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Title: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Andy B on 09 May 2012, 21:06:40
I thought that they were done via VOSA vehicles  :-\ :-\
On my way home from work earlier this afternoon I saw a Sprinter type van coned off on the opposite side of the road in a bus lane being 'attended to' by 3 or 4 Bobbies (couple of which wore a classic Bobbies helmets  ???) Didn't think anything of it. About 100yds further round the bend was a copper in a marked Police Nissan 4x4 wanna-be with what I can only assume was a camera attached to the B post pointing behind him.
Was he checking MOTs & insurance?  :-\ :-\ :-\ I've only ever seen VOSA marked cars with a board of some sort saying something along the lines of ''we're checking that you're road legal'
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: the alarming man on 09 May 2012, 21:32:21
think you will find plod was doing speed :(
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 09 May 2012, 21:33:54
think you will find plod was doing speed

+1  :y
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: tunnie on 09 May 2012, 21:34:23
Not 100 yards, thought they would do longer distance for average check.

Sounds like an ANPR sting to me. Any other plod near the Nissan? Usual deal is the van reads plates, then have a set of squad cars ready to pounce.
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 09 May 2012, 21:37:49
Yer right Tunnie, probably ANPR. Note to self (must read whole sentance)  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: hotel21 on 09 May 2012, 21:39:37
ANPR
 :)
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: flyer 0712 on 09 May 2012, 21:59:30
Yep A.N.P.R.  are always around my area    Luton and Dunstable....heck only to be expected ..lol. :y
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: ngrainqey on 09 May 2012, 22:17:55
we dont have ANPR bollock checks... they know we're dodgy buggers up in yorkshite!

...obviously the traffic/interceptor plods have ANPR when they arnt blowing up evos :P
and theres supposed to be tax/insurance/ANPR in undisclosed locations
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Andy B on 09 May 2012, 22:19:44
think you will find plod was doing speed

+1  :y

Doubt it, you'd have struggled to get to much more than 30 by the time you got to the car from the roundabout just up the road.
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Andy B on 09 May 2012, 22:21:09
ANPR
 :)

 :y :y OK by me, just didn't think it was police that did it.  :-\
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Andy B on 09 May 2012, 22:22:49
..... Any other plod near the Nissan? Usual deal is the van reads plates, then have a set of squad cars ready to pounce.

Their car was up by coned off Sprinter & I assume they'd already  pounced.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Vamps on 09 May 2012, 22:53:00
I have seen ANPR vans, sure they were quite plain, the give away was the rear windows where the Camera would be and the plod, not always marked, parked up the road...

I recently passed a patrol car that had pulled over a newish small Pug, said car was plastered with stickers saying No Insurance No Car, I guess any passing motorists got the picture, which I fully agree with.... :y :y
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: hotel21 on 09 May 2012, 22:56:38
ANPR
 :)

 :y :y OK by me, just didn't think it was police that did it.  :-\
Absofrekkinlooteley...

Got many a fine lock up in the early days ANPR....  :y
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: hotel21 on 09 May 2012, 23:00:27
Our original van was a little blue Peugeot Partner, custon built, as the Jocks were not part of the fustercluck multienglish force requirement of ACPO, back in the day. We were left to our own devices and able to exchange data between the 8 Scottish forces seperate from (but inclusive of) PNC and able to deliver a much more viable nikkin tool than the Home Office required version....   8) 
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: tunnie on 10 May 2012, 14:32:35
Last time I saw one, it was an unmarked Mondeo Estate, badly parked I might add, half on the pavement, on a section with double yellows  ??? - Not far from one of those traffic island either, so bit tight for the double deckers.

Anyway, walked past, plod inside watching the TV feed from the camera on the roof pointing backwards.

500 meters up the road, a plod standing there. As I walked passed I said, got an ANPR sting going? He asked if I was in the force to spot it! Not really hard I thought, had a good look as I walked by.

Anywho cars flagged, the copper standing by road, would direct into an area where about 10 coppers were waiting to deal with them.

Quite common around London  :)
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 10 May 2012, 16:12:30
The updates to the in-car ANPR systems used to take about 14 days (no not live data as you would expect) but has recently be improved to 7 days so any time shortly after the 7th is when they set up the stings road side observation & checking.

Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 10 May 2012, 17:37:17
The updates to the in-car ANPR systems used to take about 14 days (no not live data as you would expect) but has recently be improved to 7 days so any time shortly after the 7th is when they set up the stings road side observation & checking.

Depends where you are in the country, as well - I understand many forces can download the data every 24 hours.

Our local traf- sorry, roads policing unit, has only got ANPR in half of the cars... so there's a bit of a fight for the keys at shift change.
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: hotel21 on 10 May 2012, 18:30:52
The updates to the in-car ANPR systems used to take about 14 days (no not live data as you would expect) but has recently be improved to 7 days so any time shortly after the 7th is when they set up the stings road side observation & checking.
When I done my last shift up here in Scotland almost 6 years ago you updated the drive from all sources (PNC plus assorted intel databases) just before you went out to the car then downloaded all the read data (including GPS location of where the VRM was read) at the end of the shift which was then uploaded into the databases and available for interrogation by those and such as those within a few minutes of completion.

Even PNC data was downloaded 'realtime' as it were at shift start, albeit there may well have been a delay of sorts in getting data pushed back into the PNC system but notanywhere near 7 days....
 
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 May 2012, 20:28:47
Surely these days the cars have a wireless link to check these sort of details?

Criminals can do it with a single trip to Carphone Whorehouse. It's about time the Police could too. ;)
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 10 May 2012, 20:34:36
Surely these days the cars have a wireless link to check these sort of details?

Criminals can do it with a single trip to Carphone Whorehouse. It's about time the Police could too. ;)

Many will leave base having done an update just prior to leaving. If the reg that is checked isn't on the update then the "exception" is sent over wireless for a live check. This keeps the number of transmissions to a minimum.
Title: Re: Road side checks for MOT & ins
Post by: Vamps on 10 May 2012, 23:38:17
We had a little panic yesterday, on master Vamps behalf, he is not aware that for a few days his car would have shown as uninsured if the 24 hr update applies, his number would have been deleted for 5 days........ ::) ::) ::)  The fault of Admiral Multicar not noticed till the paperwork came through..... ::) ::)  I changed a personal plate from one Mig to the other Mig and put the old number back on the old Mig, NEVER in the discussion did I mention his car, a Focus, but the paperwork showed my private number on his car and not on swmbo......rang them up, they admitted it was there error and therefore there would be no charge for the alterations..... ::) ::) ::)