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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 26 May 2012, 11:18:39
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At risk of opening a door to a load of F1 bashing, what a farce this race is. IMO.
Safety completely compromised.
Fart in the wrong direction and there's carbon fibre all over the track causing a stoppage.
Zero opportunity to over take.
And more pictures of boats, views across the harbor, and general excess than I care to look at personally.
What IS this race for exactly ? What a joke.
Drivers seem to enjoy it though. A different disciplin to the usual maybe?
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At risk of opening a door to a load of F1 bashing, what a farce this race is. IMO.
Safety completely compromised.
Fart in the wrong direction and there's carbon fibre all over the track causing a stoppage.
Zero opportunity to over take.
And more pictures of boats, views across the harbor, and general excess than I care to look at personally.
What IS this race for exactly ? What a joke.
Drivers seem to enjoy it though. A different disciplin to the usual maybe?
I've walked a lot of that track and its amazing how fast those guys can drive around a narrow winding street track with no run-offs,I think the drivers like the challenge
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As you know, my views are that F1 is a farce. A decision needs to be made in F1, is it a racing series, or is it about what man+machine can achieve. As this halfway house situation is dull.
Monaco - overtaking only for the brave. But I quite 'like' (in comparison to others) because it is a test of driver skill/consistency, as its so easy to be out of the 'race'
No doubt we'll see safety car >:(, thats a gay thing brought about in the last few years. Either the race can continue under double yellows (perhaps with a set speed limit in that section, breaking of which is instant black flag), or if serius, race red flagged.
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At risk of opening a door to a load of F1 bashing, what a farce this race is. IMO.
Safety completely compromised.
Fart in the wrong direction and there's carbon fibre all over the track causing a stoppage.
Zero opportunity to over take.
And more pictures of boats, views across the harbor, and general excess than I care to look at personally.
What IS this race for exactly ? What a joke.
Drivers seem to enjoy it though. A different disciplin to the usual maybe?
I've walked a lot of that track and its amazing how fast those guys can drive around a narrow winding street track with no run-offs,I think the drivers like the challenge
Which comes back to what I've been saying about F1 since for ever. The coverage simply does not convey the speed to the viewer. I've never been a camera man, but I imagine there is some skill involved in panning through a corner and keeping a car in focus, but even that doesnt convey the speed. Much less the easy cop out head on shots we are seeing. Camera positions may well be limited for space here of course.
Best shots for me is the through the tunnel, where the two cameras just flick from right to left. Peeyooowwwww. Swimming pool is impressive too sitting here. The rest is just waiting... :-\
Thing is if anyone wanted to argue F1 purely exists to prove itself as an Elitest And excessive past time, this is amunition in spades.
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As you know, my views are that F1 is a farce. A decision needs to be made in F1, is it a racing series, or is it about what man+machine can achieve. As this halfway house situation is dull.
Monaco - overtaking only for the brave. But I quite 'like' (in comparison to others) because it is a test of driver skill/consistency, as its so easy to be out of the 'race'
No doubt we'll see safety car >:(, thats a gay thing brought about in the last few years. Either the race can continue under double yellows (perhaps with a set speed limit in that section, breaking of which is instant black flag), or if serius, race red flagged.
So you clearly like the safety car then? ;D
Its odd they re surfaced that area coming out of the tunnel braking for the left hander, to take out the bumps, but yet they still keep loosing it on that section, on the bumps.
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As you know, my views are that F1 is a farce. A decision needs to be made in F1, is it a racing series, or is it about what man+machine can achieve. As this halfway house situation is dull.
Monaco - overtaking only for the brave. But I quite 'like' (in comparison to others) because it is a test of driver skill/consistency, as its so easy to be out of the 'race'
No doubt we'll see safety car >:(, thats a gay thing brought about in the last few years. Either the race can continue under double yellows (perhaps with a set speed limit in that section, breaking of which is instant black flag), or if serius, race red flagged.
So you clearly like the safety car then? ;D
Its odd they re surfaced that area coming out of the tunnel braking for the left hander, to take out the bumps, but yet they still keep loosing it on that section, on the bumps.
Go to Monaco and watch it mate - then you'll experience the F1 experience ;) I've driven the Monaco GP course and watched a couple of F1 gps there - its an experience you won't forget!! Its a true drivers course. Don't knock it until you've tried it mate ::)
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As you know, my views are that F1 is a farce. A decision needs to be made in F1, is it a racing series, or is it about what man+machine can achieve. As this halfway house situation is dull.
Monaco - overtaking only for the brave. But I quite 'like' (in comparison to others) because it is a test of driver skill/consistency, as its so easy to be out of the 'race'
No doubt we'll see safety car >:(, thats a gay thing brought about in the last few years. Either the race can continue under double yellows (perhaps with a set speed limit in that section, breaking of which is instant black flag), or if serius, race red flagged.
So you clearly like the safety car then? ;D
Its odd they re surfaced that area coming out of the tunnel braking for the left hander, to take out the bumps, but yet they still keep loosing it on that section, on the bumps.
Go to Monaco and watch it mate - then you'll experience the F1 experience ;) I've driven the Monaco GP course and watched a couple of F1 gps there - its an experience you won't forget!! Its a true drivers course. Don't knock it until you've tried it mate ::)
Which "mate" are you referring to D? ;D
Clearly you missed reply number 3!
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
So PdlR is gay poof then. And a nobody.
No event on the calendar is a REAL race. REAL races were banned by the FIA years ago.
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
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I think Monaco holds something special. Not sure what. Yes, it is the playboy captal for the rich, and participation in F1 is only for the rich.
Maybe its because its one of the only remaining original circuits. Maybe its because its one of the few places where the spectators can be near enough to the action not to need binoculars.
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
So PdlR is gay poof then. And a nobody.
No event on the calendar is a REAL race. REAL races were banned by the FIA years ago.
I don't agree, but if I was to agree this race would be top of the list.
In retrospect though, having seen some more of the footage from qulifying, and placing my arm chair squarely in front of the tv in the middle of the room, the impression of speed did start to come across more. :)
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I don't agree
We never will, as we clearly having differing views on what a 'race' is.
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I think Monaco holds something special. Not sure what. Yes, it is the playboy captal for the rich, and participation in F1 is only for the rich.
Maybe its because its one of the only remaining original circuits. Maybe its because its one of the few places where the spectators can be near enough to the action not to need binoculars.
tradition...? Yes that seems to be more important than driver/crowd safety, run off areas etc ...the cars have evolved but the circuit hasn't, can't.
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I don't agree
We never will, as we clearly having differing views on what a 'race' is.
it's a race within F1 rules.
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I wouldn't be sorry to see Monaco dropped from the calendar. Every year I pray for a damp race.
Having said that, I watched quali yesterday and it was good.
Looking forward to the race even so. Gross John was my tip before qualifying. Only a matter of time before the young lad wins a race.
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I think Monaco holds something special. Not sure what. Yes, it is the playboy captal for the rich, and participation in F1 is only for the rich.
Maybe its because its one of the only remaining original circuits. Maybe its because its one of the few places where the spectators can be near enough to the action not to need binoculars.
tradition...? Yes that seems to be more important than driver/crowd safety, run off areas etc ...the cars have evolved but the circuit hasn't, can't.
OK, simple solution is you want massive run off areas, hold it in a field in the middle of nowhere, and not allow spectators.
Like most sports, spectators want to be nearer to the action. Smell the engines, the tyres, get the atmosphere. Else may as well watch it on the telly. Or, more interestingly, watch the Dulux go off...
You are always the first to bang on about needing to see the sensation of speed. Yet want nothing near the track to give that sensation...
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I don't agree
We never will, as we clearly having differing views on what a 'race' is.
it's a race within F1 rules.
The F1 rules are set to prevent racing.
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I wouldn't be sorry to see Monaco dropped from the calendar. Every year I pray for a damp race.
Having said that, I watched quali yesterday and it was good.
Looking forward to the race even so. Gross John was my tip before qualifying. Only a matter of time before the young lad wins a race.
Trouble is, with the current rules/setup, it would be 60 odd laps following an AMG Merc.
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I think Monaco holds something special. Not sure what. Yes, it is the playboy captal for the rich, and participation in F1 is only for the rich.
Maybe its because its one of the only remaining original circuits. Maybe its because its one of the few places where the spectators can be near enough to the action not to need binoculars.
tradition...? Yes that seems to be more important than driver/crowd safety, run off areas etc ...the cars have evolved but the circuit hasn't, can't.
OK, simple solution is you want massive run off areas, hold it in a field in the middle of nowhere, and not allow spectators.
Like most sports, spectators want to be nearer to the action. Smell the engines, the tyres, get the atmosphere. Else may as well watch it on the telly. Or, more interestingly, watch the Dulux go off...
You are always the first to bang on about needing to see the sensation of speed. Yet want nothing near the track to give that sensation...
Yep, like Silverstone. Every round should be heald at Silverstone. Just up the road from you. :P ;D
As you've agreed with before, and as I've always said, my complaint has always been the quality of the tv coverage. ::)
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I don't agree
We never will, as we clearly having differing views on what a 'race' is.
it's a race within F1 rules.
The F1 rules are set to prevent racing.
Where. Past tense. You'll never be happy with f1 until aero is removed by the sound of it?
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I love the Monaco race, its one I never miss. I am already say in the garden with a beer waiting for it to start :)
Sent the mrs to the shops to buy some roadkill for the bar-be-que so I'm happy today although I was cursing the Omega earlier coz I couldn't get the wheels off.
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I think Monaco holds something special. Not sure what. Yes, it is the playboy captal for the rich, and participation in F1 is only for the rich.
Maybe its because its one of the only remaining original circuits. Maybe its because its one of the few places where the spectators can be near enough to the action not to need binoculars.
tradition...? Yes that seems to be more important than driver/crowd safety, run off areas etc ...the cars have evolved but the circuit hasn't, can't.
OK, simple solution is you want massive run off areas, hold it in a field in the middle of nowhere, and not allow spectators.
Like most sports, spectators want to be nearer to the action. Smell the engines, the tyres, get the atmosphere. Else may as well watch it on the telly. Or, more interestingly, watch the Dulux go off...
You are always the first to bang on about needing to see the sensation of speed. Yet want nothing near the track to give that sensation...
Yep, like Silverstone. Every round should be heald at Silverstone. Just up the road from you. :P ;D
As you've agreed with before, and as I've always said, my complaint has always been the quality of the tv coverage. ::)
Gutted Donnington lost the F1. I'll have to be a bloody hermit again for the weekend. And no chance of going to Tiffins that weekend >:(
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I don't agree
We never will, as we clearly having differing views on what a 'race' is.
it's a race within F1 rules.
The F1 rules are set to prevent racing.
Where. Past tense. You'll never be happy with f1 until aero is removed by the sound of it?
Aero needs to either be reduced dramatically, to enable genuine racing, or increased - ground effects et al - to become a demonstration of whats possible.
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Sent the mrs to the shops to buy some roadkill for the bar-be-que so I'm happy today although I was cursing the Omega earlier coz I couldn't get the wheels off.
I'm just about to light up mine :D
I will watch the start of the race whilst it warms up :)
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Yep dull.
Nearly a damp race.
Nearly saw some overtaking.
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
So PdlR is gay poof then. And a nobody.
No event on the calendar is a REAL race. REAL races were banned by the FIA years ago.
thats what i said weeks ago tb :y :y
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
Not at all Chris - you have a long memory and and I guess like to be right all the time!
Watched the GP on tele - not particularly exciting, more about tyre management than anything else! However 78 laps of "precision" driving in the main - those that didn't fall off were consistently so close to those barriers.
Mr de la Rosa at least managed 3 laps ;D ;D ;D
Did you in fact see the GP when you were at Monaco Chris?
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
Not at all Chris - you have a long memory and and I guess like to be right all the time!
Watched the GP on tele - not particularly exciting, more about tyre management than anything else! However 78 laps of "precision" driving in the main - those that didn't fall off were consistently so close to those barriers.
Mr de la Rosa at least managed 3 laps ;D ;D ;D
Did you in fact see the GP when you were at Monaco Chris?
D, are you, at the end of this rather odd list of quotes, going to ask me if I won the race? Because the answer to that is clearly no!...whats your point?
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
Not at all Chris - you have a long memory and and I guess like to be right all the time!
Watched the GP on tele - not particularly exciting, more about tyre management than anything else! However 78 laps of "precision" driving in the main - those that didn't fall off were consistently so close to those barriers.
Mr de la Rosa at least managed 3 laps ;D ;D ;D
Did you in fact see the GP when you were at Monaco Chris?
D, are you, at the end of this rather odd list of quotes, going to ask me if I won the race? Because the answer to that is clearly no!...whats your point?
You clearly didn't read post #30 Chris.
Just trying to get you to accept that sometimes it is difficult to be pedantic about something without actually experiencing that something in the flesh - in this case the Monaco GP.
Guess the answer to my unanswered question is no you have'nt see the monaco GP "first hand"
No offence intended ;) ;)
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I didn't see all of the Monaco Grand Prix either. Who won? Too much beer, too much work getting a wheel off earlier. I fell asleep after eating :-[
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
Not at all Chris - you have a long memory and and I guess like to be right all the time!
Watched the GP on tele - not particularly exciting, more about tyre management than anything else! However 78 laps of "precision" driving in the main - those that didn't fall off were consistently so close to those barriers.
Mr de la Rosa at least managed 3 laps ;D ;D ;D
Did you in fact see the GP when you were at Monaco Chris?
D, are you, at the end of this rather odd list of quotes, going to ask me if I won the race? Because the answer to that is clearly no!...whats your point?
You clearly didn't read post #30 Chris.
Just trying to get you to accept that sometimes it is difficult to be pedantic about something without actually experiencing that something in the flesh - in this case the Monaco GP.
Guess the answer to my unanswered question is no you have'nt see the monaco GP "first hand"
No offence intended ;) ;)
Why would i be offended? Although winky smileys show your intentions otherwise IMO.;D
Pointless conversation anyway, if I show you z you going to see a, no matter whats said, or seen clearly on the page.
I personally am fully in favour of F1 and what's involved as the sport goes. The point I am trying to make is this is about as far as its possible to get from the ideal stage to showcase it (note "showcase" not drive) from a spectators point of view. And that's me a spectator. A viewer.
Obviously I haven't driven an F1 car, and I'm sure you haven't either. I have been to Monaco on F1 weekend, and seen various support races, impressive. But it would be WAY more impressive at any other track. ...In my opinion. :)
...as a driver, I am sure the point of view is different, as I mentioned to in my very first post.
Jeez... ;D
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Pedro de la Rosa. HRT. - "I don't particularly like Monaco.... Too dangerous for modern f1. Great place, great atmosphere, but it's not a REAL race that I look forward to"
Prosecution rests. :)
??? what prosection mate ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pedro ain't exactly a top guy - check out other drivers' comments - most look forward to driving Monaco as its a different test of skills and concentration compared to most other circuits.
Guess you've not been there then ???
Missed the end of my first post too by the looks. I have as it happens. ;D
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Were you there for a GP Chris?
has somebody rattled your drop links D? Yes!
See the end of my first post also. "the drivers seem to enjoy it...."etc
Not at all Chris - you have a long memory and and I guess like to be right all the time!
Watched the GP on tele - not particularly exciting, more about tyre management than anything else! However 78 laps of "precision" driving in the main - those that didn't fall off were consistently so close to those barriers.
Mr de la Rosa at least managed 3 laps ;D ;D ;D
Did you in fact see the GP when you were at Monaco Chris?
D, are you, at the end of this rather odd list of quotes, going to ask me if I won the race? Because the answer to that is clearly no!...whats your point?
You clearly didn't read post #30 Chris.
Just trying to get you to accept that sometimes it is difficult to be pedantic about something without actually experiencing that something in the flesh - in this case the Monaco GP.
Guess the answer to my unanswered question is no you have'nt see the monaco GP "first hand"
No offence intended ;) ;)
Why would i be offended? Although winky smileys show your intentions otherwise IMO.;D
Pointless conversation anyway, if I show you z you going to see a, no matter whats said, or seen clearly on the page.
I personally am fully in favour of F1 and what's involved as the sport goes. The point I am trying to make is this is about as far as its possible to get from the ideal stage to showcase it (note "showcase" not drive) from a spectators point of view. And that's me a spectator. A viewer.
Obviously I haven't driven an F1 car, and I'm sure you haven't either. I have been to Monaco on F1 weekend, and seen various support races, impressive. But it would be WAY more impressive at any other track. ...In my opinion. :)
...as a driver, I am sure the point of view is different, as I mentioned to in my very first post.
Jeez... ;D
Sory Chris - wrong again ;) Years ago - a Williams
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
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chrisgixer - I occasionally go to the F1 test days up the road (only the free entry ones, I ain't paying ;D). That track has been forced, due to the clever way little Bernie played the situation over than last 10yrs, to have such massive run-off areas. Its not the same as it was before they really started rather around with the track. Mostly, outside of the complex, the track is so far from the spectators, you can barely see.
Yes, there has to be a way of ensuring nobody gets seriously injured, spectators or drivers, nobody denies that. From a racer's point of view (and that of F1 drivers as well), large run-off areas are great. But, for the spectators, who can only see a small section of track for their £200, they want to be...
...oh never mind, we'll never agree.
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and confirms a comment in one of my previous posts (fyi post #32) - only referring back to post #s as you did previously ;)
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chrisgixer - I occasionally go to the F1 test days up the road (only the free entry ones, I ain't paying ;D). That track has been forced, due to the clever way little Bernie played the situation over than last 10yrs, to have such massive run-off areas. Its not the same as it was before they really started rather around with the track. Mostly, outside of the complex, the track is so far from the spectators, you can barely see.
Yes, there has to be a way of ensuring nobody gets seriously injured, spectators or drivers, nobody denies that. From a racer's point of view (and that of F1 drivers as well), large run-off areas are great. But, for the spectators, who can only see a small section of track for their £200, they want to be...
...oh never mind, we'll never agree.
having ridden and spectated at Silverstone, ( dont worry i dont want a medal ;D )
personally I think the place is Motorsport mecca. Given the balance between driver/rider/spectator satisfaction. It is a bit flat, so I guess thats bound to make spectators view a bit restricted, but other than that.
Where would you rather watch an f1 race ? Monaco or Silverstone. Pointless question but that's the only reason I started this thread. Whatever other angles people want to put on it, that's up to them.
Monaco as an f1 event = joke. Simples! IMO. Obviously all things are relative. If there was no other better circuit, it would be fantastic. But fact is there are loads better, all of them in fact. It's a shit place to have an F1 race. Dull boring precession.
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and cofirms a comment in one of my previous posts
your right. Shit attitude. I hate Monaco its crap...Happy now? ;D
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and cofirms a comment in one of my previous posts
your right. Shit attitude. I hate Monaco its crap...Happy now? ;D
:o :o Oh dear ???
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and cofirms a comment in one of my previous posts
your right. Shit attitude. I hate Monaco its crap...Happy now? ;D
:o :o Oh dear ???
guess not...? Dbug what do you want. ...? To take the opposite view no matter what I've posted...?
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and cofirms a comment in one of my previous posts
your right. Shit attitude. I hate Monaco its crap...Happy now? ;D
:o :o Oh dear ???
guess not...? Dbug what do you want. ...? To take the opposite view no matter what I've posted...?
Nothing other than for you to accept your views are not always right (this applies to everybody elses including mine), and be a little less pedantic in your posts (prosecution rests ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D - ???)
Won't post again on this - will conceed and let you have the last word Chris
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Well good for you. :y
Oh so that was your point. Ah I see. :)
No it wasn't but your attitude says it all and cofirms a comment in one of my previous posts
your right. Shit attitude. I hate Monaco its crap...Happy now? ;D
:o :o Oh dear ???
guess not...? Dbug what do you want. ...? To take the opposite view no matter what I've posted...?
Nothing other than for you to accept your views are not always right (this applies to everybody elses including mine), and be a little less pedantic in your posts (prosecution rests ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D - ???)
Won't post again on this - will conceed and let you have the last word Chris
What? ;D what ARE you on about?
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Guys.
Why not take it to PM's?
Then, when it all gets sticky, report the descent into shit slinging to the mod/admin team so that someone gets banned and we can then start a whole new fustercluck of fingerpointing, name calling, slagging and general pisstaking such that the world splits and takes sides and the admin team have yet another playground spat to ajudicate?
you get my gist....
ta...... ;)
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To be honest, I think the Monaco GP exists soley because it's run by the rich for the rich and it's the one weekend in the year they can all show off their wealth, expensive cars and boats full of tottie and champagne. Bernie wouldn't dare think about booting it off the F1 calender or he might find himself out of a job! ::) That said, it's obviously a big challenge for the drivers and you can understand why many of them enjoy it, but it's a crap
race procession for TV audiences. Mind you, I'd still like to go there just for the tottie experience. ::) :y
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Yeahp. Seems rather silly to me. :)