 11 March 2012, 12:38:46
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Thats my liberal side.

Having recently been rear ended quite badly, I could see the danger.

Had the cyclist acknowledged his mistake, I may have let it pass, as no collision happened. But the fact the stupid, retarded, arrogant, dimwitted, useless, retarded rather useless dimwitted rather retarded retard hurled abuse at the innocent party, the arrogant retard needs shooting, along with anyone with the same genes.

And to make sure they're dead, shoot them again.

rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)

Agreed :y
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Turk on 11 March 2012, 12:40:40
Go on then, I will ask what was so urgent that you had to get by rather than bide your time? What did you do with the time you saved?

Had you not got music, thought of the day,texts to send or perhaps solitude to do some contemplation.

 ???...that'll earn you 3 points on your licence in the UK.
 
The 'having a nice chat' statement indicates they were not hoofing along nicely at the 30+mph that most of the Lance Armstrong wannabies are capable of. So being held at 10-15mph by a couple of ignorant sweaty oikes wearing a bunch of banananas on their heads is not on.  >:(

Incidentally, I have a push bike myself so I see it from both points of view.
     
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: D on 11 March 2012, 13:00:52
Don't have a problem with cyclists running the lights personally. Provided they give pedestrians right of way obviously. :)
I was in Kingston the other day, retard cyclists jumps the red lights without looking, causing the car who's right of way it was to slam the anchors on. Cyclists gives the driver a mouthful  >:(

I toyed with jumping red light myself, catching the cyclist, and mowing the tosspot down. Then reversing over him. We have too many retards on this earth.

Quite tolerent towards them then? ::)
No issue with him jumping, as long as no inconenience to other road/pavement users. But to cause a car to emergency stop (lucky the car behind stopped as well etc), then throw abuse as if it was the car drivers fault, the retarded cyclist not only needs shooting in front of his family, but his kids need shooting (presumably retard gene carriers), and his parents made to eat his retarded testicles.

A tad harsh
Thats my liberal side.

Having recently been rear ended quite badly, I could see the danger.

Had the cyclist acknowledged his mistake, I may have let it pass, as no collision happened. But the fact the stupid, retarded, arrogant, dimwitted, useless, retarded rather useless dimwitted rather retarded retard hurled abuse at the innocent party, the arrogant retard needs shooting, along with anyone with the same genes.

And to make sure they're dead, shoot them again.

rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)

 ;D ;D ;D

Agree with that.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: YZ250 on 11 March 2012, 13:06:06

It's a very long time since I read the highway code (1982 to be precise), but if memory serves me correctly I remember it saying something about being no more than 2 abreast. Also can't remember whether the actual wording was "must not" or "should not".

Section 66 of the Highway Code. It's a very grey area. It says you should not ride two abreast on busy or narrow windy roads. I have this debate at work on a regular basis. I also seem to upset the cyclist by asking if we car drivers get extra points for pinging the sticking out reflector as we go past.  ;D  In all seriousness, I give them plenty of room.
To answer STMO question, I blame the person who doesn't overtake when the opportunity arises.  :y
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Varche on 11 March 2012, 13:40:30

It's a very long time since I read the highway code (1982 to be precise), but if memory serves me correctly I remember it saying something about being no more than 2 abreast. Also can't remember whether the actual wording was "must not" or "should not".

Section 66 of the Highway Code. It's a very grey area. It says you should not ride two abreast on busy or narrow windy roads. I have this debate at work on a regular basis. I also seem to upset the cyclist by asking if we car drivers get extra points for pinging the sticking out reflector as we go past.  ;D  In all seriousness, I give them plenty of room.
To answer STMO question, I blame the person who doesn't overtake when the opportunity arises.  :y

And if they don't want to overtake/feel it unsafe to do so then they should drop back so that overtakers have an easier and safer job. tailgaters I hate them!
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: YZ250 on 11 March 2012, 13:55:22

It's a very long time since I read the highway code (1982 to be precise), but if memory serves me correctly I remember it saying something about being no more than 2 abreast. Also can't remember whether the actual wording was "must not" or "should not".

Section 66 of the Highway Code. It's a very grey area. It says you should not ride two abreast on busy or narrow windy roads. I have this debate at work on a regular basis. I also seem to upset the cyclist by asking if we car drivers get extra points for pinging the sticking out reflector as we go past.  ;D  In all seriousness, I give them plenty of room.
To answer STMO question, I blame the person who doesn't overtake when the opportunity arises.  :y

And if they don't want to overtake/feel it unsafe to do so then they should drop back so that overtakers have an easier and safer job.

Fully agree with that. :y :y
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: STMO123 on 11 March 2012, 13:59:19
But she couldn't drop back, I was only 3 inches off her rear bumper.  ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: YZ250 on 11 March 2012, 14:13:04
But she couldn't drop back, I was only 3 inches off her rear bumper.  ;D


I've been known to haemorrhage on occasions like this.  ;D ;D  The shouting really helps.....not.  ::) ::)

That's what front parking sensors are for.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: Martian on 11 March 2012, 14:28:30
tailgaters I hate them!
I slow down even more if I have a tailgater.
I don't do it to piss them off (although it does seem to have that effect), I do it to create a larger gap so that if the car in front brakes sharply I can still brake normally, which means the bell end on my rear has less chance of hitting me.
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: aaronjb on 11 March 2012, 15:46:04
rather retarded idiot 'I ride a pushbike, therefore I'm the most important' self-rightoues retarded cyclist arrogant prat  (the cyclist in this incident)

Always reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0XsulDXtk
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: geoffr70 on 11 March 2012, 19:10:36
tailgaters I hate them!
I slow down even more if I have a tailgater.
I don't do it to piss them off (although it does seem to have that effect), I do it to create a larger gap so that if the car in front brakes sharply I can still brake normally, which means the bell end on my rear has less chance of hitting me.

That's what I do
Title: Re: On a busy road, which is worse?
Post by: omega3000 on 11 March 2012, 19:28:02


Always reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0XsulDXtk
 ;D ;D ;D Excellent