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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Elite Pete on 21 June 2012, 15:56:27
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I need to collect a car and have 2 options. Its got no MOT because its had a slight bump and has been written off, only damage is to the bumper and headlight. The cheapest option would be for me to get the train to pick it up taking a headlight with me, fitting the headlight then driving to the nearest MOT station for a test. If it fails am I legally ok to drive it home? Forgot to add its about 160 miles away ::)
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Nothing in the law states a distance, to be honest Pete I'd do it. A lot of people won't agree but, I would. You're legally covered taking a car away to a place of repair as well.
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Has it got no MOT because the old one has expired, or has it got no MOT because the old one has been invalidated, the car legally written off and marked as un-roadworthy and in need of a VIC check after the new MOT before being legal again?
I think the answer to that would make a big difference..
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Has it got no MOT because the old one has expired, or has it got no MOT because the old one has been invalidated, the car legally written off and marked as un-roadworthy and in need of a VIC check after the new MOT before being legal again?
I think the answer to that would make a big difference..
Its a Cat D so doesn't need a VIC check, its just run out ;)
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Then I suspect you'd be alright 'chancing your arm', so to speak ;)
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Book a mot near your place then drive it back :y
Just make sure your insured and get back well before dark ;)
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Does your insurance state it needs to have a valid MOT? :-\
Guess you could book it into your local MOT station and drive it back, depends who/if you get pulled over. :-\
160 miles is a bit far to chance it :(
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The other alternative is to tow it back but thats also illegal plus I can get the train for £24 which is a lot cheaper than fuel these days ;D
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The other alternative is to tow it back but thats also illegal plus I can get the train for £24 which is a lot cheaper than fuel these days ;D
have the regs changed?. i thought if you was on a solid bar you was ok?.
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The other alternative is to tow it back but thats also illegal plus I can get the train for £24 which is a lot cheaper than fuel these days ;D
have the regs changed?. i thought if you was on a solid bar you was ok?.
No MOT, so guessing not tax?
Was there not some rule where the wheels not must be touching the road? :-\
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The other alternative is to tow it back but thats also illegal plus I can get the train for £24 which is a lot cheaper than fuel these days ;D
have the regs changed?. i thought if you was on a solid bar you was ok?.
No MOT, so guessing not tax?
Was there not some rule where the wheels not must be touching the road? :-\
Yep, plus towing an Omega with an Omega is a no no as well even though i've done it loads of times but the more I do it the more chance I have of being caught and i've had a clean licence for over 25 years ::)
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If it's taxed and you've got insurance, I'd drive it home, even if it fails, you're covered, it doesn't mention distance from what I can see, so it's not illegal, if it's not illegal, you can't in trouble for it :).
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If it's taxed and you've got insurance, I'd drive it home, even if it fails, you're covered, it doesn't mention distance from what I can see, so it's not illegal, if it's not illegal, you ant in trouble for it :).
No tax either ::) but i've got a beer mat I can put in the window ;D
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I think this question has been asked before Pete, there is no set rule that states how far you can drive the car to the Pre-booked MOT station. But that said IF, (and I'm playing devils advocate here) you have a RTC and regardless of whos fault it was, the car you were driving was seized for examination and found to be substandard in any way you could end up in trouble. Only stating this as I've seen it happen first hand very recently in fact - Car travelling from Warrington to whitehaven & had a bump, brakes failed ::) . Must admit though this had been off the road for a while.
On the other hand if you take it to the nearest MOT station when you pick it up and it fails you're snookered as well!
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If it's taxed and you've got insurance, I'd drive it home, even if it fails, you're covered, it doesn't mention distance from what I can see, so it's not illegal, if it's not illegal, you ant in trouble for it :).
No tax either ::) but i've got a beer mat I can put in the window ;D
I think the no tax is the bigger problem. They can remove the vehicle from you, if not currently taxed, whereas MOT they can just twist your ear a bit.
Get it MOT'd, and I'm happy to drive it back on Trade Plates for you. Then it's all perfectly legal :y
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Or you can put another road legal Omegas plates on it to take out the ANPR threat but that is entering a whole new realm of taking the piss. Some of the car transporter guys on Shiply will do a reasonable quote if they are on a return journey just to get some fuel money back, worth a no obligation quote!!
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Is this the one you are planning to break ?? Getting it MOT'd just to break seems a tad extreme !! ... unless this is a keeper and the bits to fix it are coming off the breaker ... :)
Josh's very kind offer seems to be about the most legal ... :)
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Personally I'd chance it!!! Prob best to go when roads r busy and you'll blend in better :y :y
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If it's taxed and you've got insurance, I'd drive it home, even if it fails, you're covered, it doesn't mention distance from what I can see, so it's not illegal, if it's not illegal, you ant in trouble for it :).
No tax either ::) but i've got a beer mat I can put in the window ;D
I think the no tax is the bigger problem. They can remove the vehicle from you, if not currently taxed, whereas MOT they can just twist your ear a bit.
Get it MOT'd, and I'm happy to drive it back on Trade Plates for you. Then it's all perfectly legal :y
Does it need an MOT if on Trade Plates?
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If it's taxed and you've got insurance, I'd drive it home, even if it fails, you're covered, it doesn't mention distance from what I can see, so it's not illegal, if it's not illegal, you ant in trouble for it :).
No tax either ::) but i've got a beer mat I can put in the window ;D
I think the no tax is the bigger problem. They can remove the vehicle from you, if not currently taxed, whereas MOT they can just twist your ear a bit.
Get it MOT'd, and I'm happy to drive it back on Trade Plates for you. Then it's all perfectly legal :y
Does it need an MOT if on Trade Plates?
All vehicles need an MOT ... unless on their way to/from a test. Trade plates only give you cover for Road Fund Licence (Tax) :)
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Entwood is 100% correct, Trade Plates remove the need for the vehicles to have its own tax. They are effectively portable tax discs for my use or anyone I employ. T Plates do not exempt from MOT. Strangely 90% of the police officers I speak to think they also count for MOT aswell.
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Not much chance of getting a "tug" on Trade plates . . only my opinion though :-\ :-\
Josh . . you ever been pulled on "Trades" ?
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Entwood is 100% correct, Trade Plates remove the need for the vehicles to have its own tax. They are effectively portable tax discs for my use or anyone I employ. T Plates do not exempt from MOT. Strangely 90% of the police officers I speak to think they also count for MOT aswell.
I didn't know that. I test drove my daughter's car on the trader's Trade Plates, and the car was out of MOT ??? ???
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Not much chance of getting a "tug" on Trade plates . . only my opinion though :-\ :-\
Josh . . you ever been pulled on "Trades" ?
Al, when I'm driving locally I never get stopped. I know most of the local officers well, they recognise my trade plates.
It is quite rare, I can count on one hand the times I've been stopped and it's always been to ask about the trade plates.
Officers can be very understanding if on a demonstration drive. One of them apologised for the distress to the 'test driver' asked me just to confirm who I was, and off he went.
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Entwood is 100% correct, Trade Plates remove the need for the vehicles to have its own tax. They are effectively portable tax discs for my use or anyone I employ. T Plates do not exempt from MOT. Strangely 90% of the police officers I speak to think they also count for MOT aswell.
I didn't know that. I test drove my daughter's car on the trader's Trade Plates, and the car was out of MOT ??? ???
Most people don't know tbh Andy. I know I can get away with no MOT driving with T plates. But there's always that part of me that know's it's not actually legal, and as clearly I need my driving licence and I am now officially to become a magistrate, I must ensure everything is always done properly.
Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops?
He was the one who knew all about HGV driving, trailers etc, the need to have tacho if towing for a business etc?
It just takes a police officer who is very good at his job, and there you are - caught!
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Entwood is 100% correct, Trade Plates remove the need for the vehicles to have its own tax. They are effectively portable tax discs for my use or anyone I employ. T Plates do not exempt from MOT. Strangely 90% of the police officers I speak to think they also count for MOT aswell.
I didn't know that. I test drove my daughter's car on the trader's Trade Plates, and the car was out of MOT ??? ???
Most people don't know tbh Andy. I know I can get away with no MOT driving with T plates. But there's always that part of me that know's it's not actually legal, and as clearly I need my driving licence and I am now officially to become a magistrate, I must ensure everything is always done properly.
Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops?
He was the one who knew all about HGV driving, trailers etc, the need to have tacho if towing for a business etc?
It just takes a police officer who is very good at his job, and there you are - caught!
Completely "off topic" .... many congratulations :y :y :y You've done well to get through all the selection procedures.... now the hassle starts !!! :)
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Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops? ......
He was the obnoxious short arse tw@ with a huge chip on his shoulder wasn't he! ::) ::)
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Entwood is 100% correct, Trade Plates remove the need for the vehicles to have its own tax. They are effectively portable tax discs for my use or anyone I employ. T Plates do not exempt from MOT. Strangely 90% of the police officers I speak to think they also count for MOT aswell.
I didn't know that. I test drove my daughter's car on the trader's Trade Plates, and the car was out of MOT ??? ???
Most people don't know tbh Andy. I know I can get away with no MOT driving with T plates. But there's always that part of me that know's it's not actually legal, and as clearly I need my driving licence and I am now officially to become a magistrate, I must ensure everything is always done properly.
Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops?
He was the one who knew all about HGV driving, trailers etc, the need to have tacho if towing for a business etc?
It just takes a police officer who is very good at his job, and there you are - caught!
Completely "off topic" .... many congratulations :y :y :y You've done well to get through all the selection procedures.... now the hassle starts !!! :)
Thank you Nige :y
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Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops? ......
He was the obnoxious short arse tw@ with a huge chip on his shoulder wasn't he! ::) ::)
;D maybe you should try and get pulled over by him so you can tell him :D
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My MOT place keeps telling me that neither tax nor insurance is needed if on way to/from MOT.
dunno how true that is.
http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/information/InfoCentre/ItemDetails.aspx?sid=3059 (http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/information/InfoCentre/ItemDetails.aspx?sid=3059) says it is legal
for a PRE-BOOKED mot test
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Does anyone remember PC Angus Nearn (incorrect spelling of last name I think) who was on Traffic Cops? ......
He was the obnoxious short arse tw@ with a huge chip on his shoulder wasn't he! ::) ::)
;D maybe you should try and get pulled over by him so you can tell him :D
He can, I (rarely ::)) speed these days, especially when towing & everything else is perfectly in order. :y :y The last copper to pull me over when in SWMBO's Smart was that short I was still looking down on him even though I was stood on the road & he was on the pavement! .......... another with a carrying chip & hiding behind a badge!
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My MOT place keeps telling me that neither tax nor insurance is needed if on way to/from MOT.
dunno how true that is.
Even if your car has nothing else when going for its MOT, your must have insurance to be legal on the road.
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My MOT place keeps telling me that neither tax nor insurance is needed if on way to/from MOT.
dunno how true that is.
Totally incorrect. If the car is untaxed and SORN then ..
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/motoring/owningavehicle/untaxedvehicle/dg_069727
Driving to an MOT test when a SORN is in place
You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station provided you have adequate insurance cover in place for that vehicle.
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sorry. tax or *MOT*.
Insurance IS neccessary
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Thanks for the offer Josh :y :y
The car will be insured. My thinking was, if I take it for an MOT it may pass, if it doesn't at least i've tried to make it legal and i'm only driving it home from an MOT which I believe is legal as there's no distance stipulated. As for the Road tax, I will have a receipt for the purchase plus I can't tax it until i've mot'd and it might have just failed its MOT and i'm on my back from the test, albeit 160 miles ::) ::)
Just to add, if it fails on anything major I will have to leave it at Nige's ;D ;D
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Thanks for the offer Josh :y :y
The car will be insured. My thinking was, if I take it for an MOT it may pass, if it doesn't at least i've tried to make it legal and i'm only driving it home from an MOT which I believe is legal as there's no distance stipulated. As for the Road tax, I will have a receipt for the purchase plus I can't tax it until i've mot'd and it might have just failed its MOT and i'm on my back from the test, albeit 160 miles ::) ::)
Just to add, if it fails on anything major I will have to leave it at Nige's ;D ;D
I'm sure something could be arranged ! I'm guessing it's from around here then ... if you need a coffee or owt else .. just shout out . :) (I also know a very reasonable MOT place .... he won't pass anything stupid, but he's not overly pedantic either ... :) )
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just get RAC to tow it home or where ever :)
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Book an MoT near your place for 13.00 on a Saturday, get the train down first thing Saturday morning and drive it back for the test. Pass or fail no matter as you can't tax it before Monday morning ::)
If it's a breaker, simply Sorn it first thing on Monday, might even be able to do on line :-\ if it's a keeper/doer upper, tax it, again first thing Monday :y
Drove my second MK2 Granada from Eastbourne to Horsham via an MoT, which it failed ::) then drove it back and forth for two weeks between retests and welding :)
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Thanks for the offer Josh :y :y
The car will be insured. My thinking was, if I take it for an MOT it may pass, if it doesn't at least i've tried to make it legal and i'm only driving it home from an MOT which I believe is legal as there's no distance stipulated. As for the Road tax, I will have a receipt for the purchase plus I can't tax it until i've mot'd and it might have just failed its MOT and i'm on my back from the test, albeit 160 miles ::) ::)
Just to add, if it fails on anything major I will have to leave it at Nige's ;D ;D
I'm sure something could be arranged ! I'm guessing it's from around here then ... if you need a coffee or owt else .. just shout out . :) (I also know a very reasonable MOT place .... he won't pass anything stupid, but he's not overly pedantic either ... :) )
It's in Westbury Nige :y
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Thanks for the offer Josh :y :y
The car will be insured. My thinking was, if I take it for an MOT it may pass, if it doesn't at least i've tried to make it legal and i'm only driving it home from an MOT which I believe is legal as there's no distance stipulated. As for the Road tax, I will have a receipt for the purchase plus I can't tax it until i've mot'd and it might have just failed its MOT and i'm on my back from the test, albeit 160 miles ::) ::)
Just to add, if it fails on anything major I will have to leave it at Nige's ;D ;D
I'm sure something could be arranged ! I'm guessing it's from around here then ... if you need a coffee or owt else .. just shout out . :) (I also know a very reasonable MOT place .... he won't pass anything stupid, but he's not overly pedantic either ... :) )
It's in Westbury Nige :y
You'll probably go almost past the door then .. If I can do anything to assist just yell out :)
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Thanks for the offer Josh :y :y
The car will be insured. My thinking was, if I take it for an MOT it may pass, if it doesn't at least i've tried to make it legal and i'm only driving it home from an MOT which I believe is legal as there's no distance stipulated. As for the Road tax, I will have a receipt for the purchase plus I can't tax it until i've mot'd and it might have just failed its MOT and i'm on my back from the test, albeit 160 miles ::) ::)
Just to add, if it fails on anything major I will have to leave it at Nige's ;D ;D
I'm sure something could be arranged ! I'm guessing it's from around here then ... if you need a coffee or owt else .. just shout out . :) (I also know a very reasonable MOT place .... he won't pass anything stupid, but he's not overly pedantic either ... :) )
It's in Westbury Nige :y
You'll probably go almost past the door then .. If I can do anything to assist just yell out :)
Cheers Nige, your a gent :y
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Just found out after paying for the car that its MOTd until December so the only thing missing will be RFL :y
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Made it back with no problems, only thing is, I now know that my 2.2 DTi is well down on power compared to this one :(
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Made it back with no problems, only thing is, I now know that my 2.2 DTi is well down on power compared to this one :(
Does your's still have its cat internal's,perhaps the one you've bought doesn't ???
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Made it back with no problems, only thing is, I now know that my 2.2 DTi is well down on power compared to this one :(
Does your's still have its cat internal's,perhaps the one you've bought doesn't ???
Mines not boosting properly, sometimes it does but most of the time the turbo might as well not be there :(