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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: richardirv on 14 April 2008, 09:16:10
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I have been involved in a few threads regarding LPG and I was thinking of saving up to get it done!
Someone I know works for Evans Halshaw in and has been working on vauxhalls since it was Brown & Whites donkeys years ago! I told him the other day I was thinking about the LPG and he cringed, told me not to bother! He said they are ok out the factory but if not run from new there can be problems! especially on the V6.
As you can imagine I am now not quite sure what to do, I know that loads of you guys have either had it fitted or done it yourself and all seem happy!
What are you supposed to believe? People who fix them everyday and have done for 25 years or people who own and run them, and also have massive experience in maintaining them!
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What kind of problems what he referring to?
There can be problems with anything, but it's mainly down to the quality of workmanship. A conversion that's done well will not cause any issues at all however if it's bodged it can open a can of worms.
Kevin
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He didn't really go into much detail just said that if not run from new on LPG the V6's don't really like it!
I think it may be because he see's it on a daily basis. It just puts doubt in the back of your mind though!
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Hmm. I don't buy stories of the engine not being "used" to LPG. The engine is a collection of bits of metal after all. I doubt its' memory is that good. ;)
On a serious note, plenty of members are running V6s on LPG and I don't recall hearing of an LPG related problem. Do your homework and choose carefully and you'll be fine. Don't be swayed by installers who say they can do it in a day. It takes time to convert one properly.
You could always DIY, of course. That's one way to ensure it's done to your satisfaction.
Kevin
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Yeah totally agree, will have to see, gonna be ages b4 I can even start saving for LPG! :'(
Cheers though bud! :y
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Go for it. I had a 96 2.5 CD estate which when I sold it had 250,000 miles on the clock, 180,000 was done on LPG with no problems at all :y
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About 20,000 on LPG on this car - no problems except the low quality valve seals fitted to early DBW engines >:( And this is nothing to do with the LPG kit
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About 20,000 on LPG on this car - no problems except the low quality valve seals fitted to early DBW engines >:( And this is nothing to do with the LPG kit
what does that mean? Forgive me if this is summat obvious
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Drive By Wire :y
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And the Omega V6 was never offered as duel fuel.
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Drive By Wire :y
Oh!! well it wasn't that obvious so I don't feel too dumb!! hehe
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And the Omega V6 was never offered as duel fuel.
Was it not! Surprising! was it just the 2.2's
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Dont think ive seen a factory fit on an Omega but I could be wrong, but ive seen quite a few Astras and Vectras.
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It seems that there was, on the 2ltr CD & CDX
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/vauxhall/omega-saloon-1994.aspx?page=7
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Its safe to say you could get problems with any car/engine if the kit isn't fitted to a standard.
I have seen some really bad installs, there have been a few members on here that have suffered as well at the hands of so called 'experts'
I did mine DIY, any issues i had i created.....and then solved, the install was discreet and when it was at the dealers once it was asked it this was a factory fitment.
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Its safe to say you could get problems with any car/engine if the kit isn't fitted to a standard.
I have seen some really bad installs, there have been a few members on here that have suffered as well at the hands of so called 'experts'
I did mine DIY, any issues i had i created.....and then solved, the install was discreet and when it was at the dealers once it was asked it this was a factory fitment.
MIne is too you can hardly tell. when you open the bonnet all you can see is the injectors! (thanks to kev and james.) the filler is on the towbar and the tank is where the spare wheel used to live. :)
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I only wish I had the knowledge to be able to do it myself! but it aint ever gonna happen!!
Don't u bother with a spare wheel then Marie? and slightly confused why the filler cap would be on the towbar! :-/
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I don't believe a word he says!!!
The Koltec/Necam kit that Vauxhall used as a "Factory Fit" is absolutely c**p!! Have a look at this forum and search for Vauxhall!
http://www.lpgforum.co.uk/
As an aside, most so called Factory Fit systems are in fact aftermarket systems, they just happen to be installed before the car is delivered!
If you want to go for LPG then do it... Your guy sounds like he's scaremongering. He probably isn't even LPG trained!! The after sales support on factory fit systems is very poor!
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I only wish I had the knowledge to be able to do it myself! but it aint ever gonna happen!!
Don't u bother with a spare wheel then Marie? and slightly confused why the filler cap would be on the towbar! :-/
i have the spare wheel in the boot!
The filler went on the towbar for ease as we would have had to punch a hole i the side of the car which i was not happy with. with the filler on the towbar you dont notice its lpg. it looks like a towbar bit.
i didnt have a clue about lpg but with the right help its easy enough. would never do a conversion in a weekend again though! and i am sure kev will agree with me on that! ;D ;D ;D
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It's probably the case that mechanics get to hate LPG cars just because there are a couple of extra pipes and wires that they don't understand under the bonnet. They only see that side, not the cheap fuel.
Kevin
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LPG still has a lot of rumours surrounding it, the motor trade are still not entirely comfortable woith it for a number of reasons.
The additional pipework being one, as Keving has said people don't like working around something like an extra set of injectors.
The most ridiculous reason for not working on a LPG powered car was that the garage were not CORGI approved ;D
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That is rediculous. What have dogs got to do with it? ;D
Kevin
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That is rediculous. What have dogs got to do with it? ;D
Kevin
lmao thats a good one. ;D ;D ;D
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That is rediculous. What have dogs got to do with it? ;D
Kevin
LOL ;D ;D ;D
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I only wish I had the knowledge to be able to do it myself! but it aint ever gonna happen!!
Don't u bother with a spare wheel then Marie? and slightly confused why the filler cap would be on the towbar! :-/
i have the spare wheel in the boot!
The filler went on the towbar for ease as we would have had to punch a hole i the side of the car which i was not happy with. with the filler on the towbar you dont notice its lpg. it looks like a towbar bit.
i didnt have a clue about lpg but with the right help its easy enough. would never do a conversion in a weekend again though! and i am sure kev will agree with me on that! ;D ;D ;D
Thats fair enough that, I don't think i would like a big hole putting in mine but I'm sure if its done right it should be a problem!!
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I only wish I had the knowledge to be able to do it myself! but it aint ever gonna happen!!
Don't u bother with a spare wheel then Marie? and slightly confused why the filler cap would be on the towbar! :-/
i have the spare wheel in the boot!
The filler went on the towbar for ease as we would have had to punch a hole i the side of the car which i was not happy with. with the filler on the towbar you dont notice its lpg. it looks like a towbar bit.
i didnt have a clue about lpg but with the right help its easy enough. would never do a conversion in a weekend again though! and i am sure kev will agree with me on that! ;D ;D ;D
Mine is on the towbar - I expect James mentioned it.
I have 12N 12S on the left and LPG filler on the right
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We only had 2 options with the estate really. Bolt it to the tow bar or punch a hole in a body panel. There's nowhere on the bumper that you could get away with it.
Kevin
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The towbar option is easy, and also discrete - only a pain at BP at Okehampton as that is my only refill place between Worcestershire and Cornwall.
Get the angle OK and I can get it in without uncoupling
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We only had 2 options with the estate really. Bolt it to the tow bar or punch a hole in a body panel. There's nowhere on the bumper that you could get away with it.
Kevin
This was due to the main frame of the car being in the way.
looks good now though. :)