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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 26 March 2012, 00:50:39
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On my car. 452 this time.
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:o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X :-X
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Decent enough tyre if you ask me Chris. Got them fitted to my Mondeo and can lose most things joining the London bound A40 from the M25...lovely 270 Deg bend!
Don't mention the F word to TB though...he twitches a bit ;D
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Pretty good tyres run them for a few years now.........try and keep the pressures on the high side as they can wear the shoulders quite badly..
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:o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X :-X
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<checks> Nope. Not 1st April yet. :-\
Someone feel his forehead and make sure he's not "running hot". :o
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And I bet you haven't used it much :P
Seriously, it would be good to compare to the 912, although the 452 I've driven on an Omega were shite, but the shagged suspension might have made it worse... ...or better ;D
(Tunnie, your old heap was on 452s for a while?)
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Kin ell Chris you fitted the "F" word to your own car :D :D :D :o
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I should, for those considering new tyres, point out that I don't believe Mr chrisgixer is in any way endorsing the use of Falkens on Omegas.... ....so if members are in the market for new tyres, walk on past the Falkens ;D
I also happen to know that these Falkens cost a lot of money :o :o
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Pretty good tyre considering the budget prices. I use them a lot. I've even got them fitted to my LC and find them grippy enough. They seem to hook up better than the Pirelli's which were fitted. However on the last MOT on the wife's car the tester mention the rear tyres were out of ovality. I did some research and found a lot of tyres seem to be suffering from this and the Falken's were no different. It appears they don't like the battering they take on our British potholed roads. So if you want them to last try and avoid the holes. Easier said than done round here.
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Pretty good tyre considering the budget prices.
Whilst they may work better on smaller cars, appallingly bad on Omega. Grip is OK, but no stability, to the point of being dangerous. Nice and quiet though.
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I can't see why the Omega is any different to any Carlton I've had them fitted to before. What issues have you had with Stability? As I said I've had much more expensive so called Premium tyres come up short against the Falkens.
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Pretty good tyre considering the budget prices. I use them a lot. I've even got them fitted to my LC and find them grippy enough. They seem to hook up better than the Pirelli's which were fitted. However on the last MOT on the wife's car the tester mention the rear tyres were out of ovality. I did some research and found a lot of tyres seem to be suffering from this and the Falken's were no different. It appears they don't like the battering they take on our British potholed roads. So if you want them to last try and avoid the holes. Easier said than done round here.
Not just potholes . . .those blasted speed bumps are a bigger menace >:(
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I can't see why the Omega is any different to any Carlton I've had them fitted to before. What issues have you had with Stability? As I said I've had much more expensive so called Premium tyres come up short against the Falkens.
I've knowingly driven 2 with Falkens, one on 452 with shagged suspension, so unfair to comment, but impossible to keep straight. Other was on 912 with perfect suspension - I drove less than a mile down a country lane before refusing to drive further, I couldn't keep it between the verge and the white line. I know these tyres were returned to Dunlop's labs for testing, no fault found. I drove the same car on the same day on the same lane on my tyres, perfect, tight as a ducks backside.
Other local owners who swear by Falkens on their Golfs and TVRs, agree they are poor on the Omega.
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How strange. Never had a issue on the Carltons in the past. As the Omega is basically a more modern version of that same platform I wonder what VX changed to make them so tyre twitchy. I must admit my current Elite tends to tram line a little but I put that down to having ridicules sized boots in the first place.
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I should, for those considering new tyres, point out that I don't believe Mr chrisgixer is in any way endorsing the use of Falkens on Omegas.... ....so if members are in the market for new tyres, walk on past the Falkens ;D
I also happen to know that these Falkens cost a lot of money :o :o
They didn't come free with some "Buy fake Rolex here" wheels, did they? :-X
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I should, for those considering new tyres, point out that I don't believe Mr chrisgixer is in any way endorsing the use of Falkens on Omegas.... ....so if members are in the market for new tyres, walk on past the Falkens ;D
I also happen to know that these Falkens cost a lot of money :o :o
They didn't come free with some "Buy fake Rolex here" wheels, did they? :-X
They did seem to be on some "Bling" wheels :-X :-X
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(snigger...)
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::) first page of this thread is good for an hour English lesson .. nice examples there :y
sorry Chris ;D
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I should, for those considering new tyres, point out that I don't believe Mr chrisgixer is in any way endorsing the use of Falkens on Omegas.... ....so if members are in the market for new tyres, walk on past the Falkens ;D
I also happen to know that these Falkens cost a lot of money :o :o
They didn't come free with some "Buy fake Rolex here" wheels, did they? :-X
They did seem to be on some "Bling" wheels :-X :-X
More "bling" than the SportStars? :o
I've got a tin opener for those wheel arches if you need it, Chris. :y
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;D ok, enough teasing.
They where on wheels that I wanted off another car. Didn't know what tyres it had prior to viewing the vehicle, just wanted the wheels off it. Plus potentially some other goodies.
You can imagine my reaction when I saw what tyres it had fitted. FFS!
Anyway I've fitted them to mine to make sure the wheels are round and there's no issues prior to refurbing. But this means enduring appalling tram lining. I didn't tell Mrs CG. But even she noticed the car moving around badly from the passenger seat.
"what's wrong with the car" she said.
To be fair the Falkens are worn obviously. About half way down on 3, 1 is about 2 mill off the wear bars. There is some odd wear on the outside edge of one from the previous car which has also got failed bushes all round, naturally.
What are they like on my car? Exceptional.
Exceptionally quiet.
Exceptionally comfy ride.
....and EXCEPTIONALLY BAD for tramlining. Appalling.
Although not as bad as the 912's I had with Elite suspension. These do at least hold a line if the surface is good with little correction needed.
Grip level is poor compared to sc3, which are also louder, with firmer ride.
Should add, they had stood for a while as the car had little use, tread blocks had lipped edges from previous car set up. So where loud initially, with a buzz on the brakes. This has decreased considerably with use.
They are still dangerous on bumpy B roads though IMO. Lordy. Crossing tram lined worn Tarmac turning left, means turning the wheel to almost two o'clock in the opposite direction to keep the car on line. Almost 90degree correction on the steering wheel. Incredible.
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Had 235/35/19's 452's fitted new when I had the work done in 2009. :y 8)
As I've mentioned before, nice and quiet and grippy. :)
You do, as Mr Gixer says, have to fight to stay in a straight line. :o My Mig liked to go left at an ever increasing velocity. Not nice.....
This gets worse as you drive 'em more and I had several near misses on the A12 into the Blackwall Tunnel (and the last 3 miles is like driving on the moon - crater after crater). :-\ :( >:( :o
Not no how.
Not no way.
ever again.
.............and I don't suppose the newer 453 is any different...................
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They have a new model? Now if they could keep the quietness and ride quality but make them go straight as well...NO NO nevermind.
There are many qualitys to consider in a tyre, but surely going straight isn't too hard for tyre designers to sort out....?
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As I said I don't see what they changed on the Omega. My LC and Gsi Carlton don't suffer from any stability issues. I have a Alhambra with them fitted to. My Dad's old trooper had Falkens. No issues what so ever. So it's just trying to work out why the Omega is sensitive to these.
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As I said I don't see what they changed on the Omega. My LC and Gsi Carlton don't suffer from any stability issues. I have a Alhambra with them fitted to. My Dad's old trooper had Falkens. No issues what so ever. So it's just trying to work out why the Omega is sensitive to these.
Excessively soft side walls. Paper thin, having seen them off the wheel.
Tram lining is said to be caused by too firm a side wall. True enough. However at the other end of the scale, these seem so soft as to behave like a flat tyre.
Don't bother trying to work it out. Simple answer, don't fit them to this car.
....I do find it infuriating. Not simply because they tram line so badly, but because they have other very favourable characteristics that I miss. Quiet and comfy ride. The car is almost silent to drive with barely any road noise. Suspension feels so refined. They are cheap too.
No grip and don't last though. :(
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If you want noisy the Bridgestones on the Ibiza are deafening. Bloody hard to.
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If you want noisy the Bridgestones on the Ibiza are deafening. Bloody hard to.
Indeed they are. Potenza 001 on mine when I got it. Thought they where shite tbh.
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If you want noisy the Bridgestones on the Ibiza are deafening. Bloody hard to.
Indeed they are. Potenza 001 on mine when I got it. Thought they where shite tbh.
potenza 001 is no shit, nothing can corner like them even your sc3.. ;D
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Maybe they are good for out right grip but there also noisy and very stiff in the side walls.
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If you want noisy the Bridgestones on the Ibiza are deafening. Bloody hard to.
Indeed they are. Potenza 001 on mine when I got it. Thought they where shite tbh.
potenza 001 is no shit, nothing can corner like them even your sc3.. ;D
Cem you do talk some 'dangle berries' some times. ;D
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And I bet you haven't used it much :P
Seriously, it would be good to compare to the 912, although the 452 I've driven on an Omega were shite, but the shagged suspension might have made it worse... ...or better ;D
(Tunnie, your old heap was on 452s for a while?)
452's on rear 912's on front, still there, 35k later :)
On 2.2, brilliant tyres. 912 had longer life, but they were on front not back. If/when the 2.2 is pressed into service again, I'd fit them again :)
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And I bet you haven't used it much :P
Seriously, it would be good to compare to the 912, although the 452 I've driven on an Omega were shite, but the shagged suspension might have made it worse... ...or better ;D
(Tunnie, your old heap was on 452s for a while?)
452's on rear 912's on front, still there, 35k later :)
On 2.2, brilliant tyres. 912 had longer life, but they were on front not back. If/when the 2.2 is pressed into service again, I'd fit them again :)
;D they do seem manageable at lower speeds, and less... Enthusiastic driving in corners may help them wear with a flater profile.
Absolute worst combination would be Elite suspension, press on driving style, 912....which last longer, there by allowing body roll and hence camber deflection on the front to wear the tyre more on the edges. The longer the tyre is on there the more rounded the tyre profile becomes and the more it wants to roll off high points and undulations in the road. It's like it deflects around bumps, rather than riding over them.
I'd be interested to see what construction techniques tyre manufacturers use to achieve thier various tyre characteristics.
Needless to say, high speed runs, on my private test track, are extremely hairy with these tyres fitted. A condition that appeared instantly once fitted, and no doubt will vanish again once sc3 or any other tyre, goes back on.
On the other hand Mr Daisy probably won't notice the instability, and appreciate the quitness and comfort alot more. ;) ( as said I do miss certain aspects of Falkens personally, just dont tell anyone I said so ;D. )
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Must get you to come round and drive mine with the Neuton's on some time, Chris .. you might change your opinion on Falkens then ;D Either that or Falkens are really, really, REALLY bad..
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Must get you to come round and drive mine with the Neuton's on some time, Chris .. you might change your opinion on Falkens then ;D Either that or Falkens are really, really, REALLY bad..
Sounds like i got off lightly with not getting the Neutons. Seem to remember we were both looking at these at the same time but i didn't realise they fitted them round the M25 till after i had Kuhmos fitted. Are they really that bad?
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I wouldn't say they're really that bad as such .. they wander more than the winter tyres did, but the winter tyres are significantly narrower and higher profile (195/60 vs. 235/45) so it's not a great comparison really - I suspect the extra width is always going to make them more prone to following the ruts in the road.
The car could almost certainly use an alignment, too :-[
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If you want noisy the Bridgestones on the Ibiza are deafening. Bloody hard to.
Indeed they are. Potenza 001 on mine when I got it. Thought they where shite tbh.
potenza 001 is no shit, nothing can corner like them even your sc3.. ;D
Having driven chrisgixer's car on Potenzas, I can confirm they were quite poor. Can't remember how worn they were though, but happy to let go with little provocation in the dry.