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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Kai on 29 August 2012, 19:24:56
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Okay so having a little problem that i really don't want to turn into a big one...
the car starts sort of, but acts like it has a flat battery as in I turn the key to start it the lights go dim and it just sort of acts like it doesn't want to turn over, after holding it over though for a few seconds it starts to turn over and reluctantly starts. so far ive only changed the battery but I'm wondering what everyone elses' take is on it?
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Look for poor connections, esp around the +ve connection near battery.
Or, bring it around one day.
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I'm still waiting for Mr Wyatt to sort out that meet haha :y I will have a look in the morning at the connections and i suppose the connections on the starter? what are the starters like to replace?
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Did it start ok with a fully charged battery?
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Did it start ok with a fully charged battery?
not like I think it should, and i guess not like the car thinks it should because i have to put the radio code in every time I start it
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Information tends to support connection issues especially if you are confident the battery was fully charged and in good condition etc, have you tried jump leads (I expect so)?
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yeah I took the battery off my other car, I will clean up the connections tomorrow and report back.... worst case scenario is the starter motor?
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Do check all major power connections, +ve & -ve around battery and elsewhere especially as your radio seems to suffer a loss of power each time you try and start (with a good power source). Search a bit more if you can bear it!
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wires on starter-check them too mate :y
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Starter motors rarely fail on the V6. I reckon a poor connection (battery terminal crimp coming loose?) or a poor battery, which hopefully you can eliminate.
Do check the battery is charging properly though. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90619.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90619.0) ;)
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As mentioned check the terminals. My car was like this until I did. It turned out to be corroded wire inside the big crimped battery terminals. Due to the nature of it I had to replace the terminals. I choppped them off, bared more cable, cleaned up the strands, soldered them with plumbers solder and blow torch, then put them into new terminals. The car starts infintely better now, and the best thing is bloody trafficmaster keeps quiet aswell.
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As mentioned check the terminals. My car was like this until I did. It turned out to be corroded wire inside the big crimped battery terminals. Due to the nature of it I had to replace the terminals. I choppped them off, bared more cable, cleaned up the strands, soldered them with plumbers solder and blow torch, then put them into new terminals. The car starts infintely better now, and the best thing is bloody trafficmaster keeps quiet aswell.
Yep. :y The clue, other than having a waggle of the wire, is that the terminals can get hot while the car is running or when starting. Can also fix by stripping back to good copper and then fitting a terminal with a screw clamp for the cable.
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And clean them with a wire tool. cheap thing from hellfrauds. ;)
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When checking connections don't forget the earthing strap engine to chassis.
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Really just ran out of time to do this today, had to do springs and anti roll bars on my other car, then help a friend do an engine transplant on a rover 75, got work tomorrow but will have to have a look on Saturday thank you all for the advice though will let you know how I get on :y
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and dont forget the 15 second alarm thing if you remove your batt. cables :y
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and dont forget the 15 second alarm thing if you remove your batt. cables :y
Okay now at the risk of sounding like a complete novice..... Pardon? :D
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Okay so finally managed to make time for the mig this morning and she started up fine? So maybe becoming more intermittent, any way I still checked all the wires from the battery and all the wires to the starter motor cleaned them all up and she started ok so I guess only time will tell but for now it's all sorted :y
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and dont forget the 15 second alarm thing if you remove your batt. cables :y
Okay now at the risk of sounding like a complete novice..... Pardon? :D
Turn the ignition on (no need to actually start engine), wait for most of the warning lights to go off, switch off the ignition, walk round to the front of the car and disconnect the battery within 15 seconds. This will prevent the alarm from being triggered.
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Okay so after a few days of thinking my problem was sorted, It's come back worse than before I went to move the car to a staff car park and it started then died and a car with the spanner light was flashing is this the crank sensor? Or am I still over looking something?
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Okay so after a few days of thinking my problem was sorted, It's come back worse than before I went to move the car to a staff car park and it started then died and a car with the spanner light was flashing is this the crank sensor? Or am I still over looking something?
Check the transponder chip is secure in the key body
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAKEY.jpg)
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Yep it's certainly tight and not moveable with a finger :(
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My experience with the crank sensor is that when it fails, or is failing, the engine will not start. When failed, mine did turn over normally when attempting to start (sounds normal engine turn over but will not start), not like a flat battery/charging/connection issue (which I've also had in the past) as seemed to be described with your problem originally. Fault codes should confirm crank sensor failure, not sure if you had any dash warnings with your original fault or if you can check out the current fault? Guides are on OOF for reading faults. Hope you sort it.
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Car and Spanner light flashing is the imobiliser ... strange the chip is in place though ... are there any codes stored or is the car and spanner light on permenantly or flashing on starting ?
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Okay so the car hasn't done anything wrong since my last post, so perhaps I've pushed the chip in further? Or knocked it? Either way I took it down to a friend with a tech2 to see if the car had thrown up any codes and there was nothing no codes at all. So my question is this, is it possible this is just a freak coincidence and problem that was on top of the original problem? Because she starts fine now after cleaning up the connections to he starter motor and battery?