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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 13 March 2012, 09:17:46
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Makes me laugh,living in a hot country with little rainfall, that once again SE England is facing water shortages.
I have the prefect solution. Scrap HS2 and Divert the cash and build a barrage across the Wash. That would then become a huge freshwater reservoir/tourist attraction. Some HS2 cash could even be used to install a pipeline to serve Essex and Kent etc.
Then when it is completed we could sell it to the French( after all they now control our future energy supplies so why not give them the water too). Then the money raised could be used to fund another futile war somewhere to showcase our weapons industry! :y
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I'm helping out by peeing in my neighbours garden at night. :)
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Makes me laugh,living in a hot country with little rainfall, that once again SE England is facing water shortages.
I have the prefect solution. Scrap HS2 and Divert the cash and build a barrage across the Wash. That would then become a huge freshwater reservoir/tourist attraction. Some HS2 cash could even be used to install a pipeline to serve Essex and Kent etc.
Then when it is completed we could sell it to the French( after all they now control our future energy supplies so why not give them the water too). Then the money raised could be used to fund another futile war somewhere to showcase our weapons industry! :y
Didn't think we had one anymore :(
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It's a joke isn't it. And well repeated joke at that.
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I'm looking forward to having a valid excuse not to wash my car for the next 9 months, though.. ;D
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On tv last night that Scotland's rainfall is up 23% above average yet down in carrot cruncher land, it down 25%.
Just how hard is it to build a bloody big pipeline down the middle of the country ?
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I'm helping out by peeing in my neighbours garden at night. :)
;D ;D
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I'm helping out by peeing in my neighbours garden at night. :)
;D ;D
I pee in my own ;)
If my dog can do it, I can :D :D :D
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when we had water shortage some years ago, I was using air compressor for removing dust..
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On tv last night that Scotland's rainfall is up 23% above average yet down in carrot cruncher land, it down 25%.
Just how hard is it to build a bloody big pipeline down the middle of the country ?
The pipework is easy, but pumping the water is more challenging ;)
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The do-gooders successfully prevented Thames Water from building that big reservoir near Didcot. Let those dippy retards suffer first.
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Why Worry :D
If history is anything to go by now that a Hosepipe Ban is in force it will rain for the rest of the summer ::) :(
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On tv last night that Scotland's rainfall is up 23% above average yet down in carrot cruncher land, it down 25%.
Just how hard is it to build a bloody big pipeline down the middle of the country ?
The pipework is easy, but pumping the water is more challenging ;)
Not been upto Scotland for a good few years but how high (above sea level) are these resevoirs ?
At the end of the day, water flows with gravity and I wouldn't have thought that that many pumps would be needed :-\
Then again, what the break do I know ;D ;D
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And dont tell me, it looks downhill on the map....
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When scotland build the wall of independence we will be paying them for the water , salmons not stupid :-\ Recycle the bath water and wash the car ;D
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And dont tell me, it looks downhill on the map....
I was just thinking that :D :D :D ;D
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I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
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I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
I'd wondered about that - but how fast would it empty them?
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
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The pipework is easy, but pumping the water is more challenging ;)
We do it with Natural gas (at 85 BAR) :o and Leccy. Can't see water presenting any insurmountable problems, other than getting the lazy utility companies to invest instead of resting on their laurels while denying customers the product they've paid for.
I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
I'd wondered about that - but how fast would it empty them?
Not very, and it's nice soft water, good for car washing. You'd need to filter it as crud in the water won't do a Karcher much good.
However, I have a feeling you can't even use water you've collected in this manner during a hosepipe ban.
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However, I have a feeling you can't even use water you've collected in this manner during a hosepipe ban.
Wouldn't surprise me!
I remember the company who installed my driveway had an (expensive) sump system they could install under the drive - 'permeable' blocks on sand with a filter membrane draining into a sump at the lowest point via another filter, the sump then had an installed pump and a standpipe available next to it.. all designed with car washing in mind.
I was too tight to have all that lot installed, though, so my drive runs off to a soakaway :-[ Garage roof, on the other hand, could be directed via a couple of (large) water butts..
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you can use water youve collected however you like Kevin.Just cant connect a hose to your taps. :y
Karcher runs ok off water butts as long as they are raised a bit,or quite full,otherwise you run into problems through lack of pressure to run it.
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I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
Whats wrong with a bucket and sponge ?
Bloody snob ;D ;D ;D
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Actually Albs, I just went and read the South East Water definitions, and they seem to specifically ban using a hose attached to a water butt..
Hosepipe: drawing water through hosepipe from a container, filling or partly filling a container by a means of hosepipe.
They do, however, have an exemption under car washing:
Specific low water use apparatus, such as pressure washers
So it looks like you can wash your car with a pressure washer, but not a regular hose.. regardless of where you draw the water from.
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I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
Whats wrong with a bucket and sponge ?
Bloody snob ;D ;D ;D
Let the Kozovans do it :y :y
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When scotland build the wall of independence we will be paying them for the water , salmons not stupid :-\ Recycle the bath water and wash the car ;D
IF and it is a bif If then we should ask for the settlement money back from 300 years ago. With interest it is very approx £900 BILLION. That should stop them in their tracks!!
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I can run my Karcher off my water butts in the garden. :)
Whats wrong with a bucket and sponge ?
Bloody snob ;D ;D ;D
Let the Kozovans do it :y :y
They even charge you 6 quid for that round here and you don't get a reciept and a air freshener ;D ;D
Anyway, thats one of the reasons I had kids.
Nothing wrong with a bit of child slavery labour ;D
At least we don't need a dishwasher :-X :-X
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This really annoys me, Southampton has loads of water, and rainfall. We pipe our water to Portsmouth, and now we even pipe it to to the Isle of Wight. The water company announced it a year or so ago about how proud they where and getting this pipe in on time and budget. Now Southampton gets a hose pipe ban because where supplying everyone else.
Portsmouth I can understand as they don't have room for a resovoir, but the Isle of Wight, Most of the western half of the island is devoid of any life, why the heck could they not have a resovoir. Surely it would have been cheaper to build than an underwater pipeline.
Well, I will use my hose as and when I want to, danglies to them.
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
Indeed, the presence of Kielder Water means that it is highly unlikely that we would ever have a hosepipe ban in the North East.
And you southern lot can keep your beady eyes off it. Go and dam up your own valley somewhere! There must be lots of places in the South that would look better under 100ft of water.
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Well local news is now reporting that Hampshire does not get the ban. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9586110.County_escapes_hosepipe_ban___for_now/
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
Indeed, the presence of Kielder Water means that it is highly unlikely that we would ever have a hosepipe ban in the North East.
And you southern lot can keep your beady eyes off it. Go and dam up your own valley somewhere! There must be lots of places in the South that would look better under 100ft of water.
Yes there are plenty of places that would look better. Most of them have now been built on to house all the northerners that headed south to get away from ..........................
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
Indeed, the presence of Kielder Water means that it is highly unlikely that we would ever have a hosepipe ban in the North East.
And you southern lot can keep your beady eyes off it. Go and dam up your own valley somewhere! There must be lots of places in the South that would look better under 100ft of water.
Most of the Thames Valley ;D ;D
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Well local news is now reporting that Hampshire does not get the ban. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9586110.County_escapes_hosepipe_ban___for_now/
I know where I'm coming when the car needs a wash, then ;) ;D
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Well local news is now reporting that Hampshire does not get the ban. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9586110.County_escapes_hosepipe_ban___for_now/
I know where I'm coming when the car needs a wash, then ;) ;D
:y ;D ;D
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Don't have a problem here, get our water from the sheep sh*****s ;) :D
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
Indeed, the presence of Kielder Water means that it is highly unlikely that we would ever have a hosepipe ban in the North East.
And you southern lot can keep your beady eyes off it. Go and dam up your own valley somewhere! There must be lots of places in the South that would look better under 100ft of water.
Bigger Thames barrage and fill the London basin. :o :o :o
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Many years ago I took my kids up to the Kielder Water project which was deemed a white elephant - not the case today of course. They even did Kielder Safaris by landrover with food hampers. Bet all that has gone now as the supply of water to Manchester (presumably) is in full flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielder_Water)
Indeed, the presence of Kielder Water means that it is highly unlikely that we would ever have a hosepipe ban in the North East.
And you southern lot can keep your beady eyes off it. Go and dam up your own valley somewhere! There must be lots of places in the South that would look better under 100ft of water.
With you on that one..... :y :y
In 1996? there was a huge water shortage in the south east, hosepipe ban etc and tankers transporting water from the north to the south, indeed there were lots of hosepipe bans, I was living and working in Hertford at the time. I worked with Kids and we liked the odd water fight, following a visit up North i took 200L of water from the North back South so we could continue this play, a neighbour had threatened to report us..........My thoughts were 'bring it on' it is not Southern water, test it! always kept a couple of drums full of soft northern water, just in case, the others, well just kept filling them up from the tap..... :-X :-X
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Unless I am missreading this map, it would appear the north east of England has more of a water problem than the south east. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Please feel free to point out where I am wrong.
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After the drought of 96, yorshire water built a pipe network around the east riding :y
Most of the water we use comes from boreholes in the area.
Nowdays, if the holes get a little low, we just pipe some in from north yorkshire to make up the difference :)
Hence, we vary rarely get problems :y
We have had about the same amount of rain as lincolnshire (who also use boreholes) but the yellowbellys don't have the pipe network :)
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yellowbellys ? OK googled it :)
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yellowbellys ? OK googled it :)
I'll expect abuse later ;D ;D
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yellowbellys ? OK googled it :)
I'll expect abuse later ;D ;D
Not from here Steve, but then I'm not from round here anyway ::)
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Unless I am missreading this map, it would appear the north east of England has more of a water problem than the south east. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Please feel free to point out where I am wrong.
OK.
It's a map of Daily Soil Moisture Anomalies. Not a map of reservoir availability.
HTH
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Unless I am missreading this map, it would appear the north east of England has more of a water problem than the south east. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Please feel free to point out where I am wrong.
OK.
It's a map of Daily Soil Moisture Anomalies. Not a map of reservoir availability.
HTH
OK my dim brain can just about understand that. (I think ;D) But does it mean there is, or is not a water shortage ? I think what I am trying to say is if the water content in the soil is the same in the south east as it was, then the problem is the fault of the water companies not planning for the amount of properties built and local councils for allowing all this building without the infrastructure.
Not tring to be funny or argumentitive, just trying to understand it better.
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Unless I am missreading this map, it would appear the north east of England has more of a water problem than the south east. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Please feel free to point out where I am wrong.
OK.
It's a map of Daily Soil Moisture Anomalies. Not a map of reservoir availability.
HTH
OK my dim brain can just about understand that. (I think ;D) But does it mean there is, or is not a water shortage ? I think what I am trying to say is if the water content in the soil is the same in the south east as it was, then the problem is the fault of the water companies not planning for the amount of properties built and local councils for allowing all this building without the infrastructure.
Not tring to be funny or argumentitive, just trying to understand it better.
Well, there is no water shortage in the north east although we don't get a huge amount of rain (nothing like the amount that the north west or Scotland gets). Kielder Water was built to provide the large amounts of water that the steel and manufacturing industries were predicted to need in the north east in the Sixties. However, what they didn't predict was the massive collapse of those industries so we have been left with a water resource that is way beyond what we need. So, in this case the water companies and local authorities got it right by getting it wrong!
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Kinell, there must be something in the water today :-X :-X :-X :D
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Bigger Thames barrage and fill the London basin. :o :o :o
Fantastic idea :y
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Well , it could only happen here ...... ::)
The five roads in and out of town have had large coloured and expensive looking permanent roadside signs erected pleading that we " Don't be a waster " and that we should conserve water .
We're fed from two Lochs back up in the mountains behind and are all very wary when it rains for long periods , which it fookin' does , as we expect to replicate the scene in towering inferno when they over flow. To overcome this difficulty the man that owns , yes owns the lochs , dumps the excess into the drain and ditch network that runs from there down to here and then down into the bay I've got two 18" dia concrete drains submerged down each side of my land and they can struggle after two or three days of rain and that wee niaff playing with his valves .
My front lawn is like a quagmire 'cause the ground just can't absorb anymore and it's on a steep gradient ...!
A plague of genital warts on the gobshite that signed off that order for the roadsigns and Danny Bob with his run off valves..... >:(
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Don't have a problem here, get our water from the sheep sh*****s ;) :D
Plenty for everyone here, mainly because it never stops bloody raining :-\
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Don't have a problem here, get our water from the sheep sh*****s ;) :D
Plenty for everyone here, mainly because it never stops bloody raining :-\
well said jon we dont want rain had to much >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Well , it could only happen here ...... ::)
The five roads in and out of town have had large coloured and expensive looking permanent roadside signs erected pleading that we " Don't be a waster " and that we should conserve water .
We're fed from two Lochs back up in the mountains behind and are all very wary when it rains for long periods , which it fookin' does , as we expect to replicate the scene in towering inferno when they over flow. To overcome this difficulty the man that owns , yes owns the lochs , dumps the excess into the drain and ditch network that runs from there down to here and then down into the bay I've got two 18" dia concrete drains submerged down each side of my land and they can struggle after two or three days of rain and that wee niaff playing with his valves .
My front lawn is like a quagmire 'cause the ground just can't absorb anymore and it's on a steep gradient ...!
A plague of genital warts on the gobshite that signed off that order for the roadsigns and Danny Bob with his run off valves..... >:(
break me ragged.Telling folk in Kerry they need to save water is as sensible as telling arabs they need to save sand. Beyond ludicrous. ::) ;D
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Bigger Thames barrage and fill the London basin. :o :o :o
Fantastic idea :y
??? ;D
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I wound use my bath water to wash my car but its to dirty to use once i get out of it but then i only bath every 6 months ;D ;D see i already save water. :D ;D :D ;D
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Having mused over building my own self-sustainable house in the tropics (have a guess where!) I have stumbled upon various methods of reusing grey water (from sinks/showers/washing machines) in the garden. If you use the correct soap this grey water is full of nitrates and perfect for not just watering but also fertilising the garden, or in my intended case the vegetable patch.
To send all this water from our homes back down the drains and then use fresh drinking water full of chloramines (rather orrid stuff used instead of chlorine) to water the roses is just criminal. A very simple and inexpensive change in house design in the building phase would help make our homes more future proof and put less strain on the drainage system thus reducing waterboard costs which could go into shareholder dividends reducing customer bills.
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My plumber moved house a while back and last time I saw him was looking at installing a water reclamation 'plant' in his new (very old) house for grey water & rain water..
Apparently the rules and regulations (planning, building regs, rules on how much water you're allowed to store as a percentage of what falls on your property, what you can use it for) were considerably non trivial to the point he was starting to wonder if it was worth the trouble..