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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jimbob on 20 March 2012, 20:00:10
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UPVC -v- Composite......Discuss ;D
Our old wooden door is knackered, along with 2 old wood windows, and needs replacing.
Composite is coming in about £250 more than UPVC, and seems to offer a nicer look (and colour range), and heavier weight.
Any good reasons to go for one over the other? Dont know a lot about them.
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
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UPVC -v- Composite......Discuss ;D
Our old wooden door is knackered, along with 2 old wood windows, and needs replacing.
Composite is coming in about £250 more than UPVC, and seems to offer a nicer look (and colour range), and heavier weight.
Any good reasons to go for one over the other? Dont know a lot about them.
My opinion as a PVCu fitter. Composite, greater longevity, more secure, UV resistant as opposed to the reinforced panels in PVCu which discolour over time. As Rob says, at least a 5-point lock mech + an anti-drill/pick/snap eurocylinder as standard
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UPVC -v- Composite......Discuss ;D
Our old wooden door is knackered, along with 2 old wood windows, and needs replacing.
Composite is coming in about £250 more than UPVC, and seems to offer a nicer look (and colour range), and heavier weight.
Any good reasons to go for one over the other? Dont know a lot about them.
My opinion as a PVCu fitter. Composite, greater longevity, more secure, UV resistant as opposed to the reinforced panels in PVCu which discolour over time. As Rob says, at least a 5-point lock mech + an anti-drill/pick/snap eurocylinder as standard
Good point Rob
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UPVC -v- Composite......Discuss ;D
Our old wooden door is knackered, along with 2 old wood windows, and needs replacing.
Composite is coming in about £250 more than UPVC, and seems to offer a nicer look (and colour range), and heavier weight.
Any good reasons to go for one over the other? Dont know a lot about them.
My opinion as a PVCu fitter. Composite, greater longevity, more secure, UV resistant as opposed to the reinforced panels in PVCu which discolour over time. As Rob says, at least a 5-point lock mech + an anti-drill/pick/snap eurocylinder as standard
Good point Rob
White is the main culprit, but even with the foil "woodgrain" (rosewood, mahogany, light oak) over time the panel tends to split especially if they have raised mouldings
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
as long as that..? seen a locksmith open a door with a cheap euro cylinder in 5 seconds. He asked me time it! no damage to door at all
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
as long as that..? seen a locksmith open a door in 5 seconds. He asked me time it!
Yeah. But you live in essex.
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
as long as that..? seen a locksmith open a door in 5 seconds. He asked me time it!
Yeah. But you live in essex.
Of course - It's the only way LMAO
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
Not talkin about cortinas, talkin about door locks :P
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Composite here! :y
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
Not talkin about cortinas, talkin about door locks :P
http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html :P :P :P
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
Not talkin about cortinas, talkin about door locks :P
http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html (http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html) :P :P :P
Got mine, thank you. :y
£35 a piece.
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Faced the same issue pre-xmas and went with composite - and happy with it. The door feels more solid, looks better and has less chance of fading. With different colours available it reallys adds something to the front of the house. I appreciate it costs more but if you can then go for it as it gives the face of your property a nicer look which even subconciously will add value to your house in the eye of any potential future buyers. Just haggle them harder on the price!
15 years ago you were faced with either upvc or wood as alternatives. Nowadays i believe most people do go with the composite option going by houses near me.
Ask yourself if you went for upvc, every time you looked at it would you wish you went for the composite option.
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PVC .. no way..
steel internals and wooden look outside.. oh and paint it using car paint and laquer ;D (white is the only color which can resist sun for long time) ..
where is my hvlp.. I need to paint our red door ;D (err.. I mean brown.. red was before :-\ )
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
Not talkin about cortinas, talkin about door locks :P
http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html :P :P :P
10/10 - £34 aint too bad when you think that with the best UPVC door in the world the lock is always the weakpoint.
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PVC .. no way..
steel internals and wooden look outside.. oh and paint it using car paint and laquer ;D (white is the only color which can resist sun for long time) ..
where is my hvlp.. I need to paint our red door ;D
:D
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UPVC here, front back and side! Just as long as you have at least a 5point locking system and a good euro cylinder it's style that sets them apart (and and bit of build quality).
Rob
Avocet abs is the best on the market at the moment.. The standard euro cylinders can be broken in 30 secs and after that it doesn't matter how good your locking system is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jl5moO4u98)
Mark 3 ;)
Not talkin about cortinas, talkin about door locks :P
http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html (http://www.woodsecurity.co.uk/European-Profile-Cylinders/Avocet-ABS-MK3-Snap-Secure-Euro-Cylinders/prod_287.html) :P :P :P
Got mine, thank you. :y
£35 a piece.
Not a bad price :D
(http://www.visionmotorservices.co.uk/website/cridge/1970-75Cars/data/images1/ford_cortina_mk3_1970_&_1976.jpg)
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PVC .. no way..
steel internals and wooden look outside.. oh and paint it using car paint and laquer ;D (white is the only color which can resist sun for long time) ..
where is my hvlp.. I need to paint our red door ;D
:D
metallic car paints are the strongest.. except epoxy.. no other paint can resist our sun :-\
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I've a similar lock on my front door ...... Garrison ........ that's purposely weakened to snap off. If only I could find the code card to have another key cut. :(
My MkIII was in that colour ............ Roman Bronze ;) ;)
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PVC .. no way..
steel internals and wooden look outside.. oh and paint it using car paint and laquer ;D (white is the only color which can resist sun for long time) ..
where is my hvlp.. I need to paint our red door ;D
:D
metallic car paints are the strongest.. except epoxy.. no other paint can resist our sun :-\
Rub it in >:(
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Let me know when you need your back door doing :-* ;D ;D ;D
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Let me know when you need your back door doing :-* ;D ;D ;D
Push your stool chair in for you Sir?? ;D
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Let me know when you need your back door doing :-* ;D ;D ;D
'Oh my', please keep these offers to PM's - this is a family forum
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we've gone way off topic here - sorry for my part in this :-X
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We had a spate of burglaries round here where, if the door is not locked from the inside, they just reach in through the letter box and turn door handle internally.
I guess the answer would be to have the letter box low down, not next to the door handle in the middle, fit a knob not a handle inside, and or, lock the door from the inside. ESP at night.
They where after car keys. Which our neighbours kept in a draw in the porch. Right next to the fornt door. £1500 ins claim for new car lock set.
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Cheers all, some handy advice there.
Pete, not to sure on you smashing my back door in ;)
Liking those ABS locks :y
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Cheers all, some handy advice there.
Pete, not to sure on you smashing my back door in ;)
Liking those ABS locks :y
So there's a chance then ;D
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I've a similar lock on my front door ...... Garrison ........ that's purposely weakened to snap off. If only I could find the code card to have another key cut. :(
My MkIII was in that colour ............ Roman Bronze ;) ;)
Sadly, the common method for getting in is to 'bump' the locks now (I have tried this and although it takes me a few goes, even I can do it!), takes about 1-2 seconds and causes no obvious damage.
The locks we have incorporate the fracture line but they also have two of the tumblers effectively 'damped' to stop bumping.
Worth looking out for. :y
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I have a good friend who owns a large window company around here. His advice is always composite.
They do a nice line form a company called Dales :y
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Weekest point seems to be the locks going by posts here.
So why wouldn't I stick with my heavy wooden door with 5 lever mortice lock and London bar in the door frame?
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Weekest point seems to be the locks going by posts here.
So why wouldn't I stick with my heavy wooden door with 5 lever mortice lock and London bar in the door frame?
If its not broke, dont fix it :y
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Weekest point seems to be the locks going by posts here.
So why wouldn't I stick with my heavy wooden door with 5 lever mortice lock and London bar in the door frame?
If its not broke, dont fix it :y
Yeah, that's what I said to the Mrs. Only thing is it needs painting, so it swells up in winter and sticks at the base, she then has trouble getting out with just the small latch on the Yale lock to pull on.
This prompted her to get quotes for a new door, I'll be removing, plaining the base, painting and re hanging it before winter. :)