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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 01 June 2012, 09:52:16
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These things have seriously plummeted in value :o
GrandpaT have decided not to go for a camper now, looking at doing hotels/cottage hire which i think is great for them. Just started looking at something a bit more executive for them to drive around in, nice big comfy auto rather than 406 they have now.
Quite shocked, these were well above 10k last year, serious contender for Omega replacement at these values and falling values.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472766474/sort/default/usedcars/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/tw89de/quicksearch/true?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472766474/sort/default/usedcars/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/tw89de/quicksearch/true?logcode=p)
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That's a serious bit of kit for that money,must have been 40-50k new :o
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I like the interior. But as for the outside :( It just looks like a passat. Far to dull on the outside.
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Mr Tunnie. I really like the Phaeton. They are carved from granite, and will last a lifetime. Sadly they have an image problem, hence their paltry used value. The top model, the W12 LWB cost about £70,000 when new, which is a lot of dosh for a humble VW.
I'd tell the old boy to go for it.......but remember spares will be expensive, and the Phaeton is Huuuuuugggggeeee. ;)
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Oh, pscocoa is the man to talk to as he has one (a Phaeton). :y
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The 3.2 will be sluggish. I believe it crushes the scales to the tune of 2300 Kg.....It's a fat bastard.
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Depends what you pay for them - bought mine new for under £30k due to circumstances at a dealership.
Its list price was £46k and it has £5k of extras - I had the pick of the batch of 12 at the time and went for the full spare wheel option, sunroof, reversing camera etc. visually not everyone's cup of tea but it is really well built and the interior is far superior to Mercs at the same price judging from my visit to Mercedes Benz world where the £40 to £50k range interiors were a bit tacky I thought.
Fantastic car to drive with all sorts of toys, 3D sat nav, voice recognition built in bluetooth phone system (read texts), hard disc drive, video, 6 cd, SD card slot, ipod connection, touchscreen everything including suspension adjustment.
You buy one - you keep it. Like the Omega.
It will be 3 years old in December and has been great. Only issue was a recall on water pump which the UK VW dealer managed to mess up and it had to go back in.
The road tax is £460 now, but servicing and insurance are surprisingly quite low.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34956042/DSC05437.JPG)
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Depends what you pay for them - bought mine new for under £30k due to circumstances at a dealership.
Its list price was £46k and it has £5k of extras - I had the pick of the batch of 12 at the time and went for the full spare wheel option, sunroof, reversing camera etc. visually not everyone's cup of tea but it is really well built and the interior is far superior to Mercs at the same price judging from my visit to Mercedes Benz world where the £40 to £50k range interiors were a bit tacky I thought.
Fantastic car to drive with all sorts of toys, 3D sat nav, voice recognition built in bluetooth phone system (read texts), hard disc drive, video, 6 cd, SD card slot, ipod connection, touchscreen everything including suspension adjustment.
You buy one - you keep it. Like the Omega.
It will be 3 years old in December and has been great. Only issue was a recall on water pump which the UK VW dealer managed to mess up and it had to go back in.
The road tax is £460 now, but servicing and insurance are surprisingly quite low.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34956042/DSC05437.JPG)
Would I be right in thinking that the Phaeton is double-glazed, Mr P?
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I think it it is triple glazed - the GP0 and GP1s (basically models from 2003 to 2009) were - mine is a GP2 and I think they did make some cost savings - will check.
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I still like the A8
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I think it it is triple glazed - the GP0 and GP1s (basically models from 2003 to 2009) were - mine is a GP2 and I think they did make some cost savings - will check.
.....and has arguably the finset air-con system in the automotive world, I'm informed. :y
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Just got this info from one source - so maybe a question of guilding the lily
"The 'shatterproof' glass is actually laminated, ie two thicknesses of glass with a third thickness of adhesive in the middle, not actually triple glazed, and still not even 'double glazed' like the ads say, which implies an air gap between the two layers of glass."
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I still like the A8
Me too, but at these prices :o
Looks wise I quite like Phaeton, its not far off Omega really in terms of its style.
At these values, I would be looking to do own servicing. Looks like for around 10k you can get the a diesel, 3.0 lump.
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I still like the A8
Me too, but at these prices :o
Looks wise I quite like Phaeton, its not far off Omega really in terms of its style.
At these values, I would be looking to do own servicing. Looks like for around 10k you can get the a diesel, 3.0 lump.
I reckon that's the one to have,plenty of torque to handle the weight,I reckon the v10 knocker is a bit OTT especially if it goes wrong :-X
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Not that thirsty really either in petrol guise according to the spec's on Autotrader - I'd personally plump for the petrol version and look at LPG'ing it given the significant savings over the diesel-engined variants...
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as Opti mentioned , any serious repair will cost more than an arm and a leg.. if money is no concern, its ok..
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They are pretty reliable, certainly more reliable than an omega.
That Robsy has a lot to answer or you know. :)
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They are pretty reliable, certainly more reliable than an omega.
That Robsy has a lot to answer or you know. :)
if you measure their reliability with omegas , you are in trouble ;D
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Not that thirsty really either in petrol guise according to the spec's on Autotrader - I'd personally plump for the petrol version and look at LPG'ing it given the significant savings over the diesel-engined variants...
The 3.2 petrol is a thirsty car in the Golf, let alone the Phaeton, the 3.0 TDI I think is easily the pick of the bunch :y.
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Certainly have a good looking interior and well equipped. However they are still a VW and look very similar to the Passat :(
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They are pretty reliable, certainly more reliable than an omega.
That Robsy has a lot to answer or you know. :)
if you measure their reliability with omegas , you are in trouble ;D
Every single car I have owned has let me down once. And only once. By let down, I mean needing towing services, or has broken down at the roadside. The exception is TB1 where I managed to nurse it home. The one and only exception to this is TBE, but there is time yet ;D
So based on that, I don't think that teh Omega is unreliable. I would say it possibly needs more looking after though.
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Every single car I have owned has let me down once. And only once. By let down, I mean needing towing services, or has broken down at the roadside. The exception is TB1 where I managed to nurse it home. The one and only exception to this is TBE, but there is time yet ;D
So based on that, I don't think that teh Omega is unreliable. I would say it possibly needs more looking after though.
Only time I've ever failed to drive one of my cars home was when some retarded, useless bint in a Megane... Oh, there goes that vein in my forehead again. >:(
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They are pretty reliable, certainly more reliable than an omega.
That Robsy has a lot to answer or you know. :)
if you measure their reliability with omegas , you are in trouble ;D
Every single car I have owned has let me down once. And only once. By let down, I mean needing towing services, or has broken down at the roadside. The exception is TB1 where I managed to nurse it home. The one and only exception to this is TBE, but there is time yet ;D
So based on that, I don't think that teh Omega is unreliable. I would say it possibly needs more looking after though.
in all these years omega never let me down (except some scary engine temperatures climbing the mountains long years ago which was thermostat).. but I know how much is gone for it :-X
for the shopping trolley , nothing spent except cosmetic changes and its faultless even having more mileage than omega..
but must admit first owner for omega was a skimpy rich businessman >:( >:(
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This one lookes nice...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472433538/sort/default/usedcars/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/radius/60/page/1/postcode/po228bj?logcode=p
The right colour too :y
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Tunnie, definitely tell ya folks to go for it.
Seriously who would care about street credit in an executive car. Especially when you look at all the kit it's got.... it is effectively a Bentley Continental GT. I'd get one in a heart beat... and for that money :o :o :o :o
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This car represents the power of understatement. People often say they would like/prefer an A8 - but I simply would not buy one at the prices they want for nearly new. What's more you end up not getting an A8 because of the price and when a bargain alternative comes along you have to compromise in the interests of getting value for money. I paid not much more new for the Phaeton than I would for a new Insignia except in my case I was able to avoid £20k of depreciation - because the real "private" market for a new Phaeton was say £34k and not £46k and I did better because of fortuitous circumstances.
I have consistently maintained that this is overall a great replacement for Omega but it is expensive to run on fuel and tax but so would the Omega if it were still produced - they were £32k back in 2001/2/3 with all the bits and on a run do better than the 3.2 V6 certainly (37 mpg) for a 2.4 tonne car.
Used - some of them have massive miles in a short period of time so you have to be careful particularly the pre 2005 models because of parts changes and availability.
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This car represents the power of understatement. People often say they would like/prefer an A8 - but I simply would not buy one at the prices they want for nearly new. What's more you end up not getting an A8 because of the price and when a bargain alternative comes along you have to compromise in the interests of getting value for money. I paid not much more new for the Phaeton than I would for a new Insignia except in my case I was able to avoid £20k of depreciation - because the real "private" market for a new Phaeton was say £34k and not £46k and I did better because of fortuitous circumstances.
I have consistently maintained that this is overall a great replacement for Omega but it is expensive to run on fuel and tax but so would the Omega if it were still produced - they were £32k back in 2001/2/3 with all the bits and on a run do better than the 3.2 V6 certainly (37 mpg) for a 2.4 tonne car.
Used - some of them have massive miles in a short period of time so you have to be careful particularly the pre 2005 models because of parts changes and availability.
Well summed up PSC. What sort of return are you getting from the pumps? is it diesel or petrol? :) i think theyre gorgeous inside. a real nice place to be. i drove my mates passat the other day (on a 10 plate) and that looked similar but the phaeton looks great imo
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This car represents the power of understatement. People often say they would like/prefer an A8 - but I simply would not buy one at the prices they want for nearly new. What's more you end up not getting an A8 because of the price and when a bargain alternative comes along you have to compromise in the interests of getting value for money. I paid not much more new for the Phaeton than I would for a new Insignia except in my case I was able to avoid £20k of depreciation - because the real "private" market for a new Phaeton was say £34k and not £46k and I did better because of fortuitous circumstances.
I have consistently maintained that this is overall a great replacement for Omega but it is expensive to run on fuel and tax but so would the Omega if it were still produced - they were £32k back in 2001/2/3 with all the bits and on a run do better than the 3.2 V6 certainly (37 mpg) for a 2.4 tonne car.
Used - some of them have massive miles in a short period of time so you have to be careful particularly the pre 2005 models because of parts changes and availability.
Well summed up PSC. What sort of return are you getting from the pumps? is it diesel or petrol? :) i think theyre gorgeous inside. a real nice place to be. i drove my mates passat the other day (on a 10 plate) and that looked similar but the phaeton looks great imo
I only use if for motorway work and it does 37 mpg. The tank is 90 litres so it costs a packet to fill it.
It is a V6 3 litre diesel - 2 years servicing by dealer is about £450 to £500 if you pay in advance and includes MOT and other stuff. My next issue is whether to buy the extended warranty in December for £800 a year.
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This car represents the power of understatement. People often say they would like/prefer an A8 - but I simply would not buy one at the prices they want for nearly new. What's more you end up not getting an A8 because of the price and when a bargain alternative comes along you have to compromise in the interests of getting value for money. I paid not much more new for the Phaeton than I would for a new Insignia except in my case I was able to avoid £20k of depreciation - because the real "private" market for a new Phaeton was say £34k and not £46k and I did better because of fortuitous circumstances.
I have consistently maintained that this is overall a great replacement for Omega but it is expensive to run on fuel and tax but so would the Omega if it were still produced - they were £32k back in 2001/2/3 with all the bits and on a run do better than the 3.2 V6 certainly (37 mpg) for a 2.4 tonne car.
Used - some of them have massive miles in a short period of time so you have to be careful particularly the pre 2005 models because of parts changes and availability.
Well summed up PSC. What sort of return are you getting from the pumps? is it diesel or petrol? :) i think theyre gorgeous inside. a real nice place to be. i drove my mates passat the other day (on a 10 plate) and that looked similar but the phaeton looks great imo
I only use if for motorway work and it does 37 mpg. The tank is 90 litres so it costs a packet to fill it.
It is a V6 3 litre diesel - 2 years servicing by dealer is about £450 to £500 if you pay in advance and includes MOT and other stuff. My next issue is whether to buy the extended warranty in December for £800 a year.
Thats very impressive for a big car, given these prices, its a big contender now for a future replacement.
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90L tank :o :o :o :o
At my local garage (1.32L) thats £118.
Still, thats not a bad return at all. :y
Go for it Tunnster! :y
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This one lookes nice...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472433538/sort/default/usedcars/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/radius/60/page/1/postcode/po228bj?logcode=p
The right colour too :y
Wouldn't be paying £7K for a 157K motor ???
Should be able to get one for half that mileage for that money ???
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You're starting to see 08 plate Phaetons going at auctions for about £8000 now, granted with about 130,000 miles, but even still it's good value. It makes the 05 plate with 160k look poor value for money which it is. These suffer with horrific depreciation, as do most big cars now.