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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 30 June 2012, 16:32:31
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Seem to be a bargain , has anyone owned one ...a lot of car for the money and lots of toys :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RANGEROVER-V8-AUTO-SILVER-SUPERCHARGED-may-P-X-please-read-on-/120939590157?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c288fb20d
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Yep. A lot of car for the money, but I've never really been into the Range Rooney. ::) ;)
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Yep. A lot of car for the money, but I've never really been into the Range Rooney. ::) ;)
Didnt realise any of them had a supercharger , thought they were all turbo's :)
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Yep. A lot of car for the money, but I've never really been into the Range Rooney. ::) ;)
Didnt realise any of them had a supercharger , thought they were all turbo's :)
The 5 litre RR that uses the same engine as the Jag is supercharged. :y
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I'm on my third Supercharged RR now, they are the AJV8 Jag engine with a supercharger, produces 396bhp and goes incredibly well. MPG hovers around 16, as high as 26 and as low as 6mpg. They are capable of high mileage too, I've seen one with just over 200,000 miles. If you want to LPG one you will need flashlube or to change the valve seats. One guy had his LPG'd and the engine lasted 8,000 without either of the above being done.
The supercharged came in with the facelift from VIN 6A onwards, which is '05' plate at the oldest, most are '55' plate onwards.
I've found mine to be reliable, they have the usual gremlins like Omega's, suspension can be a weak point, but much much better than the P38a.
If you're not too far from me, come over and try one out :y
Bluetooth phone, reversing camera, heated steering wheel, touch screen sat nav, and plenty of other pointless bits and pieces.
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I'm on my third Supercharged RR now, they are the AJV8 Jag engine with a supercharger, produces 396bhp and goes incredibly well. MPG hovers around 16, as high as 26 and as low as 6mpg. They are capable of high mileage too, I've seen one with just over 200,000 miles. If you want to LPG one you will need flashlube or to change the valve seats. One guy had his LPG'd and the engine lasted 8,000 without either of the above being done.
The supercharged came in with the facelift from VIN 6A onwards, which is '05' plate at the oldest, most are '55' plate onwards.
I've found mine to be reliable, they have the usual gremlins like Omega's, suspension can be a weak point, but much much better than the P38a.
If you're not too far from me, come over and try one out :y
Bluetooth phone, reversing camera, heated steering wheel, touch screen sat nav, and plenty of other pointless bits and pieces.
Very useful information joshwyatt , any figures on the lpg consumption and many thanks for that offer to try one out . There seems to be quite a lot for sale just looking on one particular auction site , i often wondered why similar looking petrol versions sounded very different when passing so guess the supercharger ones are the ones that bark and growl a bit more than the turbo ones :y
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Not aware of any non-diesel RR having a turbo. Supercharged or N/A for petrols.
As joshwyatt says, suspension can be expensive when it need work, and lots of electric gremlins creep in.
Might be 400bhp, but bear in mind it weighs more than a tank, and is as aerodynamic as a brick. So its not a sports car. But its not a slouch either. I'd have one if it wasn't for the fuel...
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I'm on my third Supercharged RR now, they are the AJV8 Jag engine with a supercharger, produces 396bhp and goes incredibly well. MPG hovers around 16, as high as 26 and as low as 6mpg. They are capable of high mileage too, I've seen one with just over 200,000 miles. If you want to LPG one you will need flashlube or to change the valve seats. One guy had his LPG'd and the engine lasted 8,000 without either of the above being done.
The supercharged came in with the facelift from VIN 6A onwards, which is '05' plate at the oldest, most are '55' plate onwards.
I've found mine to be reliable, they have the usual gremlins like Omega's, suspension can be a weak point, but much much better than the P38a.
If you're not too far from me, come over and try one out :y
Bluetooth phone, reversing camera, heated steering wheel, touch screen sat nav, and plenty of other pointless bits and pieces.
Very useful information joshwyatt , any figures on the lpg consumption and many thanks for that offer to try one out . There seems to be quite a lot for sale just looking on one particular auction site , i often wondered why similar looking petrol versions sounded very different when passing so guess the supercharger ones are the ones that bark and growl a bit more than the turbo ones :y
LPG generally saves around a third of fuel costs. So work out your costs based on (in reality) 14-18mpg (unless lots of motorway driving), then take a third off.
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Without being too boring, here's a short L322 history.
L322 is the code for the 'new shape' RR's.
Introduced early 2002, few of the test and press cars are '51' plate, but retail one's are '02' plate onwards.
Engines available then were the M62 BMW 4.4 V8 with 282nhp as used in the 5 series etc and tbhe 3.0 TD6 engine, again another BMW unit, in the RR it produces 177bhp. It is too slow for the size of vehicles. They all had 5 speed auto's fitted. You can get 'SE', 'HSE' and 'Vogue' spec. SE's are best avoided, have no sunroof, xenon's, parking sensors, suprisingly poosyl equipped. HSE's are ok, typically don't have sunroof and sat nav as STD, but there are one's out there. Vogue at the time was the range topper, better seats, better leather, leather dash roll.
Then they changed from VIN 6A to the facelift model with the addition of the Vogue SE model.
Engines were a 4.4 V8 from Jaguar and not BMW, this one produces 302bhp and is better than the BMW unit which is prone to coolant leaks. The TD6 unit stayed until '56' plate with the old 5 speed gearbox. The Jag V8 and Supercharged one's got a nice 6 speed gearbox.
The supercharged one's are based on the Vogue SE so are top spec. The vin then changed to 7A from around '56' plate with yet more revisons, different interior and controls and the introduction of the 3.6 TDV8 engine, then the latest version with 4.4 TDV8.
Be careful for people who have facelifted older one's and are trying to pass them off as facelifts. In an ideal world whichever engine you choose, try and go for a VIN 6A onwards. Supercharged one's can be had from as little as £8,300 which isn't bad consdiering they were £75,000 plus 7 years ago.
If you need any help, just let me know :y
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Without being too boring, here's a short L322 history.
L322 is the code for the 'new shape' RR's.
Introduced early 2002, few of the test and press cars are '51' plate, but retail one's are '02' plate onwards.
Engines available then were the M62 BMW 4.4 V8 with 282nhp as used in the 5 series etc and tbhe 3.0 TD6 engine, again another BMW unit, in the RR it produces 177bhp. It is too slow for the size of vehicles. They all had 5 speed auto's fitted. You can get 'SE', 'HSE' and 'Vogue' spec. SE's are best avoided, have no sunroof, xenon's, parking sensors, suprisingly poosyl equipped. HSE's are ok, typically don't have sunroof and sat nav as STD, but there are one's out there. Vogue at the time was the range topper, better seats, better leather, leather dash roll.
Then they changed from VIN 6A to the facelift model with the addition of the Vogue SE model.
Engines were a 4.4 V8 from Jaguar and not BMW, this one produces 302bhp and is better than the BMW unit which is prone to coolant leaks. The TD6 unit stayed until '56' plate with the old 5 speed gearbox. The Jag V8 and Supercharged one's got a nice 6 speed gearbox.
The supercharged one's are based on the Vogue SE so are top spec. The vin then changed to 7A from around '56' plate with yet more revisons, different interior and controls and the introduction of the 3.6 TDV8 engine, then the latest version with 4.4 TDV8.
Be careful for people who have facelifted older one's and are trying to pass them off as facelifts. In an ideal world whichever engine you choose, try and go for a VIN 6A onwards. Supercharged one's can be had from as little as £8,300 which isn't bad consdiering they were £75,000 plus 7 years ago.
If you need any help, just let me know :y
I noticed the price difference/depreciation :)
Bargains to be had :y
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I like Rangies. Being a a classic lover my favourite is the original 3.5 carb 2 dr...early 70's but they're all nice motors. I'm no expert but a mate had a lovely red M plate soft dash a while ago. This was originally fitted with air suspension but had been retro changed to shocks & coil overs which many owners seem to prefer as it's more straight foward & cheaper.
Not sure if you can retro change this model but it might be worth enquiring as i've hears the air set up can be troublesome & costly. Guy. :y
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the one to aviod is the p 38...it wont be fuel that bankrupts you ...it will be repair bills....if its not air suspension/abs/over heating...it will be the b!"£$%^d not starting electrics are a known weak spot...which is a shame as there are lots on the market and are quite reasonable :y
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Morning all,
Had my P38 4.6 for six years. I've replaced the exhaust and tyres. I also replaced all the air bags because they were over 10 years old (recommend to be changed at 7 years) cost me £400.
Will be looking at a L322 (possibly supercharged) when the time is right.
Steve
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Morning all,
Had my P38 4.6 for six years. I've replaced the exhaust and tyres. I also replaced all the air bags because they were over 10 years old (recommend to be changed at 7 years) cost me £400.
Will be looking at a L322 (possibly supercharged) when the time is right.
Steve
They can be reliable if looked after. Silly electrical gremlins tend to affect many, usually easily solved. And rot. Boy do they rot.
But with preventative maintenence, and a bit of TLC, no reason why they should not be a good workhorse :y
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Morning all,
Had my P38 4.6 for six years. I've replaced the exhaust and tyres. I also replaced all the air bags because they were over 10 years old (recommend to be changed at 7 years) cost me £400.
Will be looking at a L322 (possibly supercharged) when the time is right.
Steve
They can be reliable if looked after. Silly electrical gremlins tend to affect many, usually easily solved. And rot. Boy do they rot.
But with preventative maintenence, and a bit of TLC, no reason why they should not be a good workhorse :y
Ive heard the older ones rot but didnt realise the newer ones did , where are we talking rot issues ..chassis rails maybe :-\
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Morning all,
Had my P38 4.6 for six years. I've replaced the exhaust and tyres. I also replaced all the air bags because they were over 10 years old (recommend to be changed at 7 years) cost me £400.
Will be looking at a L322 (possibly supercharged) when the time is right.
Steve
They can be reliable if looked after. Silly electrical gremlins tend to affect many, usually easily solved. And rot. Boy do they rot.
But with preventative maintenence, and a bit of TLC, no reason why they should not be a good workhorse :y
Ive heard the older ones rot but didnt realise the newer ones did , where are we talking rot issues ..chassis rails maybe :-\
Still seem to suffer IME. Not as bad as the Classics. Possibly the people I know who had them used them for their intended purpose, and gave them a hard life...
...which brings me on to transfer boxes. P38s do like to wreck their transfer boxes. I'm lead to believe the L322 is better in this respect, but only time will tell....
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I seriously considered one a couple of months back - it's a fantastic place to sit in, the interior is really something else.
Three things put me off :-
the tax amount.
the fact that you'll look like a footballer/chav ( take your pick )
and the toys that would wind me up, like auto-moving mirrors when you select reverse, park-assist and all the other lard that has absolutely nothing to do with driving
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....and I've changed three auto gearboxes for owners of early L322s now....
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....and I've changed three auto gearboxes for owners of early L322s now....
Did the early ones have the chocolate Ford box in, as fitted to the Jags of the era?