Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: razorviper on 10 May 2012, 17:00:09
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what a place to start , it may seem a little odd because this is 'owners' of omega forum...well actually I'm planning on buying one , so I need help..
Im after the facelift model , mainly year 2002-2004.
I have a dilemma though. benzine or diesel?
there are actually two options - 2.2i and 2.2dti , which one is better & safer option and why?
have in mind though that I own vectra b 1.8i16V , I dont drive too much at all....so now you get it why I want Omega , its natural I guess.
so help.
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If you don't do many miles, the cost of diesel isn't really worth it. How about a V6 - 2.6 or 3.2?
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if i had to get another,ide go for the v6,the 2.2 petrol is easier to work on,but the v6 engine is better due to it being a heavy car..
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I think Diesel is a lot cheaper than Petrol in Croatia, makes a big difference.
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diesel is not cheaper at all in fact its either the same as petrol or more expensive , so there is None difference at all.
What makes difference is fuel consumption , according to papers the 2.2 petrol does around 14l in the city whilst the 2.2 dti does around 10 , but that's not the point.
the point is which of the two gives me less worries ?
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2.2 DTi, given regular oil changes (every 3-5,000 miles) will just go on and on. They really can take the big miles. No doubt more economical too.
But, how many miles do you do? Is there a big price difference in buying a DTi over the petrol? In the UK, a relatively small difference in price of say £700, can take around 10,000 miles to pay back in savings in fuel.
Everyone thinks diesels are cheaper to run, but thats not always the case ;)
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you say 2.2dti is the deal , what about the fuel pump and turbo , what is it driven by , belt or a chain?...I dont do much miles , around 5-7thousand km each year , it could be over 10t it depends but less likely....
there is no difference in price , Im going to Geramny to buy there , have in mind that those are 10y old cars and thats why Im asking what will give me less trouble later, a diesel or a petrol , I know for a fact well since Im driving eco-tec 1.8 myself that these engines are very durable and very good , that must be the case with 2.2 ? , basically I will have the same performance as the vectra but with higher fuel , Im doing around 10l now (city) , open roads around 6-7 , with omega I will be doing around 14! but thats fine , I am willing to pay more for fuel if the car is all peachy smooth , on the other hand the dti gives you plenty of torque at low rpm , that's what this car needs in my opinion , it suites omega better in my opinion , the 280Nm does the thing which the 2.2i 16V is no where near , I know all the technical stuff but I need real life experiences from people who own the damn thing so I'm open to any good advice.
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anyone?
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Whoever in the GM/Opel company at the time took the decision to put that useless 2.2 diesel pick up truck engine into an Omega should have been fired on the spot. The 2.2 diesel should never have made it past the Vectra model range, avoid an Omega with this engine like the plauge,you will be doing low mileage so go for petrol 2.2 or preferably V6 of any size, the only good diesel Omega has a straight six BMW engine in it,get one of those if you really want diesel power but avoid the 2.2dti at all costs, it's a good enough engine it just does not belong in an Omega.
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The 2.2 diesel should never have made it past the Vectra model range, avoid an Omega with this engine like the plauge
avoid the 2.2dti at all costs, it's a good enough engine it just does not belong in an Omega.
I have to agree. I drove a DTi Mig not long ago and wasn't thrilled with it.
Though - I'd probably have one over a 2.0 4 pot petrol...
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JamesV6CDX
Thank God the first response (from you) to my berating of the 2.2dti engine was a positive one (for my comments,not the engine). I await the flood of dti drivers telling me how great their Omega is with this "power" plant installed...I would rather cut a hole in the floor pan and do a Fred Flintstone than drive an Omega with this bilge pump under the bonnet.
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JamesV6CDX
Thank God the first response (from you) to my berating of the 2.2dti engine was a positive one (for my comments,not the engine). I await the flood of dti drivers telling me how great their Omega is with this "power" plant installed...I would rather cut a hole in the floor pan and do a Fred Flintstone than drive an Omega with this bilge pump under the bonnet.
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Say it like you mean it Pete ;D
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No other way !
I might show up as a newbie with only 25 posts but I have been driving/owning/paying for Omegas since about 1998 and am just telling it as I found it during my time behind the wheel. Anyone who disagrees with me re: the 2.2dti engine is a grade "A" fool.
Regards
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never owned a diesel so cant comment ,but as i own a v6 that falls into the 10 year old age bracket i have to say i have had very little trouble with it (shoots himself in the foot) ;D as long as you service regulary oil changes,cam belts etc. good service history helps ;).
fuel consumption i get around 24 mpg round town & 36 mpg on country runs which i think is not bad for a car of nearly 2 ton in weight and automatic as well,and drives like jenson button sometimes ::) but thats just my opinion hth :y
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so 2.2dti that bad huh?...still dont understand why , noisy , slow , breaks to much , thirsty , not reliable ?.....why is it so bad?
I think it pulls a lot better than 2.2i tho but is slower at the top end speed which you don't do very often...I'm doing 205kmh with Vectra which is 1.8i , that is damn impressive for a 116hp and 1300kg medium sedan....what I don't like is it doesnt have the torque (170Nm at 3400) to slam you into the seats when you wish to overtake someone with light speed , thats the case with omega 2.2i , its more powerful but much heavier around 300kg , so Im back at the same I guess , but I guess Im much safer?!
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its like buying any car,you just dont know how good it is till you actually buy it and driven it,there isnt any good or bad engine,its all down to how its been maintained and driven by previous owners,its a gamble you take :y