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Title: tyre pressure
Post by: raywilb on 24 April 2012, 20:50:26
i dont know why it is, but the front n/s tyre always needs a few lbs of air when i do a weekly check. i.m not kerbing it, the steerings ok, & iv,e even rotated wheels . but its always that wheel . Ideas anybody  :-\
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: TheBoy on 24 April 2012, 22:00:03
Puncture, valve, or leaking rim.

Take off, put in bath/water butt, leak should be noticible
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: YZ250 on 24 April 2012, 22:18:09
i dont know why it is, but the front n/s tyre always needs a few lbs of air when i do a weekly check. i.m not kerbing it, the steerings ok, & iv,e even rotated wheels . but its always that wheel . Ideas anybody  :-\

Same here. I've just had four new tyres fitted and the same wheel still loses a few lbs of air so in my case it must be the rim leaking as TB said as the valve and tyre was discarded. Going in this week and hoping the tyre place can put some sealer around the rim.  :-\  Bit of a mystery as the alloys not damaged.
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: TheBoy on 24 April 2012, 22:21:39
i dont know why it is, but the front n/s tyre always needs a few lbs of air when i do a weekly check. i.m not kerbing it, the steerings ok, & iv,e even rotated wheels . but its always that wheel . Ideas anybody  :-\

Same here. I've just had four new tyres fitted and the same wheel still loses a few lbs of air so in my case it must be the rim leaking as TB said as the valve and tyre was discarded. Going in this week and hoping the tyre place can put some sealer around the rim.  :-\  Bit of a mystery as the alloys not damaged.
Some fastfits don't clean up the rim properly, relying too much on the sealant.
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 April 2012, 22:25:30
Might be worth pulling the tyre off, cleaning the rim with some fine grade paper and lacquaring the wheel before you put the tyre back on

Only way imho  :y
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: Entwood on 24 April 2012, 23:01:09
If the front n/s always leaks even after tyre rotation .... just what has that to do with rims/valves/etc ??  :)

If I read the OP correctly ........

My question  to you is .. do you always check the wheels in the same manner ?? Possibly starting with the F/N/S every time, and always using the same garage ??

If so it "might" be that the garage gauge is a tad "sticky" until exercised a couple of times and that is the problem ??

I cannot see how the F/N/S can otherwise be affected on its own...

:(
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: Lazydocker on 24 April 2012, 23:37:09
I read it like that too Nige... Confusing :-\

I can't see any other explanation other than the one you've just described :-\
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: YZ250 on 24 April 2012, 23:48:09
I read it like that too Nige... Confusing :-\

I can't see any other explanation other than the one you've just described :-\

Didn't read it like that until you mentioned it.  :y  OP does appear to say that. At least in my case I know which wheel it is.  ;D
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: raywilb on 25 April 2012, 00:24:43
If the front n/s always leaks even after tyre rotation .... just what has that to do with rims/valves/etc ??  :)

If I read the OP correctly ........

My question  to you is .. do you always check the wheels in the same manner ?? Possibly starting with the F/N/S every time, and always using the same garage ??

If so it "might" be that the garage gauge is a tad "sticky" until exercised a couple of times and that is the problem ??

I cannot see how the F/N/S can otherwise be affected on its own...

:(
i have a digital guage plus its always the same n/s tyre  not only on rotation but when iv,e actually changed wheels for another set i have . baffling me
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: aaronjb on 25 April 2012, 00:29:19
Did you use the same tyres, or a whole new set of wheels & tyres? Have you tried rotating this set just in case you have two that leak and managed to get them on the same corner (unlikely but not that improbable)?

If it's neither of those things then it's got to be aliens. Or someone is letting your tyre down. Or aliens are letting your tyre down ;)
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: raywilb on 25 April 2012, 17:36:23
Did you use the same tyres, or a whole new set of wheels & tyres? Have you tried rotating this set just in case you have two that leak and managed to get them on the same corner (unlikely but not that improbable)?

If it's neither of those things then it's got to be aliens. Or someone is letting your tyre down. Or aliens are letting your tyre down ;)
it must be aliens. in 9yrs , two sets of wheels & 3 sets of tyres its always the front n/s (on a wkly basis) that loses up to 6lbs of pressure. reiterate , not kerbing .& steerings ok. :-\
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: feeutfo on 27 April 2012, 08:46:32
The only thing I've seen similar to that is on my car, relative to where it's parked up against a garge door at the front and a wall to the left front wheel. After an hour of sunlight the drivers side wheels are warmer, and the pressure goes up .5 to 1 psi. relative to the ambient temp.

Where as the one in the corner by the wall gets no sun, doesn't warm up, and stays stone cold. Some times 2 or 3 psi lower than when tested the day before.

Try nitrogen instead of air...?

Can't explain the range of difference your seeing though. 6psi is too much for that Ime
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: feeutfo on 27 April 2012, 08:55:26
Although adding the differences might add up to 6psi.

Is it seasonal? Ie less loss in summer with warmer night temps. ?
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: Entwood on 27 April 2012, 09:05:16
The only thing I've seen similar to that is on my car, relative to where it's parked up against a garge door at the front and a wall to the left front wheel. After an hour of sunlight the drivers side wheels are warmer, and the pressure goes up .5 to 1 psi. relative to the ambient temp.

Where as the one in the corner by the wall gets no sun, doesn't warm up, and stays stone cold. Some times 2 or 3 psi lower than when tested the day before.

Try nitrogen instead of air...?

Can't explain the range of difference your seeing though. 6psi is too much for that Ime

I get what you are saying ... but ..... if it was temp related .. when he inflated the "cold" low one it would be overpressure when warm, then drop back down to "correct" once it cooled down  ???

If it is ALWAYS low and gets topped up regularly it must be actually losing air .. and  I see no logical reason ... otherwise it would be the size and pressure of a zeppelin by now !!!

puzzled of wiltshire ......

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: tigers_gonads on 27 April 2012, 09:19:50
Or the most simple on of all, some bugger is playing games and letting air out  :-\
Title: Re: tyre pressure
Post by: feeutfo on 27 April 2012, 09:20:56
Depends when measuring perhaps? If always on a cold morning having made them all the same the night before...?

I tend, out of laziness to check mine after I get home. A no no, as they should be cold, but I'm looking for oddities. Being aware the pressure will rise with use, but if one is lower, I'll adjust and keep an eye on it after checking for screws and nails.

But for the op, maybe check psi after a run, then when cold, then again after a run and see what psi you have.

But I agree with Entwood, if your constantly adding pressure somethings wrong. Although depends how often your checking...?