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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: I_want_an_Omega on 30 April 2012, 16:24:32
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Hi,
I've done this as a separate subject to keep things clean.
I have made contact with the German supplier of these and ordered one. The cost was 60 Euros or about £50.
My intention is to do a how to using this kit - which will have instructions supplied in English.
Watch this space. ::)
Rob
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Excellent stuff Rob, look forward to it.
I'm still amazed I had what seems like a good idea........must have been drunk sober awake ::) ::)
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Well, I've ordered one ..........
They will provide English fitting instructions.
They will also provide a significantly discounted price if we place a bulk order - but let's take it one step at a time :y
Cheers - Rob
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Any news yet rob?
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Any news yet rob?
Yes, sorry - totally overlooked it. I got one of these and fitted it, it works well and does exactly what it should. It gives a choice or 3 or 5 flashes.
Delivery from Germany took weeks - and it arrived a couple of weeks back.
The installation took me a lot longer than it should have done due to a combination of a) some ambiguity in their translation from German, b) GM's choice to use the same colour wire for two different functions in the indicator circuitry.
I could do another one in a fraction of the time though.
Installation needs 5 connections:
1) Ignition switched 12v
2) Ground
3) Indicator left to bulbs
4) Indicator right to bulbs
5) Indicator common
The easiest way of getting 3,4,5 is tapping into the three wires going to the indicator stalk and stripping insulation/soldering/taping up again. DONT USE SCOTCHBLOKS.
I mounted the unit in the void behind the lightswitch and accessible with the panel end cover off.
The German supplier suggests connecting the module straight to the +12v ignition switched line - with no fuse. I don't think that's a good Idea, so added a small fuse in line just for safety's sake.
In terms of pricing, well, I ended up paying about 60 Euros for mine - with shipping being a big chunk.
They have given me the following prices for volume:
26 Eur / pc when order 50 pcs and more*
28 Eur / ps when order 40 pcs and more*
30 Eur / pc when order 30 pcs and more*
32 Eur / pc when order 20 pcs and more*
34 Eur / pc when order 10 pcs and more*
35 Eur / pc when order up to 5 pcs
This is for a single order - with delivery to one point in the UK.
If we were to do a group buy (which I'd be happy to co-ordinate) then there would need to be an extra charge for onwards postage to OOF members. I'd suggest about £3 to cover registered postage & a small jiffy bag.
The ambiguity in the instructions is easily fixed as I'd correct their guide. Electrical ability is not demanding - but the 5 connections need to be well made so soldering skill is necessary.
So, with 50 people the price would be (eg) 26 Euros plus £3, per member - plus a fusefolder.
Let me now what you think.
Regards - Rob
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Nicely done rob, many thanks for your time & effort :y :y
I'm in, 100%, what ever it comes to!
And scotchblocks? Never in a million years, solder & heatshrink is the only way!
I'd like to add if anyone round my way can't solder, I'm happy to volunteer my services for biscuits ;)
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I'd be up for one too Rob. :y :y
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Have we got any pictures of them working
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Have we got any pictures of them working
What's there to watch? ???
Flick indicator ..... on off on off on (off on off on) ;D ;D ;D
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You could take 2 pics, one on, on off, and post them 3 or 5 times :-\
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Actually I did take some pics, but need to (find the camera :-\), transfer and then upload.
There really isn't anything to see TBH. Basically as soon as the unit senses that R or L has started it then takes over for 3 or 5 flashes.
I've been pondering a bit and would do a 100% test on each unit before dispatch. Sounds difficult, but it really only needs an indicator stalk, flasher unit and some wiring/bulbs connected to a bench power supply and you are away.
I'll dig the pictures out and see if any more interest is generated over the coming days. 2 so far,a fair few to go ;D
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Sounds like a usefull bit of kit and due to my inter-gallatic mileag on motorways count me in for 1 aswell.
Sounds like a plan too.... Lampynoiseboy...your only just over the water from me and happy to bring biscuits as my soldering skills are dubious to say the least...Where abouts in Essex ?
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I'm in Southend-on-Mud, for my sins!
Be a pleasure mate :y
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Sounds like a plan then :y....walk along the longest pier/drink at the Curzon/and a blat back along the A127...memories from the "old days". ;D
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Assuming you mean the Kursaal, I wouldn't bother, and most of the 127 has 70 then 50 mph average cameras.
All a bit sh*te really!
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So, did we get any more than 2 of us wanting these?
Sorry for the delay, been a little busy!
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My indicators work when i change lanes heres the how to.
. Mirror indicator on change lane indicator off simples :)
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My indicators work when i change lanes heres the how to.
. Mirror indicator on change lane indicator off simples :)
Drive a car with them fitted & you'll miss them when you get behind the wheel of your Omega ;) ;)
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Agreed - Vectra has them Omega does not and its a pain!
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I spend all day in a Ford Transit.
When I get in the Omega, I find myself flicking the indicator stalk and calling myself a flucktard for not realising it has an inferior system to the Transit! ;D
I'd do this upgrade in a heartbeat!
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I spend all day in a Ford Transit.
When I get in the Omega, I find myself flicking the indicator stalk and calling myself a flucktard for not realising it has an inferior system to the Transit! ;D
I'd do this upgrade in a heartbeat!
So that's definitely 2, any more?
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Just us then! ;D
Shame. Anyone who has driven a vehicle with this feature and spends time on Motorways would know it is a very good addition to have. :y
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Just us then! ;D
Shame. Anyone who has driven a vehicle with this feature and spends time on Motorways would know it is a very good addition to have. :y
I'd wondered why so many people were bothering with a derisory 2 flash 'indication'. It seems more of a 'yes I am cutting you up' signal rather than anything useful. I drive over 50,000 miles annually, so I do spend a lot of time on Motorways.
It is contrary to what the Highway Code says about signalling. Yes, I have checked my copy - part 85 is what you should be reading first.
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Just us then! ;D
Shame. Anyone who has driven a vehicle with this feature and spends time on Motorways would know it is a very good addition to have. :y
I'd wondered why so many people were bothering with a derisory 2 flash 'indication'. It seems more of a 'yes I am cutting you up' signal rather than anything useful. I drive over 50,000 miles annually, so I do spend a lot of time on Motorways.
It is contrary to what the Highway Code says about signalling. Yes, I have checked my copy - part 85 is what you should be reading first.
I would argue that at 70mph, any more than 3 is un-necessary, surely by that time you are in the lane you were headed for.
I'm curious for a quote from the code, surely if it was that wrong they wouldn't be fitted & the feature wouldn't be called a "lane change indicator"?
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It is contrary to what the Highway Code says about signalling. Yes, I have checked my copy - part 85 is what you should be reading first.
So ..... are you going to quote it? or do we have to Google it ::) ::)
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As intelligent, thoughtful responsible drivers I expected most of us to have a copy to hand, so I wouldn't have to type this out:
Signals warn and inform other road users of your intended actions.
You should
give clear signals in plenty of time, having checked it's not misleading to do so at that time
use them, if necessary, before changing course or direction, stopping or moving off
cancel them after use.
So, that's signal before and during the maneuver, cancelling when it's completed. Even a lane change at 70mph will require several flashes to achieve that.
In fact, it's worth indicating well before you want to change lane; you'll often find the vehicle behind will also move over to make your maneuver easier/quicker/safer.
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As intelligent, thoughtful responsible drivers I expected most of us to have a copy to hand, so I wouldn't have to type this out:
Signals warn and inform other road users of your intended actions.
You should
give clear signals in plenty of time, having checked it's not misleading to do so at that time
use them, if necessary, before changing course or direction, stopping or moving off
cancel them after use.
So, that's signal before and during the maneuver, cancelling when it's completed. Even a lane change at 70mph will require several flashes to achieve that.
In fact, it's worth indicating well before you want to change lane; you'll often find the vehicle behind will also move over to make your maneuver easier/quicker/safer.
I'm sorry, mine's in the car ::)
I was, however, always taught you should never attempt a manoeuver that could cause another road user to have to swerve, slow down or change lanes. I also leave my motorway manoeuvres until far enough ahead that my indicaters are more a courtesy than a neccessity so as not to impact on their driving- quite polite I feel