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Title: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: P6UL K on 01 May 2012, 22:22:29
Evening all,

Before i take the plunge and order up my suspension i'm wondering if those of you would kindly post up a photo of either side of your car and a brief detail of how much you have lowered your car by and what with i.e. Macpheson Struts or Coilovers, this goes for estates and saloons.

I own an estate and i'm in a quandary about how much to lower my car by.. 20, 30, 40 or even 50mm?? I don't want to go to low, but it does need lowering a bit and the shocks SO need replacing, their leaking and have definately seen better days!

Heres how my car stands currently:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2011-01-20004.jpg)

Shes now on MV6 17in wheels  8)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: blackviper90210 on 01 May 2012, 22:28:10
Mine has been lowered prior to me getting her. I believe by 20mm, but will have to check.  If the weather stays dry long enough, I'll take some pictures tomorrow and post them :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Sam Burton on 01 May 2012, 22:31:14
wish the back end of my motor was that low at standard :-\ ???
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: blackviper90210 on 01 May 2012, 22:33:12
wish the back end of my motor was that low at standard :-\ ???

Stick my ex wife in the back, that'll lower it down! (May scrape the undercarriage though) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: P6UL K on 01 May 2012, 22:33:49
Mine has been lowered prior to me getting her. I believe by 20mm, but will have to check.  If the weather stays dry long enough, I'll take some pictures tomorrow and post them :y

Thank you  :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: P6UL K on 01 May 2012, 22:36:07
wish the back end of my motor was that low at standard :-\ ???

Mines only that low due to the overweight Officers that had abused it for years and 160k odd miles, its 'still' on the original, broken self-levelling suspension!
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: pauls on 01 May 2012, 23:02:38
Hi i have just had mine done by daz. b4 shocks all round steinmetz springs(sorry if spelt wrong)
its dropped it by 30mm. looks good and handles a lot better
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: pauls on 01 May 2012, 23:08:22
If you look at the hampshire meet page 4 you will see my green one :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: blackviper90210 on 02 May 2012, 19:59:51
As promised, some pictures of my mig that is lowered....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30008029/Mig%20Lowered/IMAG1123.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30008029/Mig%20Lowered/IMAG1124.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30008029/Mig%20Lowered/IMAG1125.jpg)

I can't remember by how much this is lowered by, still looking, but iirc it has B4 shocks and Irmscher springs.

Now I'm not worldly experienced with cars and migs, but I must say the handling is superb compared to my previous Elite's. It goes round corners on rails without the wallowing you get with the standard Elite set up, but it's not harsh!

HTH's :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: barclay03 on 02 May 2012, 20:52:56
MV6 with coilovers on.. not sure how much its lowered by, i jus did it til looked nice. The handling is changed immensely, it now corners without feeling like the wing mirrors will touch the ground :lol: I can throw it into tight corners at a fair speed and it keeps traction...previously it would be all over the place.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/26825_404646593409_502738409_5060178_584463_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/26825_406358548409_502738409_5106726_5674674_n.jpg)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/26825_406358558409_502738409_5106727_4202761_n.jpg)

As you can see the front tyres just sit nicely in the arches. The rear was lower but had to lift it slightly because i was catching on my driveway. Theres 25mm wheel spacers fitted aswell (rears werent on in those pics)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: tgm147 on 02 May 2012, 21:46:40
Barclay03 your car looks brilliant.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx22/tgm147/2012-02-15-020.jpg)

That's on 30mm Weitec springs at the front and standard CD ones at the back. Koni Sport shocks fitted all round. They weren't on the front in this picture but it made no change to the ride height.
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: barclay03 on 02 May 2012, 21:52:49
Thanks... the rear used to sit like...

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/9928_147516808409_502738409_3449746_5737250_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: P6UL K on 17 May 2012, 22:19:46
If you look at the hampshire meet page 4 you will see my green one :y

Which one is it matey?  NOt been able to get a clear side shot of it...
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: P6UL K on 17 May 2012, 22:38:53
I got one of my mates to photoshop mine so i get an idea of how it will sit...

Before:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16003.jpg)

Low:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-17024.jpg)

Lower:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-17025.jpg)

Obviously the latter photo is extreme but the one above that looks a good level to me  :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: pauls on 18 May 2012, 10:39:32

Which one is it matey?  NOt been able to get a clear side shot of it...[/quote]

Sorry mate will get a couple of clear photo's on hear later :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: pauls on 18 May 2012, 14:07:43
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/savillp/18512004.jpg)(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/savillp/18512003.jpg),
Sorry pictures not great but its a borrowed camera. Think I need to do a bit of weeding ;D
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: TheBoy on 18 May 2012, 18:04:02
I got one of my mates to photoshop mine so i get an idea of how it will sit...

Before:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-16003.jpg)

Low:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-17024.jpg)

Lower:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2012-05-17025.jpg)

Obviously the latter photo is extreme but the one above that looks a good level to me  :y
TBH, I think all too low. Even the Irmscher 30mm drop, whilst I like the feel of it, doesn't like speed bumps, making you look a right knob.


Would he not photoshop out that awful sticker ;)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 18 May 2012, 18:17:51
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/26825_404646593409_502738409_5060178_584463_n.jpg)


That looks real nice , would be nice to get mine looking similar but im imagining it costs a fair whack to do all the lowering  :-\
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Omega_Dan on 18 May 2012, 18:23:53
I lowered mine with apex springs that cost about £75 brand new but was overaged stock

40mm at front and 30mm at the back. not too firm or bouncy with standard shocks either. just right for me.

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j222/puma282/DSC_0120-1.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j222/puma282/DSC_0123.jpg)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Del Boy on 18 May 2012, 18:26:50
Dan just a quick question, did you refurb those alloys?
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Omega_Dan on 18 May 2012, 18:28:15
Dan just a quick question, did you refurb those alloys?

They had been refurbed yes del :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: TheBoy on 18 May 2012, 18:51:08
I lowered mine with apex springs that cost about £75 brand new but was overaged stock

40mm at front and 30mm at the back. not too firm or bouncy with standard shocks either. just right for me.
30mm is about the limit of std shocks, 40mm is probably asking too much
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Del Boy on 18 May 2012, 19:13:48
Dan just a quick question, did you refurb those alloys?

They had been refurbed yes del :y

What colour is the paint, Hyper Silver or something similar, that's a lovely colour, that even my wheel refurbishment chap can't seem to do  :y.
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 18 May 2012, 19:29:37
I lowered mine with apex springs that cost about £75 brand new but was overaged stock

40mm at front and 30mm at the back. not too firm or bouncy with standard shocks either. just right for me.
30mm is about the limit of std shocks, 40mm is probably asking too much

So 30mm front and back would be ok


When you say £75 would that be for each spring ?
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: TheBoy on 18 May 2012, 19:36:28
30mm is the max I'd like to go for UK road use, and the max I'd like to put on a newish standard shock - if shocks have covered some miles, replace them as well
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Martian on 18 May 2012, 19:41:20
30mm is about the limit of std shocks, 40mm is probably asking too much
I'll buy in to that.

My E36 has just undergone a 40/20 drop from stock, but it was already 15/11 lower than stock to start with.
Taking the math in to account, I have actually had a 25/9 drop from what is stock for me and the ride difference is noticeable in the fact it is slightly harsher, but it is a lot more definite in where you point it.

Although my shocks were already "sports" shocks as they are M-Sport, you can occasionally sense them getting close to the limit with the lower springs fitted so I'd agree that a 40mm drop will be a bit too much on standard shocks.


So 30mm front and back would be ok
I'd personally go for a split kit to have a slight "nose down" stance.


When you say £75 would that be for each spring ?
breakoff!!!!

I bought a complete Koni kit and had it delivered for £120 all in for the Beemer.
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: TheBoy on 18 May 2012, 19:45:18
I'd personally go for a split kit to have a slight "nose down" stance.
For pure looks, thats personal choice. Definately on the road to lead to 'interesting' handling if you're not careful.

My MV6 is nose-down, as I like my cars to handle quite 'pointy', and have constantly whinged about Omega's understeer. But it can catch you out.
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 18 May 2012, 19:47:03
30mm is about the limit of std shocks, 40mm is probably asking too much
I'll buy in to that.

My E36 has just undergone a 40/20 drop from stock, but it was already 15/11 lower than stock to start with.
Taking the math in to account, I have actually had a 25/9 drop from what is stock for me and the ride difference is noticeable in the fact it is slightly harsher, but it is a lot more definite in where you point it.

Although my shocks were already "sports" shocks as they are M-Sport, you can occasionally sense them getting close to the limit with the lower springs fitted so I'd agree that a 40mm drop will be a bit too much on standard shocks.


So 30mm front and back would be ok
I'd personally go for a split kit to have a slight "nose down" stance.


When you say £75 would that be for each spring ?
breakoff!!!!

I bought a complete Koni kit and had it delivered for £120 all in for the Beemer.
;D

Bluddy ell thats good then , will go out tomorrow and measure up to see what difference that makes in the arches  :)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: thebaldeagle on 18 May 2012, 19:47:57
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/thebaldeagle2/Omi/omi5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/thebaldeagle2/Omi/omi4.jpg)

if the links work..this is our MV6
it does scrape on the backend over speed bumps,especially if it has bodies in the back lol :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: tunnie on 20 May 2012, 09:35:04
Do MV6 shocks + very tired springs + 14 boxes of tiles count as lowered suspension?  :D

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/Springs/Photo%2021-04-2012%2017%2004%2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Shackeng on 20 May 2012, 11:20:26
Mods, could you move this  to the 'Chavtastic Omegas' please? :o ;D :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Becker on 20 May 2012, 11:33:54
Im not actually sure how much i lowered mine, but i just used standard cavalier springs out of an 1800 hatchback with my current omega, in the last one i had i used cavalier 40mm springs!

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Becker_666/SL382216.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Becker_666/SL380905.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Becker_666/SL380911.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Becker_666/SL380910.jpg)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: tgm147 on 20 May 2012, 23:24:46
Christ that's on its arse a bit! What happened when you got to a... pebble? Or was it a bit of a plan the route carefully job?  ;D
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: Becker on 22 May 2012, 21:56:27
They arent to bad (usually found driving hard helped hit the first bump miss about 4 or 5 then land on the 6th lol), only ever had problems with speed bumps, but even they were negotiable lol
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 May 2012, 22:09:38
I couldn't get off my estate with suspension like that...
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: chuftsmv6 on 28 May 2012, 21:28:21
hi i lowered my mv6 salloon 30mm on 19s it sits great and still quite comfortable plus handles much better it takes all the boatyness out of it lol check it out on the gallery section just type in chuftsmv6 in the search engine it should still hav some pics on :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 28 May 2012, 22:02:52
hi i lowered my mv6 salloon 30mm on 19s it sits great and still quite comfortable plus handles much better it takes all the boatyness out of it lol check it out on the gallery section just type in chuftsmv6 in the search engine it should still hav some pics on :y

Just had a look at that and like the look of it , sits nice  :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: chuftsmv6 on 28 May 2012, 23:53:54
thanks its got a 2jz tt in it now aswell :) will be ready to go back on the road in roughly couple of mths cant wait havnt drivin her for nearly 2 years since my head gasket went on the v6 :'(
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 29 May 2012, 09:37:06
thanks its got a 2jz tt in it now aswell :) will be ready to go back on the road in roughly couple of mths cant wait havnt drivin her for nearly 2 years since my head gasket went on the v6 :'(

I dont understand what 2jz tt is , not up on wheel tech talk but would like to know  :)
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: chuftsmv6 on 29 May 2012, 17:18:10
sorry i was on bout my engine ive squeezed a toyota supra twin turbo engine in it cant wait to get back out on the road
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: pirate on 29 May 2012, 17:40:12
my steinmetz is on e-bach springs all round 30 mm drop billies out back and kyb front struts sits nice and level and you can push on through twisty bits still not as hard as a bmw sport so nice ride but some speed cushions are a pain becouse of body kit front end is much lower than normal elite to start with,come and have a look at vauxhall performance day at santa pod on 10th of june. :y
Title: Re: Owners with lowered/uprated suspension...
Post by: omega3000 on 29 May 2012, 19:24:32
sorry i was on bout my engine ive squeezed a toyota supra twin turbo engine in it cant wait to get back out on the road

 ;D ;D ;D :-X