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Title: EU question
Post by: STMO123 on 18 July 2012, 17:21:34
Just been hearing (on France 24) that the French govt will only help peugot financially if certain guarantees are met.
I thought it was against EU rules to bail out your own companies. Unfair competition and all that. Non?
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 July 2012, 17:23:23
I though it was against EU rules to observe EU rules.. Unless you happen to be in the UK. >:(
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 July 2012, 17:37:01
something "wong" with my eyes today I start to see double :D ;D :y
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: albitz on 18 July 2012, 17:38:38
Alzhiemers Old timers disease. ;) ;D
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: STMO123 on 18 July 2012, 17:46:56
My phone, unlike me, has a mind of it's own. :)
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 July 2012, 18:25:09
I suppose it could be said that those who view such moves as being the means by which member states will be obliged to attend to their own crises on a unilateral basis thus stressing the very notion (and reality) of the Single Market – one of the corner-stones of the EU doctrine – may well be rubbing their hands in hopeful glee of what may come.
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: Nickbat on 18 July 2012, 18:32:07
I was reading Dan Hannan's blog today and he touched on the way EU laws work:

"...everyone in Brussels accepts that the bailouts were illegal – not simply in the sense of not being provided for in the rules, but in the sense of being expressly prohibited. When challenged on this point, Commission officials airily declare that ‘the facts are ahead of the legislation’..."

There you go.  ;)
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: Rods2 on 18 July 2012, 18:33:08
The French have got not obeying any EU laws down to a fine art. Government subsidies for industry is illegal under the EU unfair competition rules.

However:

1. EU grants are available for all manner of development, especially if your proposal has 'eco' in the title. So say Ford, GM, Fiat, VW, BMW and Mercedes, Renault and Peugeot all apply for grants to develop 'eco' friendly electric car technology and also more 'eco' friendly materials for use in the manufacture of motor vehicles. Then the French officials in charge in Brussels will then appraise the proposals to decide which offers the best value for money and then award them to Renault and Peugeot.

2. Regional development grants can be used to entice and keep industries in areas of unemployment. With high unemployment all over France, just take your pick of an industry and area.

3. Governments grants can be available for the development of new technologies with any EU company being able to apply. Just replace EU with Government in item 1 above for the French system.

4. If none of the above apply then the French Government gives the French company the money and will justify it afterwards to the EU. The French Officials at the EU may force the company to pay a token amount back, if there are many complaints about unfair competition from your competitors. Item 4 is particularly effective in an election year if your company has supplied the right sized brown envelopes of the right thickness to the winning parties election campaign.

As you can see everything is above board and transparent in French and EU politics and grants procedures. This is also why the UK gets the least grants, Le Roast Boufs, getting back EU money, Sacre Bleu, we only let them in so they could be the second biggest net contributor to the EU budget, don't make a French EU official choke on his morning coffee and croissants by suggesting any different.

Vote UKIP
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: STMO123 on 18 July 2012, 18:48:21
The French have got not obeying any EU laws down to a fine art. Government subsidies for industry is illegal under the EU unfair competition rules.

However:

1. EU grants are available for all manner of development, especially if your proposal has 'eco' in the title. So say Ford, GM, Fiat, VW, BMW and Mercedes, Renault and Peugeot all apply for grants to develop 'eco' friendly electric car technology and also more 'eco' friendly materials for use in the manufacture of motor vehicles. Then the French officials in charge in Brussels will then appraise the proposals to decide which offers the best value for money and then award them to Renault and Peugeot.

2. Regional development grants can be used to entice and keep industries in areas of unemployment. With high unemployment all over France, just take your pick of an industry and area.

3. Governments grants can be available for the development of new technologies with any EU company being able to apply. Just replace EU with Government in item 1 above for the French system.

4. If none of the above apply then the French Government gives the French company the money and will justify it afterwards to the EU. The French Officials at the EU may force the company to pay a token amount back, if there are many complaints about unfair competition from your competitors. Item 4 is particularly effective in an election year if your company has supplied the right sized brown envelopes of the right thickness to the winning parties election campaign.

As you can see everything is above board and transparent in French and EU politics and grants procedures. This is also why the UK gets the least grants, Le Roast Boufs, getting back EU money, Sacre Bleu, we only let them in so they could be the second biggest net contributor to the EU budget, don't make a French EU official choke on his morning coffee and croissants by suggesting any different.

Vote UKIP

Thanks Rod. I knew they wouldn't be doing anything wrong. :y ;D
Title: Re: EU question
Post by: STMO123 on 25 July 2012, 15:36:48
The French have got not obeying any EU laws down to a fine art. Government subsidies for industry is illegal under the EU unfair competition rules.

However:

1. EU grants are available for all manner of development, especially if your proposal has 'eco' in the title. So say Ford, GM, Fiat, VW, BMW and Mercedes, Renault and Peugeot all apply for grants to develop 'eco' friendly electric car technology and also more 'eco' friendly materials for use in the manufacture of motor vehicles. Then the French officials in charge in Brussels will then appraise the proposals to decide which offers the best value for money and then award them to Renault and Peugeot.

2. Regional development grants can be used to entice and keep industries in areas of unemployment. With high unemployment all over France, just take your pick of an industry and area.

3. Governments grants can be available for the development of new technologies with any EU company being able to apply. Just replace EU with Government in item 1 above for the French system.

4. If none of the above apply then the French Government gives the French company the money and will justify it afterwards to the EU. The French Officials at the EU may force the company to pay a token amount back, if there are many complaints about unfair competition from your competitors. Item 4 is particularly effective in an election year if your company has supplied the right sized brown envelopes of the right thickness to the winning parties election campaign.

As you can see everything is above board and transparent in French and EU politics and grants procedures. This is also why the UK gets the least grants, Le Roast Boufs, getting back EU money, Sacre Bleu, we only let them in so they could be the second biggest net contributor to the EU budget, don't make a French EU official choke on his morning coffee and croissants by suggesting any different.

Vote UKIP

Well done Rods. Respect. The French government has just announced help for the auto industry to develop environmentally friendly cars. :y