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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Thingymabob on 16 June 2012, 11:37:25

Title: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 16 June 2012, 11:37:25
Does anyone know if Klarius QH Wishbones are of good quality? When searching the web, I came across this this brand which claims to be of Qriginal Equipment Quality. The price is decent (slightly below £75 a pair, complete with front and rear bushes + ball joint, if I understand the German correctly  ???).
Could this be a good alternative to Lemforder/Meyle/Febi Bilstein?
http://www.rhoox.com/Ersatzteile-PKW/Achsaufhaengung/Radfuehrung/Raeder/Lenker/Lenkerlagerung/Lenker-%28Quer--Laengs--Schraeg-/Lenker-Radaufhaengung:::429451.html (http://www.rhoox.com/Ersatzteile-PKW/Achsaufhaengung/Radfuehrung/Raeder/Lenker/Lenkerlagerung/Lenker-%28Quer--Laengs--Schraeg-/Lenker-Radaufhaengung:::429451.html)
Title: Klarius QH / Quinton Hazell Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 16 June 2012, 15:17:29
I found the same wishbone at All German Parts, who is using the brand name Quinton Hazell,
anyone with experience from this manufacturer (when it comes to wishbones)?
http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2034041-Front-lower-suspension-control-arm-Left-QH-brand-QSA1648S.html (http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_2034041-Front-lower-suspension-control-arm-Left-QH-brand-QSA1648S.html)
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: YZ250 on 16 June 2012, 15:48:02
Same company I believe. Seem to recall a press release saying that Klarius bought out Quinton Hazell, hence the Klarius Quinton Hazell name tag. Happy to be proved wrong though.  :y

I can't comment on the quality though.  :-\

Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 16 June 2012, 16:01:31
Agree to that, Klarius QH = Quinton Hazel  :)

I'm very interested to hear if anyone knows about the quality of Klarius QH / Quinton Hazel as the price level is attractive.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: feeutfo on 16 June 2012, 18:55:27
No experience of these personally.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: bootie on 17 June 2012, 00:36:23
No experience of that particular part but over in Spain that is who they (Opel dealers) use for all their spare parts, this is considered OEM by them.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 17 June 2012, 13:43:38
Interesting to hear that this brand is considered OEM by Opel dealers in Spain.
Should mean that the quality is not the worst, I suppose?

Nobody here who has used Klarius QH/Quinton Hazel wisbones or has some kind of experience of this make?
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: flyer 0712 on 17 June 2012, 14:11:45
Partco used to be owned by Q.H.in the late 70s and early 1980s and made a complete range of steering..suspension...clutches...water pumps and loads more..we sold these for many years and their products were very good....good prices and good warranty....if that helps...
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Martian on 17 June 2012, 14:31:13
I've never used QH wishbones, but I've used plenty of other QH parts over the years and can't fault them.

When QH were just QH on their own they also offered a lifetime warranty on some parts, although I don't know if that still stands now they have merged with Klarius.

Lemforder seem to be quite well respected among the owners here, and as they are offering QH as a direct replacement then it seems logical that you won't be making a mistake if you do buy them.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: bootie on 17 June 2012, 15:07:00
The only comment I have to make regarding warranty on parts is that the Opel dealers standard is 2 years using those parts when fitted by them. Don't know about the lifetime bit.
In this day and age I would very much doubt it.

Jon
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Entwood on 17 June 2012, 15:22:20
I've never used QH wishbones, but I've used plenty of other QH parts over the years and can't fault them.

When QH were just QH on their own they also offered a lifetime warranty on some parts, although I don't know if that still stands now they have merged with Klarius.

Lemforder seem to be quite well respected among the owners here, and as they are offering QH as a direct replacement then it seems logical that you won't be making a mistake if you do buy them.

My recent experience is somewhat different ... :( 

Front wheel bearing failed whilst on Holiday in France, garage would only change both .. :(  QH units fitted at very high cost .... one didn't even last 2000 miles .. The Master found the problem at Newent, although it might have been faulty on fit ......

QH UK absolutely no help whatsoever ... informed me that the garage who fitted them were responsible for sorting the problem .. QH UK do NOT deal directly with public, only recognised garages as agents ....  :(

So I had a choice ... drive over 700 miles each way + ferry costs to have an argument in French or bite the bullet and change them myself..... did the latter with genuine VX parts ..... 

Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 18 June 2012, 16:42:56
Sorry to hear about your "French" QH experience Entwood :(, let's
hope it was a one-time incident and not representative for all QH parts :-\

The question remains; a pair of Lemförder at £165 (freight to Sweden included) or a pair
of Quinton Hazel (QH) at £85 (freight included as well)? Almost half the price, hmmm... ???
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 June 2012, 12:00:49
Or poly bushes for the fronts and new bushes on the rears of the existing wishbone?.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 19 June 2012, 16:46:39
Absolutely, I'm open to suggestions :y
Maybe this is a be a better way to go?

Any good suggestions where to buy parts (webshop) if I choose the
"poly bushes for the fronts and new bushes on the rears" alternative? :-\
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: feeutfo on 19 June 2012, 17:10:49
Powerflex on eBay for poly bushes.
Allgerman for reaward bushes, or dealer? Lemforder vx or Merle heavy duty.

IME though, the wishbone ball joints struggle to see out two sets of bushes before play sets in. So keep an eye out for that one.

Plus you need the resources to remove the old bushes, various hatchet tools will do to cut the fronts out, such as drills, hole cutters, jig saws etc.

Fitting poly is easy, and they are re useable.
Fitting the rear bush is a bit more tricky, as you need about a ton of pressure. Either via a press and suitable drifts, or more resourceful methods using a big vice, or one member made a threaded clamp to pull them in. They bush is easy to damage though.
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: Thingymabob on 19 June 2012, 19:38:12
Thanks for these tips :)

I have looked at the guides for replacing the wishbones and installing polybush and to me it seems
like it is a heavy duty and time consuming job to install polybush vs replacing the entire wishbones.

85 pounds for two complete QH wishbones still seems like good alternative to me.
What worries me a bit, is that nobody here seems to have any experience of this particular make when it comes to wishbones.

Considering that my average annual mileage with this car is not more than ~4000 miles, and that I am not 20 any
more (more of middle-age driving style nowadays) ;), I do believe it will be safe to go for a pair of Quinton Hazel.

Or... :-\  ;)
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: RobG on 19 June 2012, 19:45:25
Thanks for these tips :)

I have looked at the guides for replacing the wishbones and installing polybush and to me it seems
like it is a heavy duty and time consuming job to install polybush vs replacing the entire wishbones.

85 pounds for two complete QH wishbones still seems like good alternative to me.
What worries me a bit, is that nobody here seems to have any experience of this particular make when it comes to wishbones.

Considering that my average annual mileage with this car is not more than ~4000 miles, and that I am not 20 any
more (more of middle-age driving style nowadays) ;), I do believe it will be safe to go for a pair of Quinton Hazel.

Or... :-\  ;)
That`s what I`d do
Title: Re: Klarius QH Wishbones
Post by: jtypecav on 19 June 2012, 22:29:05
Had the QH ones on my gold MV6 for almost a year. Just as good as any other for the money. No problems to report and straight and true.