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Title: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: the alarming man on 04 September 2012, 21:57:34
 It seems that the tolls are going up again next month (7th october)

cars and van going up 50p to £2
multi axle vehicle going up £1:30 to £5


someone is on a bloody good screw here me thinks



]www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/september/4/dartford_tolls_will_rise.aspx] (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/september/4/dartford_tolls_will_rise.aspx)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 04 September 2012, 22:03:56
what happened to once its been paid for its free :o :o

anyway whos a good screw 8) :y
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: the alarming man on 04 September 2012, 22:06:06
what happened to once its been paid for its free :o :o

anyway whos a good screw 8) :y

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now that would be telling
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2012, 22:12:41
Its been £1.50 for 20+ years...  ...I remember, as I was always chased by the staff, as I use dthe autotoll in my van, thus only paying £1.50, rather than £4(?) for vans ::). A little bloke always used to run across, but was never quite quick enough ;D
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 September 2012, 22:14:03
The Severn crossing is £6!!!  >:(  and that's to go into Wales!!  :-X

On LPG it's probably cheaper to go on up the M5 to Gloucester and cross the river there!!  ::)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: twiglet on 04 September 2012, 22:17:01
Its been £1.50 for 20+ years...  ...I remember, as I was always chased by the staff, as I use dthe autotoll in my van, thus only paying £1.50, rather than £4(?) for vans ::). A little bloke always used to run across, but was never quite quick enough ;D

No it hasn't...  It always used to be £1.  Only went up to £1.50 in the last 4-5 years.   :y
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2012, 22:26:08
Its been £1.50 for 20+ years...  ...I remember, as I was always chased by the staff, as I use dthe autotoll in my van, thus only paying £1.50, rather than £4(?) for vans ::). A little bloke always used to run across, but was never quite quick enough ;D

No it hasn't...  It always used to be £1.  Only went up to £1.50 in the last 4-5 years.   :y
Could have sworn it was 1.50. I remember it was always 2 coins, and I always used the 'largest' coins for speed (so the little man wouldn't catch me ;D).  When was the £1 coin released?

Mind you, don't go my my memory ;D
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: zirk on 04 September 2012, 22:29:57
It seems that the tolls are going up again next month (7th october)

cars and van going up 50p to £2
multi axle vehicle going up £1:30 to £5
D

someone is on a bloody good screw here me thinks



]www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/september/4/dartford_tolls_will_rise.aspx] (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/september/4/dartford_tolls_will_rise.aspx)

Yep, His name is Boris Johnson, its not been a Toll for a long time, its now a congistion charge and as far as I know its all now paid for and the money goes to TFL.

If they had the insight of fitting RHD and LHD window takers then wouldn't be a congistion in the first place, as its mainley EU trucks having to climb over the Cab to pay that causing most of the congistion.

 >:(
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: the alarming man on 04 September 2012, 22:35:12
Its been £1.50 for 20+ years...  ...I remember, as I was always chased by the staff, as I use dthe autotoll in my van, thus only paying £1.50, rather than £4(?) for vans ::). A little bloke always used to run across, but was never quite quick enough ;D


it only went up too £ 1.50 about 4 years ago now...on a normal week they take in the region of £ 99,000,000 a week!!! :o
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 September 2012, 23:06:18
TB is (sort of) right... Vans were always £1.50 when cars were £1, even car derived vans >:( Really used to grip my poo  >:(

I have a Dart Tag (3 now actually as both my vans have one too) as you get cheaper crossings and no faffing with coins :y
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: the alarming man on 04 September 2012, 23:08:17
TB is (sort of) right... Vans were always £1.50 when cars were £1, even car derived vans >:( Really used to grip my poo  >:(

I have a Dart Tag (3 now actually as both my vans have one too) as you get cheaper crossings and no faffing with coins :y


i think for a car with a tag it is still 97p??...that will go up
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: albitz on 04 September 2012, 23:32:10
Theres congestion because the tolls are there. If the tolls werent there they wouldnt have the localised congestion and localised pollution which they claim they collect the money to try to combat.
Insult to the intelligence doesnt begin to cover it. ::)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 September 2012, 23:39:11
TB is (sort of) right... Vans were always £1.50 when cars were £1, even car derived vans >:( Really used to grip my poo  >:(

I have a Dart Tag (3 now actually as both my vans have one too) as you get cheaper crossings and no faffing with coins :y


i think for a car with a tag it is still 97p??...that will go up
Currently £1 for a car (so saves 50p) and £1.75 for vans, or 2 axle goods vehicles as they describe them (saving 25p)

I doubt very much the tag charges will be unaffected.  >:( :'(
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: albitz on 04 September 2012, 23:42:42
And the top priority these days is supposed to be helping businesses stay afloat and be competitive.
Cars & vans should drive straight through.Large trucks - stop at the booth,UK registered go through free.Foriegn registered pay £50. :)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: twiglet on 05 September 2012, 10:12:41
Its been £1.50 for 20+ years...  ...I remember, as I was always chased by the staff, as I use dthe autotoll in my van, thus only paying £1.50, rather than £4(?) for vans ::). A little bloke always used to run across, but was never quite quick enough ;D

No it hasn't...  It always used to be £1.  Only went up to £1.50 in the last 4-5 years.   :y
Could have sworn it was 1.50. I remember it was always 2 coins, and I always used the 'largest' coins for speed (so the little man wouldn't catch me ;D).  When was the £1 coin released?

Mind you, don't go my my memory ;D

Circa 1983.  :y
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: twiglet on 05 September 2012, 10:16:17
TB is (sort of) right... Vans were always £1.50 when cars were £1, even car derived vans >:( Really used to grip my poo  >:(

I have a Dart Tag (3 now actually as both my vans have one too) as you get cheaper crossings and no faffing with coins :y


i think for a car with a tag it is still 97p??...that will go up
Currently £1 for a car (so saves 50p) and £1.75 for vans, or 2 axle goods vehicles as they describe them (saving 25p)

I doubt very much the tag charges will be unaffected.  >:( :'(

As LD says, it's definitely cheaper if you have a Dart-tag...

When it was £1 in a car, it was 97p with a tag.  When it went up to £1.50 in a car, it only went up to £1 with a tag, so quite a significant saving.  Especially if, as was the case with me, you spend half your life driving round London on the M25...
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: markrnorton on 05 September 2012, 12:56:34
I'm glad i get it for free then !

Us locals have a discount scheme
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Rods2 on 05 September 2012, 21:59:18
Good to see another Government department is only putting up the price by the rate of inflation.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 September 2012, 22:25:03
I use the Severn Bridge quite a lot and always use the coin bin lanes. I often collect a nice little rebate from the coin return/reject and change  slots!  ;)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2012, 10:47:54
Had a letter Monday about it. From October 7th:

Cars go from £1 to £1.33 (TAG), £1.50 to £2 Cash
2 Axle Goods £1.75 to £2.19 (TAG), £2 to £2.50 Cash
Multi Axle Goods £3.20 to £4.33 (TAG), £3.70 to £5 Cash

And there's another rise planned in 2014 ::)

Not exactly a rise anywhere near in line with inflation ::) >:(

Still, they've got us by the balls... If you need to go that way frequently there is no other viable option at present. They are, however, keeping the night time crossings free ::)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: jonnycool on 12 September 2012, 10:53:43
The Severn crossing is £6!!!  >:(  and that's to go into Wales!!  :-X

On LPG it's probably cheaper to go on up the M5 to Gloucester and cross the river there!!  ::)

Worth every penny mate  8)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Nick W on 12 September 2012, 14:35:53
The Severn crossing is £6!!!  >:(  and that's to go into Wales!!  :-X

On LPG it's probably cheaper to go on up the M5 to Gloucester and cross the river there!!  ::)

Worth every penny mate  8)

Consider just how much we'd think reasonable if entering Wales was free and the toll paid on leaving.
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Del Boy on 12 September 2012, 16:18:27
Vehicles with a Dart Tag, the charges are going up as follows:

Car: £1.33
2 Axle Goods: £2.19
Multi Axle Goods: £4.33

Vehicles without a Dart Tag are now going to be:

Car: £2.00
2 Axle Goods: £2.50
Multi Axle Goods: £5.00

It's not actually the Government putting the price up, because it's owned by a French (I believe) company, who pay the Government for the contract.
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2012, 20:39:26
Vehicles with a Dart Tag, the charges are going up as follows:

Car: £1.33
2 Axle Goods: £2.19
Multi Axle Goods: £4.33

Vehicles without a Dart Tag are now going to be:

Car: £2.00
2 Axle Goods: £2.50
Multi Axle Goods: £5.00

It's not actually the Government putting the price up, because it's owned by a French (I believe) company, who pay the Government for the contract.

Didn't I post that up there ^^^^ ::) ;)
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 12 September 2012, 21:02:18
Stupid thing is, you only pay one-way at Wales, and there is no good reason why when the bridge opened it shouldn't have been free & double the tunnel charge. There own website figures show it's roughly equal both ways, and no-one in there right mind would go south on the bridge, & all the way to the Blackwall tunnel to avoid the cost.

It is the largest transport con on earth, especially as it's now run by the French, so much so that they've changed the law to allow average speed cameras on privately run roads, which is why they've been up for over 3 years, but only active in the last month.

1st tunnel "it'll be free when it's paid for"
"oh hang on, we need another tunnel, it'll be free when it's paid for"
"oh hang on, we need a bridge, it'll be free when it's paid for"

Several years later, it's now no more than a cash cow. I understand it needs funds for escorts for dangerous goods, and for when they have to shut the bridge in a stiff breeze.

The congestion is caused solely by the booths, irrespective of size/weight/country of origin.

If they're gonna f**k us over, at least they could do it electronically with ANPR like the other great con charge......at least then we wouldn't have to pay for the hours of delay there
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Del Boy on 12 September 2012, 23:12:14
Vehicles with a Dart Tag, the charges are going up as follows:

Car: £1.33
2 Axle Goods: £2.19
Multi Axle Goods: £4.33

Vehicles without a Dart Tag are now going to be:

Car: £2.00
2 Axle Goods: £2.50
Multi Axle Goods: £5.00

It's not actually the Government putting the price up, because it's owned by a French (I believe) company, who pay the Government for the contract.

Didn't I post that up there ^^^^ ::) ;)

You did, and for some reason it totally averted my eyes that this thread even had a second page. God I'm getting old  :-[ :-[.
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 13 September 2012, 07:13:58
I do believe there is some form of charter whereby the french can't change the price without permission.....so it's still the governments fault
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 September 2012, 10:06:42
Vehicles with a Dart Tag, the charges are going up as follows:

Car: £1.33
2 Axle Goods: £2.19
Multi Axle Goods: £4.33

Vehicles without a Dart Tag are now going to be:

Car: £2.00
2 Axle Goods: £2.50
Multi Axle Goods: £5.00

It's not actually the Government putting the price up, because it's owned by a French (I believe) company, who pay the Government for the contract.

Didn't I post that up there ^^^^ ::) ;)

You did, and for some reason it totally averted my eyes that this thread even had a second page. God I'm getting old  :-[ :-[.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How are you feeling now Del?
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 September 2012, 21:51:05
The Severn crossing is £6!!!  >:(  and that's to go into Wales!!  :-X

On LPG it's probably cheaper to go on up the M5 to Gloucester and cross the river there!!  ::)

Worth every penny mate  8)

Too right Butt!!  :)  It'd be an absolute bargain going the otherway though!!  :-*
Title: Re: DARTFORD CROSSING TOLLS
Post by: Andy H on 13 September 2012, 22:04:39
The Severn crossing is £6!!!  >:(  and that's to go into Wales!!  :-X

On LPG it's probably cheaper to go on up the M5 to Gloucester and cross the river there!!  ::)

Worth every penny mate  8)
Too right Butt!!  :)  It'd be an absolute bargain going the otherway though!!  :-*
£6 :o
The Tamar bridge charges £1.50 to get out of Cornwall (or 75p with a tag)