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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: big mel on 17 August 2012, 16:01:21
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I know that the 1.8 has gasket problems, but i have allways liked them and they can be bought for silly money any oof,rs had one? but my mig is my first choice.
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I know that the 1.8 has gasket problems, but i have allways liked them and they can be bought for silly money any oof,rs had one? but my mig is my first choice.
The diesel is the best bet,cam belts on the v6 (3 of them :o) are a mare to change.
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Thanks for the info Henryd.
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I know that the 1.8 has gasket problems, but i have allways liked them and they can be bought for silly money any oof,rs had one? but my mig is my first choice.
My friend had a 1.8 that took us to work on alternate weeks , needless to say it cooked itself twice with failed head gasket :( took his car back to the place that repaired it numerous times and eventually cured it with a modified gasket ... most should be sorted that are still running :y
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I had a diesel top of the range one and it was okay later ones build quality left something to be desired but that said it never let me down once, it went when I realised it just wasn't as comfortable as the mig :y
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Rover against omega..no contest..omega every time.. :y
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My mates just bought a diesel with a second gear problem, but he got it cheap & it's just gone through an MOT with ease, he loves it :y :y
A bit too old manish for me & I love big Rovers :y :y
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I like the 'Retro' look of these.............. :) :)
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Pipe,slippers,flat cap....... :P :D
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Pipe,slippers,flat cap....... :P :D
I was told that, when as a younger man, I bought a Rover 827. possibly the best car I have ever had.... :D :D :D
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cam belts on the v6 (3 of them :o) are a mare to change.
I belive the V8s cam belt isn't too bad though ............ ::) ::) ::) ;D
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I've come the other way, having had Rovers, Land Rovers, MGs exclusively since 1980.
The 75 is lovely, had the 1.8T for three years before it had the final HGF and I got rid for my current Omega.
Check out the 75 and zt club for everything you could possibly need to know, they are a friendly bunch, even if some spend too much time on the forum.
The 75 will be smaller, it will feel much smaller. It will feel much better put (doors, controls), it will feel less good (leather on seats, space to work in engine bay).
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620 or 820TI for me... bargainous.
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cam belts on the v6 (3 of them :o) are a mare to change.
I belive the V8s cam belt isn't too bad though ............ ::) ::) ::) ;D
The V8 version has to be one of the best sleeper's around for the price :)
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The diesel is the best bet,cam belts on the v6 (3 of them :o) are a mare to change.
My brother-in-law has a V6 ZT-190. He recently paid an ex MG mechanic to do the cambelts and water pump. Cambelt interval is 90K or six years for the V6 I believe. Quotes he got ranged from £600 - £1200 and as Henry said, they're a pig to do and it's an all day job. Vis valves link bar on the inlet manifold seems to fail early on the V6's but seems to cause no running issues, apart from an annoying jingle when you blip the throttle.
Feels smaller inside than Omega but the V6 does make a very nice sound when prodded. :y
I do have a soft spot for the ZT's. :y Taking it all round, my B-I-L has had his a few years and is still happy with it. :y
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
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I had a 2.0 Diesel as a company car from 98-00, I thought it was a great car, I drove approx 50,000 in it and it never let me down and very comfortable to drive on long trips. I quite like the MG version
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
1. Agreed, but no coincidence, given the origin of the company. ;)
2. Agreed, rear number plate doesn't comply with the norm does it.
3. A guy I work with has the 4.6 V8 ZT, it's the high output one according to him. Sadly for him, a modern three litre diesel will eat it on performance, allegedly. ;) ;)
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The V8 is disappointingly gutless, something like 260bhp iirc
By the time 75 was released, the KV6 engine had most of the issues ironed out. The inline K series still had HG issues, though normally caused by something else - the K series is very sensitive to the most minor coolant issues. Though I reckon a 1.8 75 would feel a little like the clapped out 1.4 (I think) Focus I'm batting about in currently.
I quite like Rovers, had a few, including my favourite car I've owned, my now deceased 25. Never had any drastic issues with any of them, though the 25 did pop its HG at 72k, and the cheapo replacement was still good when the car was written off at 116k
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
1. Agreed, but no coincidence, given the origin of the company. ;)
2. Agreed, rear number plate doesn't comply with the norm does it.
3. A guy I work with has the 4.6 V8 ZT, it's the high output one according to him. Sadly for him, a modern three litre diesel will eat it on performance, allegedly. ;) ;)
1. Disagree; Jaguar was owned by Ford and Rover by BMW at the time. There's a lot of BMW thinking in a 75, and a considerable number of parts. Jag S type is a re-enginered Lincoln.
2. It complies. It's just bigger. Looks odd though!
3. It's just the basic Mustang spec engine. Which is disappointing in it's original home.
Hard to see the V8 as an Omega alternative as they are very rare, and expensive when you do find one.
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The V8 is disappointingly gutless, something like 260bhp iirc
By the time 75 was released, the KV6 engine had most of the issues ironed out. The inline K series still had HG issues, though normally caused by something else - the K series is very sensitive to the most minor coolant issues. Though I reckon a 1.8 75 would feel a little like the clapped out 1.4 (I think) Focus I'm batting about in currently.
I quite like Rovers, had a few, including my favourite car I've owned, my now deceased 25. Never had any drastic issues with any of them, though the 25 did pop its HG at 72k, and the cheapo replacement was still good when the car was written off at 116k
Thats the impression i got when i borrowed it , overtaking with foot to the floor it was pretty gutless ::) quite a big car with 4 thimble pots .... caught my mate out once when overtaking a lorry , car coming the other way and no power so dropped back and hit the rear of the lorries side :o me in the passenger seat taking the brunt of the impact :( scary :(
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
1. Agreed, but no coincidence, given the origin of the company. ;)
2. Agreed, rear number plate doesn't comply with the norm does it.
3. A guy I work with has the 4.6 V8 ZT, it's the high output one according to him. Sadly for him, a modern three litre diesel will eat it on performance, allegedly. ;) ;)
1. Disagree; Jaguar was owned by Ford and Rover by BMW at the time. There's a lot of BMW thinking in a 75, and a considerable number of parts. Jag S type is a re-enginered Lincoln.
2. It complies. It's just bigger. Looks odd though!
3. It's just the basic Mustang spec engine. Which is disappointing in it's original home.
Hard to see the V8 as an Omega alternative as they are very rare, and expensive when you do find one.
I think it is, besides, price is only one factor, I'm talking about the layout and configuration, and what kind of car it is. Some of the ones I've seen I wouldn't call expensive anyway.
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I've had a few of the older rovers, 3.5 v8 coupe' etc if anyone know's a rover sd1 owner i still have the rover works manual. pm me if you do.
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Now i know who stole the elite rear blind idea ::) ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWqlktg8lo&playnext=1&list=PL1534B49E5FCEAF70&feature=results_main
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
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Hmm they did a 2.5 V6 ... wonder what that was like :-\
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Hmm they did a 2.5 V6 ... wonder what that was like :-\
Spritely enough. By the time it hit the 75, most of its problems had been worked out. Although by designation, a member of the K series, its a traditional design, and rated at 190bhp in ZT tune. In manual form, certainly keeps a chipped 3.0l auto MV6 honest ::)
But FWD :(
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Hmm they did a 2.5 V6 ... wonder what that was like :-\
Spritely enough. By the time it hit the 75, most of its problems had been worked out. Although by designation, a member of the K series, its a traditional design, and rated at 190bhp in ZT tune. In manual form, certainly keeps a chipped 3.0l auto MV6 honest ::)
But FWD :(
Arh dratts ::) foiled again ;D
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Cambelt interval is 90K or six years for the V6 I believe. Quotes he got ranged from £600 - £1200
I quoted a customer around £700 to replace his engine after one of the belts snapped on a 2.0 v6.
Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
1.8 is a four pot but both the 2.5 and 2.0 are v6 engines. 2.0 diesel is B.M.W. sourced
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
no BMW owned the company at the time of the 75 as some engines in the range and i think it was diesels and the 6 pot petrol.... :y
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
no BMW owned the company at the time of the 75 as some engines in the range and i think it was diesels and the 6 pot petrol.... :y
No, as TB said earlier, V6 was K series family ;)
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
no BMW owned the company at the time of the 75 as some engines in the range and i think it was diesels and the 6 pot petrol.... :y
No, as TB said earlier, V6 was K series family ;)
yep only the 2.0 diesel is Bmw sourced,the rest are Rover fare :y
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
no BMW owned the company at the time of the 75 as some engines in the range and i think it was diesels and the 6 pot petrol.... :y
No, as TB said earlier, V6 was K series family ;)
did he...that would explain why it was sooo cack then
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Avoid like the plague.
My Directors got one. Inherent brake pipe problem. Pipes were sourced by BMW and are prown to bad corrusion.
ALL needed to be replaced about a year ago to the tune of £900.00..personally I would have scrapped it.
Last week thermostat went...another £500.00 blown.
All at 60,000 ish miles.
Not sure I can agree with your comments;
Tis a Rover and not a BMW, Brake pipes can be quite simply made up, and I can not understand why a thermostat costs £500 even on the V6..............this is my opinion and I may be wrong...... :) :)
no BMW owned the company at the time of the 75 as some engines in the range and i think it was diesels and the 6 pot petrol.... :y
No, as TB said earlier, V6 was K series family ;)
did he...that would explain why it was sooo cack then
Not a bad engine, except the belts are a pig. As said, in 190bhp trim, has the potential to embarrass a chipped 3.0l auto. And has no real weak points.
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apart from the one i had made a load of noise but did'nt really go any where fast...thankfully it was a company car....it felt so heavy....even more so than the omega :y
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Can't say I've ever been inspired by a Rover 75. I think the "Hyacinth Bucket" mock retro styling is what turns me off the idea. Same with the Jag S type. :-\
I bet the 1.8 K series model had to be ragged pretty ruthlessly to get it moving. A great engine for a small, light car, but it's a shame there was nothing better in the parts bin for the 75 (and the freelander, for that matter).
A mate of mine had the V8 model. If it had gone as well as it sounded it would have been wonderful.
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mine (i think as it was a while ago...lots of cack companies cars since) was a 2.5 6 pot and i as i said it sounded good but thats where it ended the 1.8 must have been a right pig :y
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The nasp 1.8 is a pig, it'll get you about, but slowly. The 1.8T is much better although still slow at low speeds unless you give it beans.
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
1. Agreed, but no coincidence, given the origin of the company. ;)
2. Agreed, rear number plate doesn't comply with the norm does it.
3. A guy I work with has the 4.6 V8 ZT, it's the high output one according to him. Sadly for him, a modern three litre diesel will eat it on performance, allegedly. ;) ;)
1. Disagree; Jaguar was owned by Ford and Rover by BMW at the time. There's a lot of BMW thinking in a 75, and a considerable number of parts. Jag S type is a re-enginered Lincoln.
2. It complies. It's just bigger. Looks odd though!
3. It's just the basic Mustang spec engine. Which is disappointing in it's original home.
Hard to see the V8 as an Omega alternative as they are very rare, and expensive when you do find one.
The V8 is a basic spec engine, i had one (see below). It can however be very very easily pumped up to 400hp with a few cheap mods. That makes it reasonabley powerful. It is quite heavy though. would be a good project for an Omega
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/markrnorton/Z3%20V8/DSCN2597.jpg)
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Always thought these looked strange, for some reason thought they were related to s type. The number plate on rear is weird. Neighbour had one (1.8), that sounded quite good. Is the 1.8 a v6 also?
Saw the v8 on a top gear repeat, looks good, as someone said a sleeper. Is the v8 rwd then, how late were they made? Dare I say it? It could me an alternative of sorts for the omega?
1. Agreed, but no coincidence, given the origin of the company. ;)
2. Agreed, rear number plate doesn't comply with the norm does it.
3. A guy I work with has the 4.6 V8 ZT, it's the high output one according to him. Sadly for him, a modern three litre diesel will eat it on performance, allegedly. ;) ;)
1. Disagree; Jaguar was owned by Ford and Rover by BMW at the time. There's a lot of BMW thinking in a 75, and a considerable number of parts. Jag S type is a re-enginered Lincoln.
2. It complies. It's just bigger. Looks odd though!
3. It's just the basic Mustang spec engine. Which is disappointing in it's original home.
Hard to see the V8 as an Omega alternative as they are very rare, and expensive when you do find one.
The V8 is a basic spec engine, i had one (see below). It can however be very very easily pumped up to 400hp with a few cheap mods. That makes it reasonabley powerful. It is quite heavy though. would be a good project for an Omega
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/markrnorton/Z3%20V8/DSCN2597.jpg)
Aye that would be a good idea :-* :-* :y Oh and look proper positioned bolts on the rocker's ;D :y
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mine (i think as it was a while ago...lots of cack companies cars since) was a 2.5 6 pot and i as i said it sounded good but thats where it ended the 1.8 must have been a right pig :y
That's odd. :-\ As I said earlier, my B-I-L has the ZT 190 and that sounds and goes well. They're good for around 140mph. Omega may outrun it top wack but I doubt you'd ever get past one if you weren't already in front.
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mine (i think as it was a while ago...lots of cack companies cars since) was a 2.5 6 pot and i as i said it sounded good but thats where it ended the 1.8 must have been a right pig :y
That's odd. :-\ As I said earlier, my B-I-L has the ZT 190 and that sounds and goes well. They're good for around 140mph. Omega may outrun it top wack but I doubt you'd ever get past one if you weren't already in front.
I agree, I see a black ZT 190 most mornings, and if he is in a hurry, its hard work to keep up in either of my Omegas.
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I have a zt 190, and it's no slouch.
While I agree it's not as quick as some v6's, it is a heavy old car, and the noise just makes you smile, while it is still plenty quick enough.
Comfort wise it has a very firm ride, which is noticeable on b roads, but tolerable as the handling is on rails, and on a motorway it is a very nice cruiser.
Seats are as comfortable as any I've used before, and on elf the main things I like about the car is its "carness"
It is big and heavy and unrefined to be honest. No traction control, heavy clutch, big steering wheel.......it's a proper man car.
I can get wheel spin on gear change in third on a dry road with bald tyres, and fourth on a damp road, and on new rubber can still get wheel spin on changing to second on a hot dry day, so it can't be that slow! (this was a private road obviously)