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Title: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 07 August 2012, 17:58:46
been having a look around on the net at various cars,so the short list is

jeep grand cherokee
astra convertible on a 02 plate
astra coupe
volvo c70 coupe
toyota celice 1.8 vvt

just need some advice if any1 has owned any of these  :y     
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: aaronjb on 07 August 2012, 18:06:35
Haven't owned the Celica but did have an MR2 Roadster with the same engine for many years - assuming you are looking at the 1ZZ-FE equipped 140hp VVTi cars rather than the 2ZZ-GE equipped 190hp VVTL-i cars.. so any engine related questions, fire away. (AFAIK the rest of the car is pretty sturdy, based on the ownership experiences of a couple of colleagues)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 07 August 2012, 18:14:04
i am looking at the 140 engine,had a several toyota's in the past,is it timing chain on the 140 and belt on the 190??
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: horsecow on 07 August 2012, 18:23:51
Had a 2.2 astra coupe before my mig. Absolutely loved it, very fast and nippy. Brilliant handling, lovely and solid in the bends, fuel economy about the same as my mig, avg 31mpg overall. Very comfy seats as well. Had a celica as well, nice car but I preferred the astra tbh
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: aaronjb on 07 August 2012, 18:25:49
i am looking at the 140 engine,had a several toyota's in the past,is it timing chain on the 140 and belt on the 190??

Chain on both w/ long service life - I only know of a couple of engines well past 150k that have needed chain & chain guide doing, though the O-ring around the chain tensioner retaining cover commonly weeps oil and needs a quick bodge with a smear of RTV - easy on the MR2, bit of a pain on the Celica as it's round the firewall side.

Generally pretty bulletproof but look out for high oil consumption on pre 2003 engines, later engines have revised oil control rings & pistons to combat this.

The 190 - especially earlier engines - had a reputation for 'eating' their lift bolts, but that's a feature specific to the "L" part of VVTL-i, so not an issue on the 140 engines :)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 07 August 2012, 18:32:47
great thanks for the advice,i shall be taking my time to look got till end of month once car has gone,seen a few nice 1's on the bay and on autotrader,got a tight budget tho but in not bothered about mileage as i only do around 4000 a year
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: Gaffers on 07 August 2012, 18:37:32
aren't most of those vehicles FWD?

Some nice Jags on Autotrader for around a grand ::)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 07 August 2012, 18:41:47
no dont want a jag :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: aaronjb on 07 August 2012, 18:56:24
Some nice Jags on Autotrader for around a grand ::)

Probably all rust buckets, though ;)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: mantahatch on 07 August 2012, 18:57:39
been having a look around on the net at various cars,so the short list is

jeep grand cherokee
astra convertible on a 02 plate
astra coupe
volvo c70 coupe
toyota celice 1.8 vvt

just need some advice if any1 has owned any of these  :y   

My father has an Astra 2.2 auto convertible  about 2003 (cherished plate) it has full electric roof, one push does everything, folds away nicely under the rear cover. Nice car, and someone told me the Astra Gs have galvanised bodies but I have not been able to confirm it, but not seen any rusty ones, except for accident damage. 2.2 has cam chain and they do break. We are changing his tomorrow. Advice I have had is if you can do a V6 cambelt the the chain is easy. He has had it about 6 months with no problems.

The Volvo Coupe is a fine looking car, allways liked them. I had the Volvo S40 T4 200bhp, It was very good but did not look as good as the coupe.   
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: TheBoy on 07 August 2012, 19:21:44
OP, as per forum guidelines, can you try to stop using text speak on the public site. Cheers :y :)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: Vamps on 07 August 2012, 20:54:50
been having a look around on the net at various cars,so the short list is

jeep grand cherokee
astra convertible on a 02 plate
astra coupe
volvo c70 coupe
toyota celice 1.8 vvt

just need some advice if any1 has owned any of these  :y   

That was my choice 11 months ago, expecting snow but did not get :'( :'(  we still have one Mig though.... :y :y

Be warned, they are very different drives though...... :D :D
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 07 August 2012, 21:40:52
stick with the omega :y :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: feeutfo on 07 August 2012, 21:44:56
Lexus is300
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 August 2012, 21:48:51
dont know what your budget is but if i was getting a new car (nowhere near yet as happy with the old girl) but i'd get a phaeton
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: feeutfo on 07 August 2012, 21:53:19
Oh don't get me wrong, there is only one replacement for the omega, and that's a vxr8, naturally.

But in keeping with the short list presented earlier, the Lexus ticks a good majority of the omegas boxes. Not all, but most. :)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 07 August 2012, 22:27:09
dont know what your budget is but if i was getting a new car (nowhere near yet as happy with the old girl) but i'd get a phaeton

As in one of them there torpedoes the Enterprise has but never do any damage?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 07 August 2012, 22:48:51
Dont know if you spotted this one martin ....not far from you  :y

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-COUPE-CONVERTIBLE-BLUE-/230832517507?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35beb0b183
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: thebaldeagle on 10 August 2012, 17:16:24
we actually sold our astra 1.8 convertible to fund purchase of the mv6 ;D
not an awful lot of difference fuel cunsumption wise tbh,maybe 3 or 4 miles to the gallon diff.
Did enjoy the 2 yrs of ownership,but there were reasons for getting a bigger car..Grandchildren lol"
Looking back now,i doubt i could go back to something smaller and less powerful than the mig..Had a go in friends clit 1.4 the other day,couldnt wait to get back in our mig  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: jonnyboyws6 on 10 August 2012, 18:03:54
For the Celica, I'd go for a 190. An extra 50hp that kicks in the instant you hit "lift" or no difference in economy if you keep the revs down. As already stated, pre face 140s suffer with oil burning problems, 190s don't. Fitting the revised lift bolts is, literally, nuts and bolts mechanics assuming they haven't already snapped. 
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: Keith ABS on 11 August 2012, 09:07:18
   After being used to the space of a mig, i would go with the Volvo, even though I do try to stick with GM as my first choice for transport.
Keith B
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 12 August 2012, 19:57:00
thanks for the advice guys,been looking long and hard and the short list is growing into a long list,still got a couple off weeks to look on the net and local garages around here.
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 13 August 2012, 07:59:21
B'hell cant believe the price of this one but know nothing about the merc ....nice alternative if its reliable enough though  :)
Have it gas converted martin  :-\
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-MERCEDES-CLK430-V8-AVANTGARDE-FACELIFT-SAT-NAV-CONVERTIBLE-CABRIOLET-/130744882397?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e710094dd
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: ngrainqey on 13 August 2012, 17:47:26
if you go for the volvo and it's petrol then if its around 2001-2003/4 then they have throttle problems regarding magnetti marelli shite throttle potentiometres which used carbon or something which is prone to wear and causing issues, it wont cause out of control acceleration but if it's always driven about half throttle then it'll wear more there so when moving the throttle about that point it'd sort of jump so you'd get light throttle then quite heavy throttle - its the "ETM" issue where the volvo dealers replaced them with a contribution from the customer - has a yellow sticker on the throttle body if its been replaced but wether said sticker will be black covered in oil or if its peeled off is another matter but something to look out for, also if its about that age then unlock and lock a few times as sometimes door lock solenoids go so the pin stays up or pops back up after locking on the fob
another issue - not sure if i affected the C70's but axle ping, everybody swaps the driveshaft bolts for the XC90 bolts which have a rubber cone but theres another way to correct the fault which i never found out what it is lol!
also if its turbo then watch out for "reduced engine performance" under heavy load which chances are is split intercooler

yes i've listed a few possible issues but i had 3 S60's in a row so ended up knowing quite alot about volvos :P i only had the axle ping issue which was about a £30 fix from local volvo dealers and a torque wrench so i suppose i did quite well regarding reliability :)
HTH
Alex
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 23 August 2012, 23:55:33
im going to be looking at a car 2moro and if its any good il be putting a deposit down on it and also if i get it at the price i want lol,its a seat leon 1.8 turbo sport,wasnt a car i had in mind but i like it  ;D
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 24 August 2012, 10:12:32
im going to be looking at a car 2moro and if its any good il be putting a deposit down on it and also if i get it at the price i want lol,its a seat leon 1.8 turbo sport,wasnt a car i had in mind but i like it  ;D

Nice looking motor  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 24 August 2012, 12:44:50
it was ok,but engine check light was on and wouldnt hold it till the 3rd with a deposit put down,walked away from it
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 24 August 2012, 15:25:27
it was ok,but engine check light was on and wouldnt hold it till the 3rd with a deposit put down,walked away from it

Not a good sign , oh well your search continues .... got a 3.0 if you want it  ;D

This ones a cracker ... low mileage as well  :y :y :y http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MAZDA-MX-5-BLUE-2-Door-Convertable-Low-Milage-/251136946019?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a78edaf63
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 24 August 2012, 16:39:33
got to be a bit practical,need to put all my plumbing tools in it aswell for when i do my own work lol  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 24 August 2012, 17:38:10
got to be a bit practical,need to put all my plumbing tools in it aswell for when i do my own work lol  :y

Sorry mate i thought you mentioned you were after a soft top , if you were maybe thats a bit too small  ;D :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 25 August 2012, 15:15:53
deposit down on the replacement car,seat leon 1.8 turbo,black,full leather interior x reg so cheaper car tax,9 mths mot and 3mths tax for £750  :y
this was not a car i had even thought of buying till a couple of days ago  :)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 25 August 2012, 15:37:28
deposit down on the replacement car,seat leon 1.8 turbo,black,full leather interior x reg so cheaper car tax,9 mths mot and 3mths tax for £750  :y
this was not a car i had even thought of buying till a couple of days ago  :)

Nice one , should be a bit more economical than the 2.6 also  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 25 August 2012, 15:43:08
umm in theory yes but its going to get some mods done to it and a remap to 240 bhp when i get the time to get it booked in  :y
here is the link to it
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261085651181?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2648#ht_1354wt_1186
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 25 August 2012, 16:00:21
Must say that looks very clean , and some nice toys included .... now your going to have to use another foot for driving  ;)
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 25 August 2012, 16:03:52
i know shame they dont do that model in an auto lol,insurance is a bit cheaper and also the road tax is aswell  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 25 August 2012, 16:09:01
When you going to be thrashing it picking it up .... pop over when you can , will be nice to see ...  :y
Anyways glad you got sorted ...
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 25 August 2012, 16:16:03
possibly next weekend all depending which day the mv6 gets picked up,if not it will either the 3rd or 4th
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: RobG on 25 August 2012, 16:31:35
umm in theory yes but its going to get some mods done to it and a remap to 240 bhp when i get the time to get it booked in  :y
here is the link to it
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261085651181?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2648#ht_1354wt_1186
Thought the seller would close the listing with a deposit down ???
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 25 August 2012, 16:49:26
the owner is still at work at the moment  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 25 August 2012, 20:03:09
umm in theory yes but its going to get some mods done to it and a remap to 240 bhp when i get the time to get it booked in  :y
here is the link to it
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261085651181?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2648#ht_1354wt_1186

Supercharger  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 27 August 2012, 16:27:20
some people seriously take the piss,got a call yesterday to say some1 had been to view the car and brought it,luckily i got deposit back tho,not happy  :(
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 27 August 2012, 18:58:19
some people seriously take the piss,got a call yesterday to say some1 had been to view the car and brought it,luckily i got deposit back tho,not happy  :(

Barstewarts  :(
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: The Red Baron on 27 August 2012, 19:07:46
some people seriously take the piss,got a call yesterday to say some1 had been to view the car and brought it,luckily i got deposit back tho,not happy  :(
too right, so much putting a depostit down.
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 27 August 2012, 20:23:06
it was the only car i found in my budget that  i liked with leather,oh well the search continues lol
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 29 August 2012, 18:36:06
train ticket brought and insurance sorted out,picking up a seat leon cupra 1.8t on wednesday  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: omega3000 on 29 August 2012, 20:30:58
Remember you have 3 pedals now ... dont burn that turbo out  :y
Title: Re: replacment for the mv6
Post by: martin42 on 29 August 2012, 20:33:54
always drive a 3 pedal van lol,this will just have so much more power and torque :)