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Title: whats the best omega engine
Post by: caolan_p on 04 April 2008, 23:16:49
hello all, what do yous think is the best in the omega's,as my 2.2 ecotec is my first migg and it needs or wants a lot of love+money,i love them but the other half is getting p-----off with the bill's?? your thoughts please  :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: ffcgary1 on 05 April 2008, 07:38:40
I can only comment on what i have, it has to be the v6 varients, 2.5 or 3.0 v6's. This tread will be more aimed at those who have owned more than one type of omega. :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Elite Pete on 05 April 2008, 07:40:10
I have a V6 and thats the only one for me ;)
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Post by: Auto Addict on 05 April 2008, 07:40:33
I'm quite happy with my 2.2, lot easier to work on than a V6, engine compartment wise.
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Post by: Bo Bo on 05 April 2008, 07:55:33
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I have a V6 and thats the only one for me ;)
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Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: albitz on 05 April 2008, 07:58:47
depends on your needs regarding power/economy and to an extent what type of journeys you usually do.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: waspy on 05 April 2008, 08:34:01
Iv'e not had mine long enough to comment, but so far as a whole, im happy  :)
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Post by: Albatross on 05 April 2008, 08:38:25
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depends on your needs regarding power/economy and to an extent what type of journeys you usually do.

What he said :y

All the engines are good.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Admin on 05 April 2008, 08:48:11
Best engine for power/economy is the 2.5 V6 with a manual gearbox.

Most cars have inherent niggles of some form (except small/mid size Toyotas maybe..)

The key is picking one that has been properly looked after before to minimize (not eliminate) the periodic maintenance.

Smartest piece of advice I ever received about cars...

"A car is only as good as it's previous owners"
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: shyboy on 05 April 2008, 12:09:53
I thought my 2.0l estate was out of this world until I got the 2.6l. Now that is some engine, and I believe the 3.0l's are even more exciting.
Well worth the pecuniary pain.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Entwood on 05 April 2008, 14:10:39
Without doubt .. none whatsoever... it can only be...

3.2 V6


The 2.5 in the old beast was good, very good, but this is just another dimension ... :)

I haven't stopped grinning for 2 months now  :)
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: dippydave on 05 April 2008, 14:16:59
I've not had a diesel so can't comment but i've had all the old petrol engines and indeed all were good at something!  :)

My first was the 2.016V, with a manual box it was a screamer! Big smiles and great for round town as well. Can't remember fuel figures or anything but think it was similar to the v6s i've had since! It did have to work hard I suppose, although as the car was a Select (read sooo basic - even wind up windows in the back!), this probably made it lighter too!

When i moved onto a 3 litre v6, with an automatic as well, the noise was the first impression  :) 8-) :y. and the effortless motorway driving. it thought nothing of overtaking - even with a caravan apparently!

Now I'm onto the 2.5v6 with a manual and find it often to be as quick as the 3.0, slightly more economical (just) and quite capable with loads too. My only gripe is on the motorway, 5th gear seems pointless. shame it wasn't geared to drop more than 400 revs!

I wonder about giving it more power, not sure if that's because i find it slower or just know that it is less powerful than the 3litre!  :-/

There's also something about having a burbly v6 rather than a 16v lump that astra's get too.... 8-)
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Weds on 05 April 2008, 16:47:03
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hello all, what do yous think is the best in the omega's,as my 2.2 ecotec is my first migg and it needs or wants a lot of love+money,i love them but the other half is getting p-----off with the bill's?? your thoughts please  :y

3.2 V6....
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: HGV mechanic on 05 April 2008, 17:11:53
V6  8-)
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 05 April 2008, 20:36:35
2.0 8 valver.... ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: caolan_p on 06 April 2008, 11:20:55
Thanks for all thr replys ,has any one ever had a bmw engine in theres ? :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Big_Al on 06 April 2008, 11:43:45
 3 .0 V6 for me.

Bit thirsty, Bit tricky to work on ... but it,s worth it

Go on try a 3.0  - you'll love it  :y :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: JiMbOb789 on 06 April 2008, 11:47:21
i like my 2.6 V6, it looks nice when you open up the bonnet and goes like the wind :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 April 2008, 12:09:59
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Thanks for all thr replys ,has any one ever had a bmw engine in theres ? :y

The 2.5TD owners have
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2008, 14:08:03
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Thanks for all thr replys ,has any one ever had a bmw engine in theres ? :y
In std form the 2.5TDS BMW engine fitted to 2.5TD Omegas is bloody awful. Under powered, and overated. Bit like their cars, people see the badge and assume its wonderful.

It has a 4.5k MAX oil change, but anything over 3k and you can feel it run rough. Takes 6.5l and a £5 or £10 (trade price) oil filter, depending on age, so quite expensive to run.  In std form, esp round town, the v6 2.5 manual will be faster, smoother, and similar economy.  Get it on a motorway run, and it can be economical.

Now chip it, and it becomes a different beast. Until it melts the standard autobox - Omegatoy didn't quite managed 100miles with his chip  ;D
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: dippydave on 06 April 2008, 19:13:13
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2.0 8 valver.... ;D :D ;)

 :-/ :-/ eh? did they ever put one in an Omega?!!
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: markey mark on 06 April 2008, 19:16:38
yes dave ed select !! :-[
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: dippydave on 06 April 2008, 19:21:30
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yes dave ed select !! :-[
oh! i mustve been posh having the 16v select then!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: markey mark on 06 April 2008, 19:26:45
yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 April 2008, 19:59:20
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: markey mark on 06 April 2008, 20:07:04
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(

bloody hell it must have been a right slug !! ;D
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 06 April 2008, 21:04:12
bring it on....i`ll pulverise ya... :P
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 April 2008, 22:19:33
Carlton was around 122 I think the Omega was 100
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Post by: rickyboy on 07 April 2008, 10:43:51
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(

bloody hell it must have been a right slug !! ;D

I had the 2l 8v in my old cavalier (I assume it's the same engine).  Not to be laughed at, it was very powerful, bulletproof and never had any problems with EML's like the newer engines.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Paulus on 07 April 2008, 14:20:26
I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurve my 3.0 (http://www.pug306.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)(http://www.pug306.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/crazy.gif)
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 April 2008, 14:49:28
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(

Another myth!

It was the (X)20SE engine with 115 Bhp......as per the Carlton which never got the higher output 130Bhp unit used in the Cavalier and Astra.

You do sometimes see differences quoted but, the KW output is the same but , different versions of HP (DIN etc) are used giving different figures  :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: keith2.2 on 07 April 2008, 15:41:05
Without more context, this question is rather like asking what the best shoes to buy are..
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 April 2008, 15:47:55
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Without more context, this question is rather like asking what the best shoes to buy are..

Absolutely. Depends on your requirements. Sandals or walking boots?

None of them are really bad news, apart from a neglected 2.5TD, I'd say. They'll all do seious mileage if looked after. All of them will give you some niggles. Which one's right for you depends on your requirements / wallet.

Kevin
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Big Fra on 07 April 2008, 16:02:47
I have the 2.5 v6 manual.

I dont think the previous owners showed as much care and affection as I have.

My ave fuel cons - 18 to 21mpg!

I know its a v6, but i would expect a little more.

As some previous posts say, it all depends on the prev owners.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Debs. on 07 April 2008, 16:08:04
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Absolutely. Depends on your requirements. Sandals or walking boots?

.....heels, flats, courts......

"She whom dies with the most shoes wins!" ;D
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 April 2008, 16:12:24
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Absolutely. Depends on your requirements. Sandals or walking boots?

.....heels, flats, courts......

"She whom dies with the most shoes wins!" ;D

That goes a long way towards explaining what Mrs. KW is up to.  ::)

What about handbags? Do they count double?

 ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 April 2008, 16:43:47
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(

Another myth!

It was the (X)20SE engine with 115 Bhp......as per the Carlton which never got the higher output 130Bhp unit used in the Cavalier and Astra.

You do sometimes see differences quoted but, the KW output is the same but , different versions of HP (DIN etc) are used giving different figures  :y

My Carlton was 122 I think definately more than 115 - which was the 1.8 injection power and the 2.0s were definately quicker.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 April 2008, 16:56:31
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yea the later model was 16 valve iirc it was omly 94/96 when they used 8 valve same engine as carlton  :y


It was detuned from Carlton :(

Another myth!

It was the (X)20SE engine with 115 Bhp......as per the Carlton which never got the higher output 130Bhp unit used in the Cavalier and Astra.

You do sometimes see differences quoted but, the KW output is the same but , different versions of HP (DIN etc) are used giving different figures  :y

My Carlton was 122 I think definately more than 115 - which was the 1.8 injection power and the 2.0s were definately quicker.


The 122 figure was an approx DIN figure, which converts to 120 of the old horses less a little due to the cat (C an X varients which was also fitted to the later Carltons anyway!) gets you to the 115.

There were a few 1.8's fitted to the Carlton:

18SEH (injection)
18SV (carb)

Will need to check my book when I get home on those two......
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 April 2008, 17:01:11
I thought PS were slightly larger than bhp.

No cats on the Carlton.

I had it just after the Sunbeam and it was slower accelerating but definately more powerful - the Sunbeam was around 115bhp.
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: motmann on 07 April 2008, 19:43:29
last carltons had cats!   3.0v6 for me, it gets used very hard and fast including the brakes and puts a lot of more newer cars to shame,not bad for a 10yr old car, like the old granarda/scorpio german build quality good and still better than some of the cr*p we have on the roads today! :y
Title: Re: whats the best omega engine
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 07 April 2008, 19:54:24
my 8`valver is the only one on here so that makes it the best so there..... :P :P ;D ;D