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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: doz on 22 April 2012, 21:59:56
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Is it possible to fit a full size spare? wheel size 17" and 234/45/17 tyre. Noticed the other day it's a space saver think it's 195. Never been happy using them
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Is it possible to fit a full size spare? wheel size 17" and 234/45/17 tyre. Noticed the other day it's a space saver think it's 195. Never been happy using them
Only 15 and 16's, 17's have space savers, wont fit.
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Is it possible to fit a full size spare? wheel size 17" and 234/45/17 tyre. Noticed the other day it's a space saver think it's 195. Never been happy using them
Only 15 and 16's, 17's have space savers, wont fit.
Spare for 16's is a 205 on a 15" dia rim
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Is it possible to fit a full size spare? wheel size 17" and 234/45/17 tyre. Noticed the other day it's a space saver think it's 195. Never been happy using them
Only 15 and 16's, 17's have space savers, wont fit.
Spare for 16's is a 205 on a 15" dia rim
Hmm, I check then as fairly sure one of my explod has full size 16 as a spare.
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Both our mfl Elites on 225x16 rims had 205x15 spares - believe reason was Omega originally spec'd on 15" rims and when 16" & 17" started to be used not enough room for a full time spare.
Handbook on both cars quotes spare as 205x15", and emegency use no more than 50mph!!
HTH
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16'' and 17'' will fit in a facelift spare wheel area, but the cover will not fit.
The 16''s fit well, the 17'' is a squeeze. My Elite has a full size spare and fits ok, but as mentioned without cover.
Full size spare in an estate - 17'' in facelift estate pushes up the boot floor, std 15'' seems all it'll take.
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16'' and 17'' will fit in a facelift spare wheel area, but the cover will not fit.
The 16''s fit well, the 17'' is a squeeze. My Elite has a full size spare and fits ok, but as mentioned without cover.
Full size spare in an estate - 17'' in facelift estate pushes up the boot floor, std 15'' seems all it'll take.
Agreed - remember putting inflated full size 16" (225s) into spare well on mfl Elite saloon - fitted ok (a bit tight getting it in) but cover would not fit.
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16" with 225/55/16 tyre fits in an estate but raises the floor up an inch at most :y I'd expect a 17" wheel to push it up another half inch given that they're wider wheels :-\will be able to confirm once I've swapped the wheels over :y Have a full size spare on mine and with the boot liner you hardly notice the flap sitting ajar :y
There is a padded ring on the underside of the boot floor to support the floor against the tyre, removing this might give an inch more space :-\ another of those things that I've been meaning to do for ages. ::)
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Spare size varies, possibly age related, either 195 or 205.
No room for a 235 in saloon wheel 'well'. 225 doesn't properly fit.
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
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Another thing to consider is that when you started getting up to tyre widths used on Omegas, tyres will either have an assymetric or directional tyre pattern. Assymetic tyres are ok to use as spares, but if you have a directional tyre as a spare, you will only be able to use it on one side of the car.
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Another thing to consider is that when you started getting up to tyre widths used on Omegas, tyres will either have an assymetric or directional tyre pattern. Assymetic tyres are ok to use as spares, but if you have a directional tyre as a spare, you will only be able to use it on one side of the car.
A very good point :y Also a very good reason why original spare is not directional.
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
I've used my spare three times this year :y
Having a full size spare enables me to continue working, carrying passengers in safety with no restrictions on tyre speed, which in turn means no impact on journey times :y
Let's say you've got a cab booked to take you to the airport but you've only left the bare minimum of time to get there, ie 20mins for a 20 mile journey. I turn up on time and you're not quite ready, suddenly I've got 15 mins to drive 20 miles. You then get in the car and the first thing that I say is: "Good morning, just to let you know that I had a puncture last night and have a space saver spare fitted. It's perfectly safe but I can only drive at a maximum of 50mph".
How pisst off will you be and how stupid do I then look :-\
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
I've used my spare three times this year :y
Having a full size spare enables me to continue working, carrying passengers in safety with no restrictions on tyre speed, which in turn means no impact on journey times :y
Let's say you've got a cab booked to take you to the airport but you've only left the bare minimum of time to get there, ie 20mins for a 20 mile journey. I turn up on time and you're not quite ready, suddenly I've got 15 mins to drive 20 miles. You then get in the car and the first thing that I say is: "Good morning, just to let you know that I had a puncture last night and have a space saver spare fitted. It's perfectly safe but I can only drive at a maximum of 50mph".
How pisst off will you be and how stupid do I then look :-\
But there is no limitation whatsoever for an genuine Omega spare wheel; you still can drive it up to 210 km/h as it is the very same tyre as was fitted in the factory to all basic spec Omegas. Speed limitations only apply to cars with "life-saver" spare wheels and it is required that they have stickers on them telling the limits.
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
I've used my spare three times this year :y
Having a full size spare enables me to continue working, carrying passengers in safety with no restrictions on tyre speed, which in turn means no impact on journey times :y
Let's say you've got a cab booked to take you to the airport but you've only left the bare minimum of time to get there, ie 20mins for a 20 mile journey. I turn up on time and you're not quite ready, suddenly I've got 15 mins to drive 20 miles. You then get in the car and the first thing that I say is: "Good morning, just to let you know that I had a puncture last night and have a space saver spare fitted. It's perfectly safe but I can only drive at a maximum of 50mph".
How pisst off will you be and how stupid do I then look :-\
But there is no limitation whatsoever for an genuine Omega spare wheel; you still can drive it up to 210 km/h as it is the very same tyre as was fitted in the factory to all basic spec Omegas. Speed limitations only apply to cars with "life-saver" spare wheels and it is required that they have stickers on them telling the limits.
This is where it gets interesting... I 100% agree that the tyres used on Omega stare wheels are normal tyres as fitted to basic spec Omega's and have the correct speed and load ratings to allow them to be used for normal driving. However, the wheels do have stickers on them warning to travel at a maximum of 50mph. This is also stated in the owners manual.
I can only conclude that the restrictions are there because of the imbalance of tyre performance across an axle with the spare fitted (ie. 235 on one side and 195 on the other). :-\
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
I've used my spare three times this year :y
Having a full size spare enables me to continue working, carrying passengers in safety with no restrictions on tyre speed, which in turn means no impact on journey times :y
Let's say you've got a cab booked to take you to the airport but you've only left the bare minimum of time to get there, ie 20mins for a 20 mile journey. I turn up on time and you're not quite ready, suddenly I've got 15 mins to drive 20 miles. You then get in the car and the first thing that I say is: "Good morning, just to let you know that I had a puncture last night and have a space saver spare fitted. It's perfectly safe but I can only drive at a maximum of 50mph".
How pisst off will you be and how stupid do I then look :-\
But there is no limitation whatsoever for an genuine Omega spare wheel; you still can drive it up to 210 km/h as it is the very same tyre as was fitted in the factory to all basic spec Omegas. Speed limitations only apply to cars with "life-saver" spare wheels and it is required that they have stickers on them telling the limits.
This is where it gets interesting... I 100% agree that the tyres used on Omega stare wheels are normal tyres as fitted to basic spec Omega's and have the correct speed and load ratings to allow them to be used for normal driving. However, the wheels do have stickers on them warning to travel at a maximum of 50mph. This is also stated in the owners manual.
I can only conclude that the restrictions are there because of the imbalance of tyre performance across an axle with the spare fitted (ie. 235 on one side and 195 on the other). :-\
Yes and no. Manual says limitation ONLY in case original tyre size is 235/45/17 in which case it is recommended to use it only as temporary. However, the wheel it self is the same so no tyre-related limitations, only due huge difference in width and rim size :y
edit: as I have never seen live an Omega from factory with 17" wheels I can not tell if they have some kind of a special spare wheel, my post is only based on 15" and 16" factory fit wheel cars and owners manual.
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Makes me wonder why to put in a full size spare and make any modifications to the car... How often you need a spare? Once in a lifetime maybe? And in any case, the spare one, even if same size with other wheels, will not be equally worn compared to all other three remaining wheels under the car so you will be going to replace it (or two tyres) anyway :y
I've used my spare three times this year :y
Having a full size spare enables me to continue working, carrying passengers in safety with no restrictions on tyre speed, which in turn means no impact on journey times :y
Let's say you've got a cab booked to take you to the airport but you've only left the bare minimum of time to get there, ie 20mins for a 20 mile journey. I turn up on time and you're not quite ready, suddenly I've got 15 mins to drive 20 miles. You then get in the car and the first thing that I say is: "Good morning, just to let you know that I had a puncture last night and have a space saver spare fitted. It's perfectly safe but I can only drive at a maximum of 50mph".
How pisst off will you be and how stupid do I then look :-\
But there is no limitation whatsoever for an genuine Omega spare wheel; you still can drive it up to 210 km/h as it is the very same tyre as was fitted in the factory to all basic spec Omegas. Speed limitations only apply to cars with "life-saver" spare wheels and it is required that they have stickers on them telling the limits.
This is where it gets interesting... I 100% agree that the tyres used on Omega stare wheels are normal tyres as fitted to basic spec Omega's and have the correct speed and load ratings to allow them to be used for normal driving. However, the wheels do have stickers on them warning to travel at a maximum of 50mph. This is also stated in the owners manual.
I can only conclude that the restrictions are there because of the imbalance of tyre performance across an axle with the spare fitted (ie. 235 on one side and 195 on the other). :-\
Yes and no. Manual says limitation ONLY in case original tyre size is 235/45/17 in which case it is recommended to use it only as temporary. However, the wheel it self is the same so no tyre-related limitations, only due huge difference in width and rim size :y
edit: as I have never seen live an Omega from factory with 17" wheels I can not tell if they have some kind of a special spare wheel, my post is only based on 15" and 16" factory fit wheel cars and owners manual.
Actually you are right. All of the spare wheels I have that have the warning labels on, have come from elite or MV6 spec cars with factory 17" wheels. The spare I got from a 2.2 CD with factory 16" wheels had an identical spare, except no labels. :y
For reference, my own car is a 2003 Elite estate with factory 17" wheels, and the spare is a 15" steel with a 195 width tyre. :y
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Twiglet - I think all facelifts come with the sticker in the UK. Prefacelifts didn't, including my 17" factory fitted MV6.
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Twiglet - I think all facelifts come with the sticker in the UK. Prefacelifts didn't, including my 17" factory fitted MV6.
I guess it's certainly possible that a previous owner removed the stickers from the 2.2 spare...
Others may be able to check theirs an confirm... :-\
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Twiglet - I think all facelifts come with the sticker in the UK. Prefacelifts didn't, including my 17" factory fitted MV6.
I guess it's certainly possible that a previous owner removed the stickers from the 2.2 spare...
Others may be able to check theirs an confirm... :-\
Just as I intend to do :-X :-X Especially as I'm thinking of getting another 3 and using them for winter tyres ::)
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Twiglet - I think all facelifts come with the sticker in the UK. Prefacelifts didn't, including my 17" factory fitted MV6.
I guess it's certainly possible that a previous owner removed the stickers from the 2.2 spare...
Others may be able to check theirs an confirm... :-\
Just as I intend to do :-X :-X Especially as I'm thinking of getting another 3 and using them for winter tyres ::)
I'll probably have a set of 4 available shortly. ;)
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Twiglet - I think all facelifts come with the sticker in the UK. Prefacelifts didn't, including my 17" factory fitted MV6.
I guess it's certainly possible that a previous owner removed the stickers from the 2.2 spare...
Others may be able to check theirs an confirm... :-\
Just as I intend to do :-X :-X Especially as I'm thinking of getting another 3 and using them for winter tyres ::)
I'll probably have a set of 4 available shortly. ;)
No doubt we'll be chatting soon anyway ;)