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Title: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: The Red Baron on 09 May 2012, 10:26:15
has anyone relocated the disspack from the rear of the head?.
where would you put it?.
 :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 10:28:33
has anyone relocated the disspack from the rear of the head?.
where would you put it?.
 :-\

Not for good.... but to easily switch between disspacs during strip down i sat mine on the plenum  ;D

as for relocation youll find that disspac connector dont want to move very far!
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 May 2012, 10:28:40
has anyone relocated the disspack from the rear of the head?.
where would you put it?.
 :-\

Cant see the point, it fits ok, is not that bad to change and will only realy need doing once in the engines life.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 11:16:01
Recall someone had moved it due to access and scuttle leakage  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 11:22:06
Where on Earth would you put it? lol I nearly lost my hand due to the limited access!  ;D

I'd say the position is a bit shite. right under the scuttle where potentially water can leak. and also difficult to quickly replace leads and such.... but i really cant think where else it would go.  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 11:32:10
With a bit of bracketry im sure it could be moved , once the scuttle has been off it seems they prone to leak so re sealing with goo is a must . I was going to make a drip cover for the coil pack when i replaced mine , just a matter of what to use and how to secure it  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 11:35:54
With a bit of bracketry im sure it could be moved , once the scuttle has been off it seems they prone to leak so re sealing with goo is a must . I was going to make a drip cover for the coil pack when i replaced mine , just a matter of what to use and how to secure it  :-\

I was thinking the exact same thing. only thing stopping me was thinking where would it drain off to?  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 11:39:04
With a bit of bracketry im sure it could be moved , once the scuttle has been off it seems they prone to leak so re sealing with goo is a must . I was going to make a drip cover for the coil pack when i replaced mine , just a matter of what to use and how to secure it  :-\

I was thinking the exact same thing. only thing stopping me was thinking where would it drain off to?  :-\

Just runs down the back of the engine i think , with plenty of sealant on the scuttle for a start to stop most of the dripping then the cover it should be good , maybe the OP was to move for a different reason
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 11:41:51
But wouldn't that then drip on the crank sensor or something else quite important?

I reckon seal it up and have a drip tray attached to the scuttle itself. then drain out every month ;)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 11:48:55
But wouldn't that then drip on the crank sensor or something else quite important?

I reckon seal it up and have a drip tray attached to the scuttle itself. then drain out every month ;)

Don think there would be that much to cause any problem , no more than what gets sprayed underneath when its raining . I think someone said they used some of that shed felt draped over the coil pack , might have a go with that  :)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 11:54:57
But wouldn't that then drip on the crank sensor or something else quite important?

I reckon seal it up and have a drip tray attached to the scuttle itself. then drain out every month ;)

Don think there would be that much to cause any problem , no more than what gets sprayed underneath when its raining . I think someone said they used some of that shed felt draped over the coil pack , might have a go with that  :)

Now that sounds like a good idea.

Steve, if you do this defo post a guide as i bet you'd get lots of people doing that  :y
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 12:03:18
Just wondering about the heat issue  :-\ dont want it melting and causing more grief .
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 12:09:24
Just wondering about the heat issue  :-\ dont want it melting and causing more grief .

Why not have it attached to the block ''eye'' and not touching the d/pc itself and create a ''run-off'' ;)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 12:14:02
Just wondering about the heat issue  :-\ dont want it melting and causing more grief .

Why not have it attached to the block ''eye'' and not touching the d/pc itself and create a ''run-off'' ;)

Will have a look , just need to nick some felt out me dads shed now  ;D :y
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: twiglet on 09 May 2012, 12:17:16
I recently bought a facelift 3.0 Elite off another OOFer with the intention of breaking it.  This has had the dis-pack relocated next the the PAS reservoir, where it has been cable tied in place!!  :o
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 12:24:01
I recently bought a facelift 3.0 Elite off another OOFer with the intention of breaking it.  This has had the dis-pack relocated next the the PAS reservoir, where it has been cable tied in place!!  :o

How's he got the chord stretched there Twig?  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: twiglet on 09 May 2012, 12:27:27
I recently bought a facelift 3.0 Elite off another OOFer with the intention of breaking it.  This has had the dis-pack relocated next the the PAS reservoir, where it has been cable tied in place!!  :o

How's he got the chord stretched there Twig?  :-\

I haven't looked that closely to be honest, but there seems to be plenty of slack on all the leads.  I assume that they are non-standard leads...  :-\

At least when someone says they need a dis-pack, I won't have to spend an hour removing it, only to find it's knackered, hey Steve!  ::) ;D :-X
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: RobG on 09 May 2012, 12:29:22
I recently bought a facelift 3.0 Elite off another OOFer with the intention of breaking it.  This has had the dis-pack relocated next the the PAS reservoir, where it has been cable tied in place!!  :o
This one perchance
(http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 12:30:16
Hahahahaha cheers mate ;)

i can see how the HT leads would stretch cos my ones from eurocarparts are well long compared to the originals..... i'm thinking more of the diosspac connector  :-\

when you have a look would be good to see maybe with a pic ;)  ;D
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 12:50:57
Dont the coil pack have to be earthed though  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: RobG on 09 May 2012, 12:52:35
Dont the coil pack have to be earthed though  :-\
DIS doesn`t utilise an earth
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 12:58:34
Plenty of room to fashion a shelf on the drivers side , just a case of replacing longer leads and power connection .
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: twiglet on 09 May 2012, 13:02:44
I recently bought a facelift 3.0 Elite off another OOFer with the intention of breaking it.  This has had the dis-pack relocated next the the PAS reservoir, where it has been cable tied in place!!  :o
This one perchance
(http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)

Not sure if that is the same car Rob.  Difficult to tell being that the one I have is covered in oil ::)  The dis-pack is certainly in that general area though.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 May 2012, 13:30:22
There is no earth on a car....unless its been bolted to a bloody great big buried metal spike!
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: twiglet on 09 May 2012, 13:38:19
There is no earth on a car....unless its been bolted to a bloody great big buried metal spike!

That might adversely affect performance somewhat!  ;D
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Andy B on 09 May 2012, 15:28:50
There is no earth on a car.... .....

But you know what they mean ..........  ::) ::)

0/zero volts is commonly refered to as 'earth' in automotive wiring diags  ;)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 15:38:55
There is no earth on a car.... .....

But you know what they mean ..........  ::) ::)

0/zero volts is commonly refered to as 'earth' in automotive wiring diags  ;)

We been clocked "run" ! (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/zerglin/Smileys/RUNN.gif)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Murph on 09 May 2012, 17:58:48
I relocated mine to just below the airbox - there's even a cutout in the box that looks made to measure.
I made up a small loom to extend the wiring without damaging the original wiring and knocked up a bracket out of some 1mm steel.
I did need to borrow a no.6 lead from the Carlton though, and that one has to run over the top of the engine but after 3 months I have had no problems.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: tunnie on 09 May 2012, 18:01:33
Never understand why people bother going to all that fuss of relocating?  :-\

They last at least 10 years+, with the scuttle off they are fairly easy to change, just fiddly.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 18:02:46
I relocated mine to just below the airbox - there's even a cutout in the box that looks made to measure.
I made up a small loom to extend the wiring without damaging the original wiring and knocked up a bracket out of some 1mm steel.
I did need to borrow a no.6 lead from the Carlton though, and that one has to run over the top of the engine but after 3 months I have had no problems.

you got a pic of this murph? sounds great ;)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Murph on 09 May 2012, 18:04:04
Dunno - will look on the phone as I'm 200 miles from the car at present.

I relocated mine due to my spare being completely different and not fitting on the original bracket.
*EDIT*
Sorry no pic on my phone so I'll take one on monday.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 18:06:44
also a lot easier if leads need changing id imagine
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: tunnie on 09 May 2012, 18:11:46
also a lot easier if leads need changing id imagine

Leads only need changing due to poor servicing, failed cam cover gaskets and oil in plugs will case HT leads to break down.

A well maintained car should go for 100k+ easily on a set of HT leads + DIS pack
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 May 2012, 18:14:38
also a lot easier if leads need changing id imagine

Leads only need changing due to poor servicing, failed cam cover gaskets and oil in plugs will case HT leads to break down.

A well maintained car should go for 100k+ easily on a set of HT leads + DIS pack

oh ok, thats fair enough then. i didnt know that. may as well keep as is then  :y :y :y
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 09 May 2012, 19:13:16
I relocated mine to just below the airbox - there's even a cutout in the box that looks made to measure.
I made up a small loom to extend the wiring without damaging the original wiring and knocked up a bracket out of some 1mm steel.
I did need to borrow a no.6 lead from the Carlton though, and that one has to run over the top of the engine but after 3 months I have had no problems.

you got a pic of this murph? sounds great ;)

+ 1 pic would be great  :y
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Murph on 09 May 2012, 20:59:01
I'll get one on monday - somebody should remind me though, my head's like a sieve!
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: feeutfo on 09 May 2012, 22:01:15
One removed, the options are re fit it, or relocate it. Easier to re fit it surely? :-\

Often wondered about sliding a plastic guard of some sort down the back of the engine to keep and water off... But then it will rattle, be fiddly to fit, be in the way for other jobs, and sealing the scuttle is easier, ESP as it has to come off to get the dis out anyway.
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: Murph on 15 May 2012, 22:51:43
As requested... difficult to see in a photo though...
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/daymurphy/20120514_204535.jpg)
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2012, 14:58:11
That is certainly easier to get to  :y
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: tunnie on 16 May 2012, 15:24:05
Not sure I'd want my coil pack sitting under that amount of water  :-\
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: amba on 16 May 2012, 15:49:15
Would also imagine the leads are going to get pretty hot running past the exhaust manifold,although a noval design.

Each to their own I suppose ;D
Title: Re: v6 disspack relocation
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 May 2012, 17:21:01
after looking at several options ive decided to leave it where it should be, having lpg on aswell just limits the space even more so it stays as. :y