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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 08 August 2012, 12:44:50
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...such as this for example.
http://www.motorama.com.au/view.php/new/new_hsv/clubsport/2012_HSV_Clubsport_E3_MY12_R8_Tourer_V8_6_Speed_Auto_Active_Sequential_4door_Wagon/939522/
I asked on the hsv forum, and Mr Monkfish replied the easiest way is to Get Vauxhall to import. Based on the thinking that the Tourer (estate) is not officially imported.(it may be, I don't know for sure)
That's all well and good, but I don't particularly like the the new GTS model. I prefer the old vxr8 shape. Which means buying used, say 07 on. And as there are no tourer vxr8's in the uk afaik, that means importing used, which I don't think vx will do.
So just to be clear, what's the costs of importing a used vxr8 estate equivelant(it will be called something else in Oz) to the uk... ? :-\
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
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I have imported from the states and it does cost but i think aus is more expensive :)
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Like this Chris
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2008-Holden-Special-Vehicles-Clubsport-E-Series-MY08-U-R8-Tourer-White-6sp-/380458947395?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item58951ed343#ht_2645wt_1139
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
COULD be be even more fun if they want too crash test it...good bye new car :'(....TBH they are doing that qiute a bit at the moment
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Like this Chris
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2008-Holden-Special-Vehicles-Clubsport-E-Series-MY08-U-R8-Tourer-White-6sp-/380458947395?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item58951ed343#ht_2645wt_1139
Yep, in a black though. :)
Although that's £32,400. Plus importing.
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Like this Chris
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2008-Holden-Special-Vehicles-Clubsport-E-Series-MY08-U-R8-Tourer-White-6sp-/380458947395?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item58951ed343#ht_2645wt_1139
Yep, in a black though. :)
Although that's £32,400. Plus importing.
Looks a mighty fine motor. I'd go for one in white :) Someone on HSV.org did a photoshop of a Monaro in white, it looked bloody beautiful :-* :-* :-* :-* 8)
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This might help......
http://www.alastair-mcpherson.com/HSV_files/HSV%20pages/HSVImport.htm
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
COULD be be even more fun if they want too crash test it...good bye new car :'(....TBH they are doing that qiute a bit at the moment
Crash testing? :o Not at IVA. I have the manual somewhere. All common sense stuff, and I doubt much would need doing to pass it.
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The Crown Vic needed add on rear fog lights, side repeaters and rear orange repeaters...I was having it done for someone else, so unfortunately I didn't pay too much attention, but it wasn't too difficult.
I would have suspected the car you're after Chris has all the above anyway so it'd just be a paper work excercise.
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I would think your right Josh tbh.
Other option, if the mountain won't come to Mohamed, is to move to Oz. :-\
;D
Actually who do we know.... :-X
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I would think your right Josh tbh.
Other option, if the mountain won't come to Mohamed, is to move to Oz. :-\
;D
Actually who do we know.... :-X
Hmmmm :-X :-X ::) ::)
It's on the list of potential cars, although it'll be a few years before spending that kind of money (if it happens ;))
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you have the following costs.....
currency conversion
ro-ro ( about £2500 )
tax...
UK import duty - 10%
VAT
both levied on how much the revenue thinks it's worth, not what you paid for it
then there's IVA, but we can hold your hand through that - I was on the DfT working party that set it up.
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I was having a bit of a browse through the Australian ebay site last night and was surprised at how expensive decent cars are over there... :-\
I've been hearing from friends living there that everything has got really expensive in the last few years, and Sterling isn't as strong as it was, but I still found it surprising! :-\
I quite liked the idea of importing something like the Holden Caprice that I linked in the other thread.... But that Caprice worked out at £14000 + say £3000 for importing costs and you've paid out £17000 for a 5 year old car! :o
Hey Ho a run of the mill 2 year old 5 series Beemer it is then!! ::) Although I'll probably hang on to The Mig and keep dreaming!!! ;D ;)
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Afaict, used cars in ANY other country are more expensive than here, and as all the nearest countries have the stearing wheel on the wrong side, we have to go even further afield to get uk spec imports.
The sums will never ever add up. But even so, I still "just want one" !
Trouble is, I'd have to sell almost everything I own to afford one. Bikes cars the lot. :(
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Afaict, used cars in ANY other country are more expensive than here, and as all the nearest countries have the stearing wheel on the wrong side, we have to go even further afield to get uk spec imports.
The sums will never ever add up. But even so, I still "just want one" !
Trouble is, I'd have to sell almost everything I own to afford one. Bikes cars the lot. :(
Chris, at the end of the day its just a car.. a second hand m3 or m5 will be cheaper , easier and I guarantee you wont be any slower than what you want.. :y
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Afaict, used cars in ANY other country are more expensive than here, and as all the nearest countries have the stearing wheel on the wrong side, we have to go even further afield to get uk spec imports.
The sums will never ever add up. But even so, I still "just want one" !
Trouble is, I'd have to sell almost everything I own to afford one. Bikes cars the lot. :(
Chris, at the end of the day its just a car.. a second hand m3 or m5 will be cheaper , easier and I guarantee you wont be any slower than what you want.. :y
cem, your so not funny. ;D Any BMW will not be on my list of desired cars. Ever! ;D
List of desired cars takes no account of price, availability, or common sense. As said, and as the hsv slogan, I just want one.
It's not realistic, so the omega remains top of the list. Seemples. ;)
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have a look at this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77)
comparing with the prices here cheap as chips ;D ( around 30k£ approx)
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have a look at this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77)
comparing with the prices here cheap as chips ;D ( around 30k£ approx)
...a box of matches for it? ;)
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And it's gay, and the ride is way too crashy, as all msports are.
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have a look at this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-M3-E46-CONVERTIBLE-ESTORIL-BLUE-MANUAL-68000-MILES-FACELIFT-FSH-/261079780727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc9914d77)
comparing with the prices here cheap as chips ;D ( around 30k£ approx)
...a box of matches for it? ;)
ok.. if you dont like it I'll take ;D
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how about this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1)
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how about this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1)
ramming one of those shit piles out of the way from the third lane is on my bucket list. ;)
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how about this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-BMW-e39-M5-MOONSTONE-SILVER-/251120192433?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a77ee0bb1)
ramming one of those shit piles out of the way from the third lane is on my bucket list. ;)
have you driven one ?
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
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honestly if m3 prices here were as low as UK, I would be driving an M3 without doubt.. :-\
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I'm with you Chris on hating BMW's >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
hmmmmm :-\
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::) I think general consensus is hate for Bmw drivers not for the car ;D
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
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honestly if m3 prices here were as low as UK, I would be driving an M3 without doubt.. :-\
Let's hope they don't have the same wan£ers stigma in Turkey as they do in the uk cem.
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
agreed, but it's not a suggestion for you. ;)
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
agreed, but it's not a suggestion for you. ;)
Is it for your Dad then ;D
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
agreed, but it's not a suggestion for you. ;)
Is it for your Dad then ;D
better than his Mondeo. :)
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
Add VXR8 spoiler and 19"s and I think that'll look quite smart 8)
Incidently, that's about the same money as the Caddilac STS I looked at at easter, similar miles/age :-\ The Caddy looked sharper, but interior was, um, different ::) reckon that could be a tidy purchase for someone ::)
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honestly if m3 prices here were as low as UK, I would be driving an M3 without doubt.. :-\
Let's hope they don't have the same wan£ers stigma in Turkey as they do in the uk cem.
same here ;D ;D but who cares I love that car.. :)
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No doubt it would be Estoril Blue Cem ;D
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No doubt it would be Estoril Blue Cem ;D
white ;) but if only option is this I wouldnt say no :y
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::) I think general consensus is hate for Bmw drivers not for the car ;D
Don't listen to him Cem, Chris is in denial. ::) ::) ;D ;D
I'm sure I've seen him driving about in a BMW when it's dark and this exaggerated hatred is just for show. ;) ;) ;D ;D
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::) I think general consensus is hate for Bmw drivers not for the car ;D
Don't listen to him Cem, Chris is in denial. ::) ::) ;D ;D
I'm sure I've seen him driving about in a BMW when it's dark and this exaggerated hatred is just for show. ;) ;) ;D ;D
;D thanks for the info.. ;D :y :y :y
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::) I think general consensus is hate for Bmw drivers not for the car ;D
Don't listen to him Cem, Chris is in denial. ::) ::) ;D ;D
I'm sure I've seen him driving about in a BMW when it's dark and this exaggerated hatred is just for show. ;) ;) ;D ;D
;D thanks for the info.. ;D :y :y :y
....now tell the BMW lover from Turkey the little scheme we have going in the uk Al. Ok I'll tell him. We borrow BMW's by night and take them to the scrap yard crusher by day. Do the country a favour. ;D ( a not for profit organisation :y )
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Well mostly not for profit ::), we sell the cats seperately :y
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::) ::) ;D ;D ;D I do believe..... :D
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
agreed, but it's not a suggestion for you. ;)
Is it for your Dad then ;D
better than his Mondeo. :)
Oh bugger ;D ;D I was joking when I said it ;D ;D
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Try one of these. Although an engine swap might be on the cards. ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481116711/sort/default/usedcars/make/holden/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/rg64da/quicksearch/true/page/1?logcode=p
I don't like that Chris. It looks too old man(ish) & boring :(
agreed, but it's not a suggestion for you. ;)
Is it for your Dad then ;D
better than his Mondeo. :)
Oh bugger ;D ;D I was joking when I said it ;D ;D
I'm trying to educate him. Little steps Pete, little steps.
At least he's not in a poxy Beemer! ;D
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Oh bugger ;D ;D I was joking when I said it ;D ;D
I'm trying to educate him. Little steps Pete, little steps.
At least he's not in a poxy Beemer! ;D
Yeh, O demons are better than BMW's (only slightly) :y
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on a different front, I've just picked up a new estate car to run the dogs round in over the winter. Got a V-plate Audi A6 Avant with full MOT & tax, 4wd and 300HP V8. all for £1300. Bargain.
only down-side is that it's auto - but then again they didn't make any manuals.
Oh yes and it's got park-assist, but that got removed on the way home.
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I know of an auto a4 quatro diesel Estate still going strong with 300k on it.
They try to break it, but it just won't.
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Give me ten minutes with it :-X
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It's still a vag though. Ever tried the diagnostics...? :(
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It's still a vag though. Ever tried the diagnostics...? :(
Vag's themselves are easy to diagnose and operate with a bit of practice. It's the owners that I have trouble with..... ::)
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I know of an auto a4 quatro diesel Estate still going strong with 300k on it.
They try to break it, but it just won't.
My son's mates seven series Bmw has quite a few miles on it and was imported from new. It's not treated that kindly either. ::) Original engine but had some auto gearbox work done at around 285K. The fuel range isn't that bad either as you can see below, considering it's driven hard and weighs about three ton. ;D The tank wasn't completely full either. ::)
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/9a6f03cf.jpg)
Oh, and just how much rear legroom do you need when the front seat is set for a 6' 3" driver. :y
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/b03c3118.jpg)
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
COULD be be even more fun if they want too crash test it...good bye new car :'(....TBH they are doing that qiute a bit at the moment
Crash testing? :o Not at IVA. I have the manual somewhere. All common sense stuff, and I doubt much would need doing to pass it.
down here they do... it is done it about 5 miles away ...they did it too a cobra last week :y
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I'm pretty sure crash testing only applies to the limited type approval tests required for businesses intending to import numbers of cars (e.g. what's described here: http://www.millbrook.co.uk/Page/IVA-and-ESVA-Testing )
As an individual I believe you only need the M1/N1 tests which don't include crash testing, the same as for an amateur built car (otherwise nobody would ever build a kit car if you had to build two and crash one!)..
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correct !
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correct !
That doesn't happen often ;D
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it has'nt happened this time either.... i am just saying what i have seen and i have seen it..regardless what your link says..prehaps VOSA at hempsted should'nt be doing it but they do
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
COULD be be even more fun if they want too crash test it...good bye new car :'(....TBH they are doing that qiute a bit at the moment
Crash testing? :o Not at IVA. I have the manual somewhere. All common sense stuff, and I doubt much would need doing to pass it.
down here they do... it is done it about 5 miles away ...they did it too a cobra last week :y
clearly no owner is going to agree to a test where the car is destroyed. ;D
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Unless it's a BMW, in which case they have no choice, I can
crush crash them all night long :y
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I previously imported from NY USA a Ford Crown Victoria. Including shipping fees, tax and SVA test it came to just over £3,000.
Below link is worth noting.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105
That bit (well, IVA now) could be fun! If anything failed you could be in for a tough time trying to sort it out. Still, you'd think a car sold in Oz would be likely to comply with all the EU C&U regs..
COULD be be even more fun if they want too crash test it...good bye new car :'(....TBH they are doing that qiute a bit at the moment
Crash testing? :o Not at IVA. I have the manual somewhere. All common sense stuff, and I doubt much would need doing to pass it.
down here they do... it is done it about 5 miles away ...they did it too a cobra last week :y
clearly no owner is going to agree to a test where the car is destroyed. ;D
not saying i agree with it and i don't think you have much say in the matter...this is VOSA we are dealing with
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not saying i agree with it and i don't think you have much say in the matter...this is VOSA we are dealing with
So, you turn up and present the vehicle for an IVA and they can crash test it before your eyes without your permission? (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)
The clue is in the name - Individual Vehicle Approval. It's a process for testing one-off and low volume vehicles where you don't have a car park full of them to crash test nor the resources to do so. All aspects of the vehicle performance are assessed non-destructively on the basis that only a single vehicle exists.
I can see no requirement for crash testing in the IVA manual (I'm reading it now), except that, if such testing has been carried out and compliance with an equivalent standard demonstrated, you can use documentary evidence of compliance to satisfy the examiner. This is important because, for a production car from abroad, you will almost certainly be able to do so. Failing that, the examiner's experience will tell him if a vehicle structure is adequate. If he's not happy, a report from a structural engineer might be used to demonstrate compliance. Data from the kit manufacturer can be used, for example. At no time would an IVA specifically require a crash test before a vehicle is registered.
Now, if, as a kit car manufacturer, you start to exceed a certain production volume, or want to access markets where there is no "low volume" route to registration, you might need to go down that route. That's the only circumstance in which I would expect to see a kit car crash tested, so that'll be what you saw.
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our old office used to back onto the VOSA complex and tbh it was trikes as well and these bikes were converted using a kit brought off the shelf to convert a bike to a trike which i would have thought would have already had that done to it before the kit had gone to market
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Now, if, as a kit car manufacturer, you start to exceed a certain production volume, or want to access markets where there is no "low volume" route to registration, you might need to go down that route. That's the only circumstance in which I would expect to see a kit car crash tested, so that'll be what you saw.
Given the timing it's quite likely the Cobra was one of the new AC models (which are actually Kirkham or Superformance kits, built elsewhere, IIRC) - they'll be going through low volume type approval I expect as there's no way AC could satisfy the "Amateur build" requirements for IVA :y
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don't forget that if you're a manufacturer and you DO meet the "very low volume" requirements for the "model report" part of IVA, not many countries will use these processes. Most insist on low-volume type-approval and include the Safety Steering Directive ( i.e. crash test ).
So it is very possible to see what looks like a kit car being crashed, even though it's definitely not a UK requirement until your 501st car per year.
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Hi mate
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-495788713.htm
Ive actually used to export the origional (Holden) SS Commodores to the UK years ago and still import heavy equipment back here from the UK so I can probably help with a few bits
Exporting (and importing ) via Ausy can be a pain in the ass as they have a very complicated set of rules that vary between federal and regional states. From here (NZ) is a bit easier and possibly cheaper as our $$ is very strong at the moment
When I was doing it we exported to Ireland first then into the UK for your tax system. Then the cars had to have new speedo stickers made up to convert to MPH as ours are only in KM. There were a few other bits and pieces but we were exporting direct to other dealers and i think the rules for private imports arnt so bad. This of course was years ago and things would have changed since then!
for shipping you will probably have to ship by container rather than roro as we are the last call for shipping companies before they return back to the USA UK etc. You can get 3 cars in a 20' container and the cost will be around $3000 or 1500GBP
for an 07 model is around $40k nz. Our $$ is about double the GBP at the moment so that is about $20K GBP. If you buy something you will need a compliance cert and dereg cert for the idividual car basicly to say its not stolen and that it complies with certification regulations
If your interested our main on-line website is Trademe.co.nz and main auction site is turners.co.nz good luck!
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OOOOHOOHOOO you bought me the whole fe@kin toys shop there NZ. ;D
Good man :y
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I agree with that, Aus is incredibly expensive for second hand cars (my Father lives there), New Zealand is the place to be!! looks like turners will help you as well, a very reputable firm when i was a young`un“ I used to buy my cars from them to flip them which is how i afforded to leave the country!