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Title: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 23 May 2012, 02:38:37
I don't know how many have been following my threads regarding the cdx I bought a few weeks ago. The abs and tc lights on, exhaust blow, the em light - which has now been cured - tepid heater etc. Well, this morning after finishing work, jumped in the car to come home, and the b*****d decided it wasn't going to fire. That's it, I've had e-bloody-nough. I'm going to do one of two things, immediately. I'm either going to swap it with my mate who had my 2.0 cd (yes, he wants the cdx, the bloody old fool) or I'm going to park it up and re-insure my faithful old Previa.
Shame really, because basically it's a decent car, but too many niggles for me to sort out. At the risk of sounding boring, I just haven't got the time.
Any ideas on the non starting, chaps? I reckon CTS or fuel pump relay. It did fire eventually, misfired a tad, then settled down. It drove home perfectly.
I've lost the love now though.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: albitz on 23 May 2012, 06:24:03
Crank sensor has to be the favourite suspect. Do paperclip test and dont be surprised to get a code 19.
Any joy in finding an ABS ECU yet ?
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: tunnie on 23 May 2012, 08:16:50
So it cranked over, but never fired? As above check for a code 19  :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 23 May 2012, 09:11:13
Crank sensor has to be the favourite suspect. Do paperclip test and dont be surprised to get a code 19.
Any joy in finding an ABS ECU yet ?
Yeah, the abs ecu arrived today. Normally when I receive a much needed part, I can't wait to get out and fit it, but with this car, the enthusiasm has completely gone.
Yep, the bloody thing just cranked over and over. I could hear the battery starting to go, the central locking locked and unlocked itself!!! and then it finally fired. All in the works car park at 2 am this morning. Oh, what fun I had.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 23 May 2012, 10:18:10
Also, I've never done the paperclip test. Will probably get the result wrong.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Big_Al on 23 May 2012, 20:20:11
Calm down  . . . it's only a motor  . ..      My advise is don't make any rash decisions on the spur of the moment . count to ten   (thousand) ;D ;D ;D

Dave , reading between the lines I get the feeling you would be happier with a 4 pot  rather than a V6.  End of the day it's your choice .  Still a good car  & still an omega . So plenty of fun to be had with us guys , whichever model you own . But a Previa or what ever it's called  :o :o :o :o :o     

  :y :y :y       regards, Al

Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 May 2012, 20:51:50
No matter what car you have you will get teething problems :'( but that said, you now have your ABS ECU, if your car turns over and over but does not try to fire it will like already said point to the Crank sensor which are around £55. The hole in the exhaust may be weldable :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: TheBoy on 23 May 2012, 20:55:08
Also, I've never done the paperclip test. Will probably get the result wrong.
Why are you randomly changing ECUs etc if you have no diagnosis. Thats not the way to do things on modern cars, you just end up confusing the issue.

Do the paperclip test as the very first thing :y :)
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Post by: PhilRich on 23 May 2012, 21:12:15
NIL DESPERANDUM...etc! not just a fancy quote when you own an Omega matey ;D
Stick with it. In my experience with my car it had been badly neglected prior to my ownership & I reaped the whirlwind, but with the help of the Guys & Girls here it's now well sorted, as yours inevitably will be if you give it a chance :y
As TB says, read the codes & get the full SP before changing parts willy nilly, as that path leads to Insolvency and ultimately Madness! ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 24 May 2012, 00:56:41
It should be gone by Monday, and I should have my 2.0 cd back. I quite enjoyed working on that because of the amount of room around the engine bay. You can actually get to components without having to remove several other parts first. The chaps who's having it knows all the issues, and he's quite happy to take them on. Oh and by the way, the manifold gaskets are leaking. He knows about that too, unlike me when I bought it. Perfectly calm Al.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 24 May 2012, 02:14:53
Also, I've never done the paperclip test. Will probably get the result wrong.
Why are you randomly changing ECUs etc if you have no diagnosis. Thats not the way to do things on modern cars, you just end up confusing the issue.



The car has been plugged in and the fault code pointed to an internal fault in the abs ecu, hence me buying another one.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 24 May 2012, 02:25:21
But a Previa or what ever it's called  :o :o :o :o :o     

  :y :y :y       regards, Al
Sorry mate, won't hear a bad word about the Previa. Ok, it's old, a K reg. But it's gone through three mot's since I've had it without even a bulb having to be changed, in fact when I took it in for the first time, the tester wanted to buy it. Me, the Mrs, daughter and two grandsons went on holiday to the Isle of Wight in it, with all associated luggage and it performed faultlessly. Twin sunroofs, bags of room, and a chain driven engine. What more could you want. It's an automatic, and the selector is on the steering column, so nothing between the seats. I'll definitely not be getting rid of it. Even the aircon still works.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 25 May 2012, 12:48:04
Things ain't getting any better chaps.
It's flattened its battery now. This seems to be a recurring fault with the car. I had to get a jumpstart to get it home from the Wirral.
So, a power drain or an alternator not up to the job, who knows? Who cares any more.
Undoubtably the biggest heap of poo I've ever bought.
I will tell my mate about this latest problem, then it's up to him. If he doesn't have it, I'll probably run it over the bridge.
Either way, it's going.
By the way, is it ok to charge a maintenence free battery? With normal batteries, I unscrew the tops from the cells, but can't with this one. It does seem to have a vent at each end though.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: albitz on 25 May 2012, 13:03:52
Should be fine to charge it in the normal way.I always do. :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 25 May 2012, 20:03:22
Thanks Albs
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Post by: Murph on 25 May 2012, 20:12:15
I  still have a spare battery here if you need it Dave - if only to have a standby in the boot til it goes.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 25 May 2012, 20:38:30
It should be gone by Monday, and I should have my 2.0 cd back. I quite enjoyed working on that because of the amount of room around the engine bay. You can actually get to components without having to remove several other parts first. The chaps who's having it knows all the issues, and he's quite happy to take them on. Oh and by the way, the manifold gaskets are leaking. He knows about that too, unlike me when I bought it. Perfectly calm Al.
thats why i changed to a 4pot 2.2 easy to work with :y :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Big_Al on 25 May 2012, 21:15:07
But a Previa or what ever it's called  :o :o :o :o :o     

  :y :y :y       regards, Al
Sorry mate, won't hear a bad word about the Previa. Ok, it's old, a K reg. But it's gone through three mot's since I've had it without even a bulb having to be changed, in fact when I took it in for the first time, the tester wanted to buy it. Me, the Mrs, daughter and two grandsons went on holiday to the Isle of Wight in it, with all associated luggage and it performed faultlessly. Twin sunroofs, bags of room, and a chain driven engine. What more could you want. It's an automatic, and the selector is on the steering column, so nothing between the seats. I'll definitely not be getting rid of it. Even the aircon still works.


Sorry old chap. . .    but meant it purely from a comfort & ride  point of view  against the omega. . .   no offence intended  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: flyer 0712 on 25 May 2012, 21:37:05
I have had  2.0 ltr   2.5.....3.0...and now have a 2.2...why.????? because they were all omegas.....i had heaps of trouble with this 2.2.when i first got it,so i posted questions on here and took the advice given every time and finally sorted it....that was all in the past and i just love these cars....so if you can stick with it and take the advice from these guys who..lets face it know what they are talking about..and its free  :y....i am sure you will sort it and then like me you can forget the past and enjoy your omega   :) :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 26 May 2012, 05:45:26
I  still have a spare battery here if you need it Dave - if only to have a standby in the boot til it goes.
Thanks Day. Sorry about the late reply, been at work as usual.
The battery has charged overnight, so I'll stick that on. My mate is having the car tonight (Saturday, we're both working), and I'll be getting the cd back. I've got nothing at all against Omegas, especially after all the Carltons and Senators I've had, but this particular one is a bit of a dog as far as I'm concerned. Murph will testify to the amount of Griffins I've had. If only they'd kept the mechanicals simple, like the 12 valve Senny. A fine 3.0 litre chain driven engine.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Murph on 26 May 2012, 14:11:24
Well.....  I might be able to get my hands on a spare 3.0 12v engine to drop into the Mega...   :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: omega3000 on 26 May 2012, 17:48:00
Well.....  I might be able to get my hands on a spare 3.0 12v engine to drop into the Mega...   :y

 :o

Has anyone done that before , would be interesting  ;)
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: albitz on 26 May 2012, 18:05:19
Only the 24v twin turbo 3.6 from a Lotus Carlton.But at least you know it will fit if you want to have a go. :y
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Murph on 26 May 2012, 21:11:00
I'm pretty sure there's a 3.0 24v in Ireland too. It was posted as for sale on TC a while back IIRC.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Murph on 26 May 2012, 21:13:19
Found it!
http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/3317966
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 26 May 2012, 22:19:12
I'd love a 3.0 l 12 valve in the Omega. Would have to do away with the rubber injector hoses though
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Murph on 26 May 2012, 22:43:31
I'm putting a 2.6 setup on one for my project car.
Title: Re: I've got to admit defeat.
Post by: Tetleysmooth on 27 May 2012, 05:29:28
Got the cd back now. Drove excellent coming home from work.
No lights on the dash, no exhaust blows, and I quite prefer the pre facelift dash.
Feeling a bit better about things now.