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Title: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 30 July 2012, 17:06:25
Hi All,
Found some un-attached wires in the NSR space behind the light cluster
How do I post pictures of them as want to know what they are for?
Ian
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 30 July 2012, 17:31:29
See the sticky at the top of Newbie Section for how to post pics :)

Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Andy B on 30 July 2012, 18:19:29
Hi All,
Found some un-attached wires in the NSR space behind the light cluster
How do I post pictures of them as want to know what they are for?
Ian

Reversing sensors is my guess ........  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 30 July 2012, 18:21:22
Hi All,
Found some un-attached wires in the NSR space behind the light cluster
How do I post pictures of them as want to know what they are for?
Ian

Reversing sensors is my guess ........  :-\ :-\
We don't know until we see it, who knows who's been in there butchering...
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Andy B on 30 July 2012, 18:29:35
.....
We don't know until we see it, who knows who's been in there butchering...

Obviously ...... & I'm assuming the wiring was factory installed. I did say I was guessing!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 30 July 2012, 18:30:50
.....
We don't know until we see it, who knows who's been in there butchering...

Obviously ...... & I'm assuming the wiring was factory installed. I did say I was guessing!  :y :y :y
Trouble is, being an estate, theres a good chance its had a pikey bar on. Thus all bets are off ;)
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 30 July 2012, 19:43:07
Thanks for help with posting pics :)

Here are the pics of the wires
Any help welcome

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Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 30 July 2012, 20:47:51
reversing sensor loom
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Andy B on 30 July 2012, 20:50:20
reversing sensor loom

I won ....................  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 30 July 2012, 20:54:52
OK,
As I have reversing sensor and they work and these wires are not attached to anything any further suggestions?
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 30 July 2012, 20:56:53
Thats fine :y
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 05 August 2012, 15:07:36
Hi,
My apologies for not asking the right question about these wires.
I am trying to understand how to turn off the parking sensors when I am towing.
I understand that these wires are part of the parking sensor system but I do not know what I need to do to achieve this.
Any help gratefully received.
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 05 August 2012, 15:53:31
Hi,
My apologies for not asking the right question about these wires.
I am trying to understand how to turn off the parking sensors when I am towing.
I understand that these wires are part of the parking sensor system but I do not know what I need to do to achieve this.
Any help gratefully received.
If the towbar has been correctly wired, I'm sure this should disable parking sensors?


//edit: just checked, it does.
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 05 August 2012, 16:16:13
thanks but it is not a factory fitted towbar.
any suggestions please :)
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 05 August 2012, 16:19:34
thanks but it is not a factory fitted towbar.
any suggestions please :)
Get the idiots who fitted towbar to do it properly :P

Unplug the ECU when towing? Fit an inline switch?  All these are manual options, whereas the car loom is designed to take this into effect, disabling fog lights, reversing lights and parking sensors when something is plugged into the towing electrics.
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: adey2 on 05 August 2012, 16:22:34
prob there is tb is lots of these fast fit towbar companies havent a clue, mines just as bad but stereo on louder has become a common override or take kids sweets off them so they scream
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 05 August 2012, 16:24:42
prob there is tb is lots of these fast fit towbar companies havent a clue, mines just as bad but stereo on louder has become a common override or take kids sweets off them so they scream
Fit an inline switch on the Red wire from reversing lights to the Park Pilot ECU.

I bet the idiots used scotchlocks as well  >:(
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: adey2 on 05 August 2012, 16:28:00
be just my luck to forget to turn back on and missis will give me a insurance claim as she puts towbar through someones radiator whilst reversing in asda
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 05 August 2012, 16:29:05
be just my luck to forget to turn back on and missis will give me a insurance claim as she puts towbar through someones radiator whilst reversing in asda
You could try to fix the wiring that the cowboys did, but from memory, it needs a different socket.
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 05 August 2012, 16:31:03
Thanks for the suggestion but the tow bar was fitted when i brought the car.
Is the correct/factory electrics available?
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Lazydocker on 05 August 2012, 16:33:06
Just to throw a spanner in the works... Surely if those wires pictured aren't connected to anything the OP doesn't have Park Pilot fitted and they're aftermarket too :-\ ???
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: adey2 on 05 August 2012, 16:33:34
i will do when i get round to that end of car, got to remove towbar at some point to fit washers to the fixings as idiots used a hole cutter to drop inserts through to chassis so the boot floortakes none of the load and towbar twists, could be a interesting fix
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Lazydocker on 05 August 2012, 16:40:04
i will do when i get round to that end of car, got to remove towbar at some point to fit washers to the fixings as idiots used a hole cutter to drop inserts through to chassis so the boot floortakes none of the load and towbar twists, could be a interesting fix

They should drill a hole large enough for the inserts only and there should be a spreader plate over the top ;)
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: adey2 on 05 August 2012, 16:42:30
yeah but the inserts should be sandwiched between the floor and chassis rails, mine can be dropped in the top hole and fall out the bottom
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Lazydocker on 05 August 2012, 16:58:18
yeah but the inserts should be sandwiched between the floor and chassis rails, mine can be dropped in the top hole and fall out the bottom

Ahh... I understand what you mean now :-[ ::)
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 05 August 2012, 17:10:52
Just to throw a spanner in the works... Surely if those wires pictured aren't connected to anything the OP doesn't have Park Pilot fitted and they're aftermarket too :-\ ???
Why do you think they are not connected  :-\
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: Lazydocker on 05 August 2012, 23:18:41
Just to throw a spanner in the works... Surely if those wires pictured aren't connected to anything the OP doesn't have Park Pilot fitted and they're aftermarket too :-\ ???
Why do you think they are not connected  :-\
That's how I read the first post ;)
Hi All,
Found some un-attached wires in the NSR space behind the light cluster
How do I post pictures of them as want to know what they are for?
Ian

Could be wrong though ???
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 06 August 2012, 20:17:00
Update,
Spoke to local Vauxhall dealer and electrics available to disable fog lights and parking sensors :)
ONLY £320.00 + Vat as comes as complete set with tow bar :(

Not going down this route!
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 06 August 2012, 20:22:17
Update,
Spoke to local Vauxhall dealer and electrics available to disable fog lights and parking sensors :)
ONLY £320.00 + Vat as comes as complete set with tow bar :(

Not going down this route!
Grim :(

Looks like you're looking at inline switch as previously suggested...  ...or turn radio up ;D


Shame whoever fitted the towbar saved a few quid going pattern.
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 06 August 2012, 20:28:51
Yes very grim.

As suggested in line switch, will have a look again at wiring and wiring diagram at weekend!
Not easy though as colours on wiring diagram do not match whats on my car.

I know I should not have started this but its not going to get the better of me :)
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: TheBoy on 06 August 2012, 21:15:47
The required red you'll find near the ecu
Title: Re: Unknown wires
Post by: m.ian on 16 September 2012, 09:40:02
Up Date
Fitted a relay onto the parking sensors speaker wires and wired up the spare pins in the auxiliary socket on the caravan
All works fine and no sound when reversing with caravan attached.
A VERY HAPPY ME  :) :) :) :)