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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Markie on 10 April 2008, 12:47:29
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He stoops to a new low..
Int. Rates drop again - frankly its not enough to help the UK economy.
Bank of England cant/ wont drop it the amount needed as Brown wont let them ( dont believe that there Independant)
House prices fall but Brown says never mind they have risen for years and years and worse things happen at sea.....
We all know how he is screwing us omega drivers on car tax...
We all know the state of schools, policeing, NHS, roads, immigration.
So what does Brown do when we are needing a strrong leader ?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1312416,00.html
>:( pillock >:(
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"He's made a real pillock of himself - it's the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen."
;D ;D ;D
He made a bad enough balls up of things when he was in a cabinet position that DIDN'T require a personality. ::)
Kevin
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Shockin.
As much as i am up for helpin out the 3rd world countries surely charity needs to start at home.
I personally can see this country fallin to peaces and worse case sinario riots and military law. ( this is my opinion)
What can we do though? is there anyway out of this mess for them!
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Shockin.
As much as i am up for helpin out the 3rd world countries surely charity needs to start at home.
I personally can see this country fallin to peaces and worse case sinario riots and military law. ( this is my opinion)
What can we do though? is there anyway out of this mess for them!
Nope no way out and we are too far gone.....cant see the military running things - Brown has curbed spending on their kit/gear did he not... >:(
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Shockin.
As much as i am up for helpin out the 3rd world countries surely charity needs to start at home.
I personally can see this country fallin to peaces and worse case sinario riots and military law. ( this is my opinion)
What can we do though? is there anyway out of this mess for them!
It would appear that we can pull out all the stops to help other countries but not ours.
Remember when the canvassers call to ask for your vote in the forthcoming local elections, tell the Labour candidates what you think. And on polling day go and vote, don't just sit back, make the effort, vote for who you want, but remember all of the false broken promises Labour have made.I need not remind you of the dozens of stealth taxes that have been imposed on us, you can feel that in the purse/wallet/bank statement often enough.
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£100,000,000 in malaria blankets!!!!
How much does UK Astromony require? They were short recently
Quick question - how many Facelift Omegas were sold in the UK?
I want to work something out
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Shockin.
As much as i am up for helpin out the 3rd world countries surely charity needs to start at home.
I personally can see this country fallin to peaces and worse case sinario riots and military law. ( this is my opinion)
What can we do though? is there anyway out of this mess for them!
Nope no way out and we are too far gone.....cant see the military running things - Brown has curbed spending on their kit/gear did he not... >:(
That he has he cant keep cutting our budget else there will be no uk forces at this rate cos most of us will pull pin and leave.
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Shockin.
As much as i am up for helpin out the 3rd world countries surely charity needs to start at home.
I personally can see this country fallin to peaces and worse case sinario riots and military law. ( this is my opinion)
What can we do though? is there anyway out of this mess for them!
Nope no way out and we are too far gone.....cant see the military running things - Brown has curbed spending on their kit/gear did he not... >:(
That he has he cant keep cutting our budget else there will be no uk forces at this rate cos most of us will pull pin and leave.
I suspect that any government will have to cut all public service funding.....we cant keep borrowing cash at the rate we are....
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Jeezus, is there no end to this buffoon's incompetence!! :o
Looks like he's out to score a few more brownie points at our expense. >:( >:( >:(
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I suspect that any government will have to cut all public service funding.....we cant keep borrowing cash at the rate we are....
True. And this lot are STILL issuing soundbites that they will use additional government borrowing to dig us out of the current mess. Borrowing was the cause of the mess we're in. How can it be the solution?
We can expect some pretty dire public services if they do make cuts. They didn't appear to improve much while spending was on the up but they'll ratchet down to unbelieveable levels when their new-found levels of inefficiency meet with caps on budgets.
I reckon we're eventually in for a re-run of the downfall of Callaghan's Labour government in 1979.
Kevin
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I would suggest that people have a little read of this article
http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/03/national-debt-statistics-problem-of.html
As some may know, I keep a little eye on the big financial side of things.......and the above hits home just how big a mess we are all in.
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Why am I not surprised at this.
Who was that fiddled while Rome burnt ?
I no we want him out of office, but like someone on here said, I want them to face the music, be in power when it really hits the fan.
I have allways voted in every election I can, but I must say I don't want to vote this time. I can't stand any of them. It would appear to be replacing one criminal idiot with another.
Still undecided voter. >:(
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I would suggest that people have a little read of this article
http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/03/national-debt-statistics-problem-of.html
As some may know, I keep a little eye on the big financial side of things.......and the above hits home just how big a mess we are all in.
Some good reading there - i actually forgot about the mobile licences being sold off ( 3g licenses)
I know we paid several billion on ours and obviously the rest paid similar.....wonder where that (speculative) 20-25billion went ::)
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I would suggest that people have a little read of this article
http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/03/national-debt-statistics-problem-of.html
As some may know, I keep a little eye on the big financial side of things.......and the above hits home just how big a mess we are all in.
This put me into a cold sweat:
Last year the government spent £31 bn on interest payments alone.
Government borrowing for 2007/08 is forecast to be £42 billion
So, we're borrowing to pay the interest on our borrowing, plus a little beer money?
>:(
Kevin
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...yup
So basically Gordon Brown has a huge great big Credit Card called the UK Economy and each month he makes a payment thats just enough to cover the intrest >:( >:(
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I would suggest that people have a little read of this article
http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/03/national-debt-statistics-problem-of.html
As some may know, I keep a little eye on the big financial side of things.......and the above hits home just how big a mess we are all in.
This put me into a cold sweat:
Last year the government spent £31 bn on interest payments alone.
Government borrowing for 2007/08 is forecast to be £42 billion
So, we're borrowing to pay the interest on our borrowing, plus a little beer money?
>:(
Kevin
Yes, hence why I suspect they are VERY worried about the lack of cash for lending at the moment....
The graphs make interesting reading to, the net debt as a percentage of GDP at first glance sudgests taht in the 90's we were worse off but.....the GPD was about half what it is now......and what do we think might happen to GDP over the coming years...... :'(
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This is terrifying - could the UK go bankrupt?
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Worrying times ahead i fear :-/ >:(
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This is terrifying - could the UK go bankrupt?
Not whilst you have a means to service the debt.......and not given the current GDP and earning potential of the country.
But the availability of the levels of cash (mainly by a special type of bond generally) we are currently borrowing may dry up and hence big public spending cuts would be required..........or tax hikes!
So, who now thinks that this government has been economically strong.?
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So, who now thinks that this government has been economically strong.?
That piece of spin and all the "prudence" carp was just crafted to land Gordon the top job. Dunno why he wanted it. He's done bu663r all of note since he's had it.
.. and now we find outselves in autumn and the farmer appears to have forgotten to make any hay... :(
Kevin
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This is terrifying - could the UK go bankrupt?
Not whilst you have a means to service the debt.......and not given the current GDP and earning potential of the country.
But the availability of the levels of cash (mainly by a special type of bond generally) we are currently borrowing may dry up and hence big public spending cuts would be required..........or tax hikes!
So, who now thinks that this government has been economically strong.?
i never have thought so...not in amilion years.
The irony is that governments normally blame the previous rule...Labour cant really do that, and a chancellor may take a swipe at a previous chancellor - Darling cant do that ;D And the PM may reprimant his chancellor or monetary polices....and Gordy Boy cant do that..
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So, who now thinks that this government has been economically strong.?
That piece of spin and all the "prudence" carp was just crafted to land Gordon the top job. Dunno why he wanted it. He's done bu663r all of note since he's had it.
.. and now we find outselves in autumn and the farmer appears to have forgotten to make any hay... :(
Kevin
Do we have any of them left? A big part of my family are were farmers, two have sold up and left farming totally and one has sold up and moved to OZ. Very very soon we will have nothing left in this country except imigrants and massive debt >:( >:( >:(
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I want to know how much the morons are getting from the car tax changes on 2001 to 2006 F bands, Omegas alone.
Just wondering if it was £100,000,000
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When a Town Clerk, now called Chief Executive, can be paid £200,000 a year we are in trouble. The most worrying aspect of Marks economic article is the public sector pensions provision, a simple sum can work that problem out, take a senior nurse, planning officer or fireman, rising through the ranks and gaining promotions, or similar and follow this:
30 years working for their employer,
10 years at £30000 per annum
10 years at £40000 per annum
10 years at £50000 per annum
Total earned during their career £1.2m, 10% of their earnings paid into pension provision with the government, £120,000 in their pension pot, no growth as the money is used to pay current pensions for public servants. Retire at 55, normal life expectancy 72 years ( male ). 17 years at £7000 a year, or £140 a week, Add the index linking or final salary guarantees into this and the amount that we the taxpayer are liable for is likely to be double what the worker has paid in.Hence the massive black hole in the governments pension provision, £42bn and rising. The pensions should not be handled by the state, they should be done on the financial markets like everyone else, leaving the opportunity for growth and no state dependency.The working population is shrinking, good wage earners and companies are deserting the UK every day, leaving a higher burden for those who remain. I don't know what the solution is but public spending is out of control.
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to quote an advert on tv "its not looking good is it"
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So, who now thinks that this government has been economically strong.?
That piece of spin and all the "prudence" carp was just crafted to land Gordon the top job. Dunno why he wanted it. He's done bu663r all of note since he's had it.
.. and now we find outselves in autumn and the farmer appears to have forgotten to make any hay... :(
Kevin
Do we have any of them left? A big part of my family are were farmers, two have sold up and left farming totally and one has sold up and moved to OZ. Very very soon we will have nothing left in this country except imigrants and massive debt >:( >:( >:(
Probably had a compulsory purchase order slapped on them so they could build more houses for immigrants! >:(
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The pensions should not be handled by the state, they should be done on the financial markets like everyone else, leaving the opportunity for growth and no state dependency.
Precisely. What private business would get away with running a pension scheme without putting any "real" money in the pot? (OK, I know it's happened in the past - Maxwell, etc.).
Government are promising the earth to the public sector regarding pension provision without a clue where the money will come from.
When you're only serving in office for a relatively short term you can ignore the elephant in the corner. We'll be living here for substantially longer though (those of us who don't get fed up and emigrate).
Kevin
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On a more down to earth level......i find it worrying that the building societies have stopped lending each other money (probably due to Northern Rock) and mortgages are now harder to obtain!
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its a sad state of affairs when the people in charge are incompetent and self serving but totally oblivious to it. im moving to africa to get my free mosquito net cos ive got bugger all free in this country!!!