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Title: recession/ times change.
Post by: tidla on 17 March 2012, 21:43:15
Viewing the recently posted piccies of a 2007 meet got me thinking of how times have changed over these recent times financially and otherwise.

Work situation for most being the main change, your experiences??
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 March 2012, 21:48:30
food prices , especially veggies and fruits increased more than double and weekly shopping costs really considerable amount.. so we start to check refrigerator before shopping and make an initial list..
or we loose control ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: doz on 17 March 2012, 21:49:28
Work's still steady I'm one of the lucky ones. My mates business is struggerling, another friend lost his job but did manage to find another without to much difficulty (pretty specialist field) and friends Dad got taken for a lot of money when a firm went under without paying him. He may now lose his pub as he's seen takings drop as well. So yep it's pretty pants out there if you want a job
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Nickbat on 17 March 2012, 23:27:19
Funnily enough, I was clearing out my email inbox yesterday. I keep business ones for years, but need to have a clear out occasionally.

I came across this:

This is your petrol prices update from www.petrolprices.com.  Your current
settings are to receive e-mail updates .


5 cheapest stations within 2 miles of "XXX XX" for Unleaded...
---------------------------------------------
Station : Shell Mill Hill, Barnet Way, Mill Hill, London
Brand   : Shell
Distance: 0.74 miles
Price   : 87.9p
Updated : 11-03-2007

 :o :o :o :o >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 18 March 2012, 08:18:57
main change for me is work its been very slow and the prices are well down . in honesty earning now what i did 15 years ago but things seem to be picking up. I do think the building trades have been breaked over the years with so many regulations, H&S issues and gen standard of apprenterships etc

The foriegn workers have not helped sure credit to them they work hard for little money but uk residents can not work for that sort of money the bills would not get paid

fortunatley i have a good name and some regular clients that have kept me going but seen so many good trades men leave the industry

anyway if i say anymore it will be an Albs party political braodcast ;D ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 March 2012, 08:25:27
Viewing the recently posted piccies of a 2007 meet got me thinking of how times have changed over these recent times financially and otherwise.

Work situation for most being the main change, your experiences??

Couldn't agree more. At the time of the 2007 meet I was earning a very good wage, I was married and had no worries. Now i'm on the bones of my arse and divorced  ;D ;D but the only way is up as they say, just wish it would hurry up ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: belldarr on 18 March 2012, 09:22:46
My monthly fuel bill is nearly as much as my mortgage!

Darren,
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: albitz on 18 March 2012, 10:16:15
Was earning almost double what Im earning now.Now earning the same as I was earning 20 years ago,with a very noticeable fuel bill for commuting,which I never had before.
On the bright side - I used to feel phsically sick when I got up to go to work in the morning.Now I dont mind it at all. Just feel sick when I feel brave enough to look at the bank balance. ::) ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 18 March 2012, 10:21:20
Was earning almost double what Im earning now.Now earning the same as I was earning 20 years ago,with a very noticeable fuel bill for commuting,which I never had before.
On the bright side - I used to feel phsically sick when I got up to go to work in the morning.Now I dont mind it at all. Just feel sick when I feel brave enough to look at the bank balance. ::) ;D

or the mirror :-* :-*
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: albitz on 18 March 2012, 10:22:55
Far cough fat bloke. :P ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: tunnie on 18 March 2012, 10:23:49
Was a student at Uni then, now doing rather well in a well known TV broadcasting company, learnt to snowboard, ride a motorbike, travelled to some fantastic destinations abroad, bought a flat in London, met MrsT!

So quite a few changes  ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 18 March 2012, 10:24:32
Far cough fat bloke. :P ;D

pmsl you do make i laugh lover :-*
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Rods2 on 18 March 2012, 16:48:54
main change for me is work its been very slow and the prices are well down . in honesty earning now what i did 15 years ago but things seem to be picking up. I do think the building trades have been breaked over the years with so many regulations, H&S issues and gen standard of apprenterships etc

The foriegn workers have not helped sure credit to them they work hard for little money but uk residents can not work for that sort of money the bills would not get paid

fortunatley i have a good name and some regular clients that have kept me going but seen so many good trades men leave the industry

anyway if i say anymore it will be an Albs party political braodcast ;D ;D

Good luck when this kicks in:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/9150760/Health-and-safety-inspectors-to-charge-256-an-hour-to-tell-companies-what-theyre-doing-wrong.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/9150760/Health-and-safety-inspectors-to-charge-256-an-hour-to-tell-companies-what-theyre-doing-wrong.html)
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 March 2012, 16:53:32
Was earning almost double what Im earning now.Now earning the same as I was earning 20 years ago,with a very noticeable fuel bill for commuting,which I never had before.
On the bright side - I used to feel phsically sick when I got up to go to work in the morning.Now I dont mind it at all. Just feel sick when I feel brave enough to look at the bank balance. ::) ;D

not different here.. fuel costs not that huge (I dont drive miggy everyday) but weekly shopping costs doubled open a big hole in budget.. I must eat less ;D 
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Rods2 on 18 March 2012, 17:10:31
Been a big struggle since the recession, but things are very slowly improving.

This country is facing ever increasing cheap competition from abroad with software development as code can be developed and uploaded to a server from anywhere in the world. More and more companies are realizing they can save development costs by doing this.

There are several major global project / developer matching websites, where going rates are $10-20 per hour, with money being safely held in escrow accounts, until the customer accepts the milestone or the completed software. These sites are dominated by Indian, South American and East European developers as they can afford to work for these hourly rates.

In 20 years time I think UK software development will be as common as UK shipyards building merchant vessels. There will still be small niche suppliers like their are for boats, but that's all.

This is also reflected that the UK's global percentage of computer games developed here, has been and is continuing to decline. The main countries benefiting from this are France and Canada due to large tax breaks and new studios (many owned or part owned by the big publishers) in Eastern Europe, South America and some Asian countries.
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: mantahatch on 18 March 2012, 17:11:39
Recession never really hit us untill this year. I put it down to have existing contracts in place and the companies that use our "service" had allready budgeted for the expense. That said we have had so few customers this year that it is hurting, I think we have had 6 customers this year and that is only one day testing. We usually do 3 day or 5 day testing.
Thankfully we have reasnble bank balance, but they will not keep us open forever with so little work. Such a shame, our facility opened in the 1920s in Farnborough. Moved to Southampton in 1980. is one of only about 3 facilties in the country open to use by paying customers. All the rest are owned by companies for there own use.

We have also trained some of the brightest Engineers in the country, sorry can't name names.
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 18 March 2012, 18:42:54
Oddly I've flat out this year, first day off yesterday since before Christmas, & that includes Christmas day!

So much so, that I'm getting VAT reg next month. Being self-employed, sole trader has it's advantages, as I can react quicker to jobs & situations, and find myself doing things I never thought I would.

Paul Weller, De La Soul & Orbital this week at Maida Vale studios, lighting for radio...... ::)

Still not the way it was when Maggie was in power, but it's looking good from my point of view
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 March 2012, 18:43:08
Been a big struggle since the recession, but things are very slowly improving.

This country is facing ever increasing cheap competition from abroad with software development as code can be developed and uploaded to a server from anywhere in the world. More and more companies are realizing they can save development costs by doing this.

There are several major global project / developer matching websites, where going rates are $10-20 per hour, with money being safely held in escrow accounts, until the customer accepts the milestone or the completed software. These sites are dominated by Indian, South American and East European developers as they can afford to work for these hourly rates.

In 20 years time I think UK software development will be as common as UK shipyards building merchant vessels. There will still be small niche suppliers like their are for boats, but that's all.

This is also reflected that the UK's global percentage of computer games developed here, has been and is continuing to decline. The main countries benefiting from this are France and Canada due to large tax breaks and new studios (many owned or part owned by the big publishers) in Eastern Europe, South America and some Asian countries.

 :o   
 
even if you sell tomatos in the street you can earn more..   >:(
 
 
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Varche on 18 March 2012, 19:07:14
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

 
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 March 2012, 19:26:11
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

 
interesting.. farmers here also earn less but food prices is higher several times.. guess who put the difference in pocket >:(
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Rods2 on 18 March 2012, 20:37:28
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

Only sex left to tax, so £10 a poke, Government assuming all adults aged 18 to 80 get it at least an average 3 times a week. £30 x 52 x 40m = £62bn, which should fund Iran War, MP's pay and pension rise and extra allowances, reduce the budget deficit. All those that claim a rebate for less sexual activity, will have their picture, name and address displayed on a public website and local notice boards.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: tidla on 18 March 2012, 20:56:51
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

Only sex left to tax, so £10 a poke, Government assuming all adults aged 18 to 80 get it at least an average 3 times a week. £30 x 52 x 40m = £62bn, which should fund Iran War, MP's pay and pension rise and extra allowances, reduce the budget deficit. All those that claim a rebate for less sexual activity, will have their picture, name and address displayed on a public website and local notice boards.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

b0llox.

there goes my low profile.
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 19 March 2012, 08:14:20
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

Only sex left to tax, so £10 a poke, Government assuming all adults aged 18 to 80 get it at least an average 3 times a week. £30 x 52 x 40m = £62bn, which should fund Iran War, MP's pay and pension rise and extra allowances, reduce the budget deficit. All those that claim a rebate for less sexual activity, will have their picture, name and address displayed on a public website and local notice boards.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

b0llox.

there goes my low profile.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 March 2012, 08:29:29
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

Only sex left to tax, so £10 a poke, Government assuming all adults aged 18 to 80 get it at least an average 3 times a week. £30 x 52 x 40m = £62bn, which should fund Iran War, MP's pay and pension rise and extra allowances, reduce the budget deficit. All those that claim a rebate for less sexual activity, will have their picture, name and address displayed on a public website and local notice boards.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

Iran war..  they would need to tax for more imo.. and global economical consequences will be far more worse than the previous crisis.. and I expect the war soon.. I hope I'm wrong :-\
 
besides we are anyway in a continous crisis as global food resources are limited and we increasing in population like rabbits..food soon will be very very expensive..
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 19 March 2012, 14:48:41
Certainly noticed it worsen in Spain.

Food inflation has been like Britain. We get some of our income from farming and farm gate prices are 34% less now than five years ago. Bit like Milk is kept low by the supermarkets in the UK. Of course fertiliser, bug spray and diesel have all rocketed.
Unemployment is 23% instead of 5%.
Exchange rate is worse by 18%

I can't wait to see what swinging measures our (Conservative) government impose on us on 30th March in order to meet Merkosy's deficit targets. Tax on people whose name begins with V? Foreigners tax? Tax on people who drive Omegas (double if badged Vauxhall..............) ;D ;D :'( :'(

Only sex left to tax, so £10 a poke, Government assuming all adults aged 18 to 80 get it at least an average 3 times a week. £30 x 52 x 40m = £62bn, which should fund Iran War, MP's pay and pension rise and extra allowances, reduce the budget deficit. All those that claim a rebate for less sexual activity, will have their picture, name and address displayed on a public website and local notice boards.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

 :o :o ;D ;D 3 times a year :'( :'(
Title: Re: recession/ times change.
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 19 March 2012, 14:49:25
maybe i am due a rebate  ;D ;D