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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: SMD on 01 May 2012, 18:21:12
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I dont mean to open a can of worms but my question is regarding the use of grease. I dont intend to stop brake squeal as the have the uber expensive pads with shims. Just something to use on the back of the pads and the edges of the pads/calipers. Something like this ok?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_203941_langId_-1_categoryId_165705
I also need a breaker, google shows some cheap Sealey ones of ebay:
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=breaker+bar&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=QtH&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvns&bav=cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=707&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10912811630394533034&sa=X&ei=IxugT6GxGsqw8gOvqKSwAQ&ved=0CGcQ8wIwATge
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=breaker+bar&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=GtH&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvns&bav=cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=707&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9046846403128050818&sa=X&ei=ERugT8LnF87c8gOx1IiMAQ&ved=0CHwQ8wIwBzgK
Are any of these recommended?
Thanks
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yep, copper grease.
you could no doubt pick them both up from hafrauds.
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Thanks :)
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Can recomend the halfrauds breaker bar...mine has had some abuse.....sorry spirited use and survived very well.
Think of 4ft tube on bar with large sparky swinging on it to get Land rover hub nuts undone!
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To add....
Worth reading my thread about it in addition to the guide.... all of my questions got answered by the wonderful folk on here :y
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I looked at the Halfrauds breaker but its out of budget.
Steve I read your thread last night, so my question is can I use this on the caliper slider pins?
(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/Zaf_Yousef/IMAG0228.jpg)
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What is it mate? I can't see pics at work for some reason :(
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Personally, I never use "spray" grease ... several reasons...
It goes everywhere
It is very "runny" to allow it to spray
You can't just put a "blob" on as the carrier gas spreads it
Impossible to use in a grease gun (yes, I still have one and use it occasionally !!)
IMHO it is far better to by a small "tub" of grease and apply it either with a small paint brush or your fingers.
Just my thoughts .. nowt else .. :)
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Personally, I never use "spray" grease ... several reasons...
It goes everywhere
It is very "runny" to allow it to spray
You can't just put a "blob" on as the carrier gas spreads it
Impossible to use in a grease gun (yes, I still have one and use it occasionally !!)
IMHO it is far better to by a small "tub" of grease and apply it either with a small paint brush or your fingers.
Just my thoughts .. nowt else .. :)
+1 :y
Halfrauds sell two types. one's castrol and the one i have is another make, cant remember the name.
you dont want the spray as you need to keep it away from the pad material and just lubricate the places where the pad will move on the calliper mount :)
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.... ps as for your original question, also use the stuff out the tub for the slide pins... you want to ''paint it on'' and make sure they can move freely when you replace them ;)
i found a big build up in the plastic boot they sit in. this comes off. i got the crap out of this too cos it was sticking and just lubricated the pin.
hope that makes sense.
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If the grease is likely to come into contact with any rubber parts then you should use Red Rubber Grease (e.g. slider pins) or (what I may well have used in the past, sshh, don't tell anyone) at a push Castrol LM High Temperature grease which is a Lithium high temperature grease.
Petroleum based grease can or will cause the rubber to swell & split.
For pad/calliper contact areas I use copperslip as although it's not a grease, it's also not likely to melt and run all over your disc..
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Eric the car guy uses silicone paste on the slide pins and anti-seize paste for the pad lubrication.
i suppose theres loads of different variants as long as it deals with high temperature.
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Silicone paste would work too - the main thing is, as you say, it's high temperature and not petroleum based :y
Red rubber grease is easier to find over here, though :)
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Thanks for the replies. I bought this about 4 years ago so thought might as well use it if I can. I understand its not the easiest to apply but I thought I might get around it by spraying a load of it in a small container or in the lid and then applying it with my fingers :D. I read that you shouldnt use copper grease on slider pins hence not wanting to buy copper grease for metal to metal contact points and seperate grease for sliders.
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Thanks for the replies. I bought this about 4 years ago so thought might as well use it if I can. I understand its not the easiest to apply but I could I may get around it by spraying a load of it in a small container or in the lid. I read that you shouldnt use copper grease on slider pins hence not wanting to buy copper grease for metal to metal contact points and seperate grease for sliders.
sounds good if youve got it already.
like E mentioned though it shouldnt be runny so if it is then i'd pick up a tub. t'was only £3.99 iirc ;)
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Personally, I never use "spray" grease ... several reasons...
It goes everywhere
It is very "runny" to allow it to spray
You can't just put a "blob" on as the carrier gas spreads it
Impossible to use in a grease gun (yes, I still have one and use it occasionally !!)
IMHO it is far better to by a small "tub" of grease and apply it either with a small paint brush or your fingers.
Just my thoughts .. nowt else .. :)
I agree, though the lithium spray grease is very good at lub'ing a Smart's clutch actuator (http://www.theroadster.net/trc/modules/articles/article.php?id=83) ;) ;)
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aaron, is this the stuff that can be used for sliders?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18g-Castrol-Red-Rubber-Grease-Brake-Caliper-Fluid-Handy-MINI-TIN-/130679593752?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item1e6d1c5b18
Can i use this stuff on back of pads and edges of calipers?
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I agree, though the lithium spray grease is very good at lub'ing a Smart's clutch actuator (http://www.theroadster.net/trc/modules/articles/article.php?id=83) ;) ;)
Funnily enough, that's why I have a can too.. not for a Smart but for the MR2. Squeak-a squeak-a.
aaron, is this the stuff that can be used for sliders?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18g-Castrol-Red-Rubber-Grease-Brake-Caliper-Fluid-Handy-MINI-TIN-/130679593752?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item1e6d1c5b18
Can i use this stuff on back of pads and edges of calipers?
Perfect stuff for anywhere there is rubber (so under the rubber boot of the slider, yep) - though you'd probably be just fine using a slightly more all purpose grease like this: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_172551_langId_-1_categoryId_165705 (yep, Halfords is cheaper than fleabay!)
I'll let someone who has serviced more Omega brakes than me comment on which is really best - on other cars I have, ahem, just used LM grease on the sliders :-[ :-[ Whether I've been lucky in the boots not swelling up, I don't know.
Don't use it on the pad back or caliper edges though, pick up some copperslip: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_203941_langId_-1_categoryId_165705
A little tiny 20g tube like that lasted me years, you don't need much ;)
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Thanks. I will buy a tube of copper grease and a small tub of castrol grease.