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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:12:33

Title: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:12:33
I suppose this is mainly aimed at TB but....

Is there any way I can get the Nokia kit working? Even if I have to unplug the telematics as I need to be able to call out from my iPhone now instead of the NCDC :-\
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:21:02
yes
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:22:24
yes

Back to one words answers? ::) ::)

Just unplug the telematics or fit the mixer? ???
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:26:46
yes

Back to one words answers? ::) ::)

Just unplug the telematics or fit the mixer? ???
Mixer is the better option IMHO. But ask gayboy for his opinion, as he is running Telematics & CK-7W now.

Mute line missing from Telematics loom, so you'll need to add bits.

If you want to lose the Telematics, ideally want to depair it all first.
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:28:20
I should add that gayPhone voice dialling is worse than appalling. If the man from crApple was still alive, I'd ram the device up his jacksie. Sideways.
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:31:58
yes

Back to one words answers? ::) ::)

Just unplug the telematics or fit the mixer? ???
Mixer is the better option IMHO. But ask gayboy for his opinion, as he is running Telematics & CK-7W now.

Mute line missing from Telematics loom, so you'll need to add bits.

If you want to lose the Telematics, ideally want to depair it all first.

As I know your memory is shite I'll remind you... Nokia kit is all fitted (using modified TM loom) but sound level was wrong. Don't want to los the telematics at all but need the ability to call out from the gayphone ASAP. Just wondered if disconnecting the telematics would sort it short term until we manage to meet up and you fit the mixer you've been promising me for quite a while ;)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:35:48
yes

Back to one words answers? ::) ::)

Just unplug the telematics or fit the mixer? ???
Mixer is the better option IMHO. But ask gayboy for his opinion, as he is running Telematics & CK-7W now.

Mute line missing from Telematics loom, so you'll need to add bits.

If you want to lose the Telematics, ideally want to depair it all first.

As I know your memory is shite I'll remind you... Nokia kit is all fitted (using modified TM loom) but sound level was wrong. Don't want to los the telematics at all but need the ability to call out from the gayphone ASAP. Just wondered if disconnecting the telematics would sort it short term until we manage to meet up and you fit the mixer you've been promising me for quite a while ;)
Stick gayPhone SIM in TM ::)

Volume levels are broadly compatible, but the impedence is mismatched between TM and Nokia, causing quiet audio from TM (possibly Nokia as well - would have to think about that sober). So if the other device isn't there, should be OK to feed the audio down.

The screen, HU and CDC isn't going to be over the moon if the TM disappears though.
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:37:02
I have the MkI mixer here out of gayboy's car. Yours if you want it?  It doesn't work though ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:39:09
Stick gayPhone SIM in TM ::)

Firstly, taking the Micro Sim out of the gayphone every time I get in the car isn't really a viable option ::)

Secondly, it's not a compatible network ::)

Volume levels are broadly compatible, but the impedence is mismatched between TM and Nokia, causing quiet audio from TM (possibly Nokia as well - would have to think about that sober). So if the other device isn't there, should be OK to feed the audio down.

The screen, HU and CDC isn't going to be over the moon if the TM disappears though.

So not a simple solution then ::)

Is there much involved in fitting the mixer? Or are they still not ready?
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:42:36
*cough* reread the thread *cough*
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:46:42
*cough* reread the thread *cough*

FFS... You're outside of a few bottles in preparation for MK tonight and I'm too tired so let's try again in plain, simple English for simple little me ::)

Unplug Telematics and it should work? Or just the Traffic Master unit (which doesn't work properly anyway ::))

IIRC the Nokia and Telematics were both ultra quiet when it was first tried :-\
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:50:54
In terms for those from Suffolk - and I've spent all day with peeps from Ipswich ::) - leave the Telematics plugged in, but disconnect the audio from the Telamatics, and feed the Nokia in there.  Obviously, if a call comes in on Telematics, you won't hear other party.
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 20:53:18
In terms for those from Suffolk - and I've spent all day with peeps from Ipswich ::) - leave the Telematics plugged in, but disconnect the audio from the Telamatics, and feed the Nokia in there.  Obviously, if a call comes in on Telematics, you won't hear other party.

Nope... Too complex for me to manage to understand tonight. I might try getting more sense from you later this week when I'm not so knackered ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 April 2012, 20:54:58
In terms for those from Suffolk - and I've spent all day with peeps from Ipswich ::) - leave the Telematics plugged in, but disconnect the audio from the Telamatics, and feed the Nokia in there.  Obviously, if a call comes in on Telematics, you won't hear other party.

Nope... Too complex for me to manage to understand tonight. I might try getting more sense from you later this week when I'm not so knackered ::)
Oh dear ;D

I'm off to Mario now, although I think I'm already too far gone ;D
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 21:00:18
In terms for those from Suffolk - and I've spent all day with peeps from Ipswich ::) - leave the Telematics plugged in, but disconnect the audio from the Telamatics, and feed the Nokia in there.  Obviously, if a call comes in on Telematics, you won't hear other party.

Nope... Too complex for me to manage to understand tonight. I might try getting more sense from you later this week when I'm not so knackered ::)
Oh dear ;D

I'm off to Mario now, although I think I'm already too far gone ;D

Told you I was tired :-[ ::)

Enjoy Mario... I'll try to make sense later, although I think I might be best making do until I get the mixer in ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: feeutfo on 17 April 2012, 22:12:25
For info, the system/mixer works perfectly. Only issue is some popping and squeaking mixed with a whine matching engine rpm on audio in the car during calls. It's only audible in the car. Callers report no issues, and is not intrusive.

Voice dialling works very well on iphone4 in conjunction with ck7w. Provided the callers name is spoken as entered in the phone book.
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 April 2012, 22:20:32
Voice dialling works very well on iphone4 in conjunction with ck7w. Provided the callers name is spoken as entered in the phone book.
Worked ok in my van too (while stationary) ::)

So, it all works well and I should get on with it :-X ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 April 2012, 16:39:45
Read this again and I still don't really understand :-[

I don't actually want to lose the telematics as it's far superior in quality to the nokia kit so I don't really want to do any permanent adjustments ;)

I don't suppose there's any chance of getting another mixer sorted and a little help with getting it in? ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2012, 20:50:55
Read this again and I still don't really understand :-[

I don't actually want to lose the telematics as it's far superior in quality to the nokia kit so I don't really want to do any permanent adjustments ;)

I don't suppose there's any chance of getting another mixer sorted and a little help with getting it in? ::)
What you like with soldering iron. Its only about a dozen components. Due to MkI not working well, I binned the PCBs I had made up, so gayboys is on vero
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 April 2012, 21:45:07
What you like with soldering iron. Its only about a dozen components. Due to MkI not working well, I binned the PCBs I had made up, so gayboys is on vero

You know the answer to that ;) I can manage :y :y

It's the physical connections into the car that concern me a little :-[ So I really would appreciate the moral support if nothing else (a bit like you and LPG fitting) ::)

I'll PM later and get a shopping list :y
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 20 April 2012, 21:29:03
Nokia -----
               |
                ---------
                            Mixer    ------------   Trafficmaster   --------- NCDC
                ---------
               |
Telematics-
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 20 April 2012, 21:29:35
With a 12v and 0v power feed to mixer as well
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 April 2012, 22:21:12
At least you're feeding me the info slowly... Still struggling to wrap my head around it though :-[
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2012, 09:42:00
Not sure how better to explain  :-[

Thinking about it, did you bugger around with your wiring? Did yours come with telematics from factory
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 April 2012, 10:39:57
Not sure how better to explain  :-[

Thinking about it, did you bugger around with your wiring? Did yours come with telematics from factory
Came with telematics. I fitted TM and CK7W (although the jury is still out about whether the TM loom was correct, even though it's working fine now). Need to get the details for the mixer and talk nicely to someone for some moral support ::)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 April 2012, 10:43:16
Incidentally, it's not your explanation that's at fault (AFAICT), but my understanding and confidence ;)
Title: Re: Nokia CK7W and Telematics
Post by: TheBoy on 25 April 2012, 20:23:44
I think I missed the undertones in this thread, sorry, my mind is elsewhere  :-[

Of course, pop it up, we can do the mods if my back allows. You'll need about a fivers worth of bits from Craplins (pair of fets, some resistors and caps), and a mute wire from trafficmaster.