Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2012, 19:29:05
-
this week , I was busy with sanding again :(
finally clit roof burned from sun.. covered it carbonfiber like material and it faded also.. so decided to paint at the end..
this weeks steps..
roof sanded down to bare metal.. (150-180 grid)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof2.jpg)
-
masked..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof3.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof4.jpg)
and epoxy..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof5.jpg)
needs to dry until tuesday than will be sanded with 800
-
no solver type chemical used..
-
.... clit roof burned from sun.. covered it carbonfiber like material and it faded also.. so decided to paint at the end.. .....
It's not a problem we generally have :'( :'( :'( :'( especially this summer. When it's not been raining, it's been piddling it down! :( :(
-
When you say epoxy , is that a special spray/sealer :-\ nice work ...
-
When you say epoxy , is that a special spray/sealer :-\ nice work ...
its the primer used in ships, very resistant, seals from water completely.. even stones cant chip it..
tested it many times and took my approval :y
-
I see , just did a quick search and not much sold in spray cans . Mostly comes in tins for mixing into a spray gun :y
-
I see , just did a quick search and not much sold in spray cans . Mostly comes in tins for mixing into a spray gun :y
yep.. and not much painters left who can/will spray it.. But I can.. and I did..
-
I use this one
http://www.glasurit.com/uae/glasurit-801-703-cv-epoxy-primer-filler (http://www.glasurit.com/uae/glasurit-801-703-cv-epoxy-primer-filler)
-
I would have liked some but its too expensive for such a tiny amount that I require :(
It's not a problem we generally have :'( :'( :'( :'( especially this summer. When it's not been raining, it's been piddling it down! :( :(
We have problem thats even worse - rust!
-
.... clit roof burned from sun.. covered it carbonfiber like material and it faded also.. so decided to paint at the end.. .....
It's not a problem we generally have :'( :'( :'( :'( especially this summer. When it's not been raining, it's been piddling it down! :( :(
for that reason your cars are like the day they come out from factory.. only problem is rust :-\
-
Its worth considering this epoxy for my wheel arches alone :)
-
Its worth considering this epoxy for my wheel arches alone :)
definitely .. I recommend it..
apply 2-3 layers , but you need to wait 10-15 minutes between layers .. (but weather must not be rainy)
-
.....
for that reason your cars are like the day they come out from factory.. only problem is rust :-\
and don't we just know it. Salt on the roads during the winter doesn't hep either. :( :(
-
.....
for that reason your cars are like the day they come out from factory.. only problem is rust :-\
and don't we just know it. Salt on the roads during the winter doesn't help either. :( :(
we also have this problem.. :-\ but as rainy days in a year is not much , cars can survive.. but every 6-7 years I paint the bottom also ;D
-
Does that epoxy etch itself onto the metal :)
-
Does that epoxy etch itself onto the metal :)
yep.. but scratch the metal with 120-150 grid sand paper for best results :y
-
Does that epoxy etch itself onto the metal :)
yep.. but scratch the metal with 120-150 grid sand paper for best results :y
:y
Will be looking out for some ;) hope this epoxy fixes your sunburnt roof for good :)
-
Does that epoxy etch itself onto the metal :)
yep.. but scratch the metal with 120-150 grid sand paper for best results :y
:y
Will be looking out for some ;) hope this epoxy fixes your sunburnt roof for good :)
it will only insulate the roof from water and protect from stones.. there are other stages that require time and effort..
base paint which is directional white with added car color.. than sanding and final coat and laquer.. another week I'll be busy I think :-\
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
I must admit omega scares me :-\ the current paint on it is really thick and I estimate every part will take 2-3 days.. :o
I'm not sure my muscles can handle this.. :-\ and painters cant keep the car for that long time as space is limited..
spring, I'll be dead ;D
-
painters when hear the detail I want either they want a car money or escape from the job.. I must do it
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
I must admit omega scares me :-\ the current paint on it is really thick and I estimate every part will take 2-3 days.. :o
I'm not sure my muscles can handle this.. :-\ and painters cant keep the car for that long time as space is limited..
spring, I'll be dead ;D
Get swmbo helping with the sanding block while you sleep :) are you sanding the omega back to bare metal :-\
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
I must admit omega scares me :-\ the current paint on it is really thick and I estimate every part will take 2-3 days.. :o
I'm not sure my muscles can handle this.. :-\ and painters cant keep the car for that long time as space is limited..
spring, I'll be dead ;D
Get swmbo helping with the sanding block while you sleep :) are you sanding the omega back to bare metal :-\
she promised she will help :)
on omega probably bonnet,hood and roof will be sanded back to bare metal.. sides will be left with original prime but all paint will be removed.. I need a place thats the biggest concern for me..
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
I must admit omega scares me :-\ the current paint on it is really thick and I estimate every part will take 2-3 days.. :o
I'm not sure my muscles can handle this.. :-\ and painters cant keep the car for that long time as space is limited..
spring, I'll be dead ;D
Get swmbo helping with the sanding block while you sleep :) are you sanding the omega back to bare metal :-\
she promised she will help :)
on omega probably bonnet,hood and roof will be sanded back to bare metal.. sides will be left with original prime but all paint will be removed.. I need a place thats the biggest concern for me..
:y
Hand sanding is hard work ::)
-
Chop chop and get the omega sanded down ready for silver ;D :y
I must admit omega scares me :-\ the current paint on it is really thick and I estimate every part will take 2-3 days.. :o
I'm not sure my muscles can handle this.. :-\ and painters cant keep the car for that long time as space is limited..
spring, I'll be dead ;D
Get swmbo helping with the sanding block while you sleep :) are you sanding the omega back to bare metal :-\
she promised she will help :)
on omega probably bonnet,hood and roof will be sanded back to bare metal.. sides will be left with original prime but all paint will be removed.. I need a place thats the biggest concern for me..
:y
Hand sanding is hard work ::)
yep.. I have been in pain for last 3 days.. even the painters escape to sand the roof.. but I loose weight ;D and I'm eating like a monster.. ;D ;D
-
Cem - in the nicest possible sense - your a crazy man. :o ;D ;D ;)
-
Cem - in the nicest possible sense - your a crazy man. :o ;D ;D ;)
yes ;D and saturday was special as I had to do the sanding under the sun because they were painting in shop :(
-
I would have liked some but its too expensive for such a tiny amount that I require :(
It's not a problem we generally have :'( :'( :'( :'( especially this summer. When it's not been raining, it's been piddling it down! :( :(
We have problem thats even worse - rust!
I have an idea.. call close members and share the price .. a 6 kg (4litre) epoxy pack is enough for whole OOF members ;D
besides you can use also on home (I did results excellent) doors that are subject to rain :y
-
How long is the epoxy going to last though :( does it say on the tin :-\
-
How long is the epoxy going to last though :( does it say on the tin :-\
hmm..I experienced a whole year with an already opened bottle.. (hardener may not survive that long)
and unopened botlle may survive very long.. opened bottles/cans depend on the bottle and room temperature imo..
and interesting experience; last time when I painted the home door there was some extra mixture left with hardener already in it.. it kept nearly 25 days without hardening.. spec sheet says expoxy application above 12 celcius.. this must be reason for late hardening imo..
http://www.epoxymethods.com/faqs.htm (http://www.epoxymethods.com/faqs.htm)
-
Does your supplier deliver to UK or where I can get it delivered to UK?
EMD and SMD should get together for a epoxy spraying session ;D
-
Does your supplier deliver to UK or where I can get it delivered to UK?
EMD and SMD should get together for a epoxy spraying session ;D
Have not collected enough buckets for the rust to be put in yet :( Think ill be needing a few 100 ltrs of epoxy :-[ ;D
-
Surely not that bad?
-
Does your supplier deliver to UK or where I can get it delivered to UK?
EMD and SMD should get together for a epoxy spraying session ;D
I bought from a local shop..
here are some uk shops that sell those products
http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/glasurit.html (http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/glasurit.html)
-
Does your supplier deliver to UK or where I can get it delivered to UK?
EMD and SMD should get together for a epoxy spraying session ;D
Have not collected enough buckets for the rust to be put in yet :( Think ill be needing a few 100 ltrs of epoxy :-[ ;D
opps ???
you can apply it in good weather (not rainy and above 12 celcius) and at an avg temperature of 18 celcius it will dry in first 16 hours but for it to be complete (not soft) you need 2-3 days.. I assume you apply 3 layers.. :y
use some mask..
-
Surely not that bad?
Usual rear lower door corners and wheel arches + a few scars , tbh it needs the bottom half up respraying and was thinking maybe a diy job up to the middle door trims in a different colour ... seen it done before but will look further into it :)
-
added work..
epoxy patched , as in some areas bare metal showed its face during block sanding/sanding :( meaning we loose another day..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof6_zps95472dcd.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof7_zps3f7bd68e.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof8_zpsa1199dc0.jpg)
-
sanded again (800 grid)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof9_zps230b3f6c.jpg)
first base coat (directional/pearlescent white) ( another 2 days)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof10_zps559c5c95.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof11_zpsca1cc384.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof12_zps1be4dc33.jpg)
-
base coat #1 blocked sanded /sanded (1200/1500 grid)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof13_zps866f2fc8.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof14_zps7207ffdb.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof15_zpsfe9190cd.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof16_zps868213e6.jpg)
after block sanding some surface imperfections showed itself , will be closed at the next layer.. >:(
-
now final base coat #2 with original color sanded with wet old 1200 grid
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof18.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof19.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof20.jpg)
painting , drying, sanding , drying.. 3 days
-
and finally today half an hour ago..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof21.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof22.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof23.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof25.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/roof24.jpg)
-
all sanding done by me.. as my finger tips skin is gone I cant hold even a glass of tea ;D
will dry for 2 days.. will be sanded with wet 2000 again and then will polished..
-
Job well done , silver is the new black :) Hard work on the hands , nice looking green ish LADA outside the paint shop with chrome hub caps ;D :y
-
thanks EMD.. finally today my stress end up.. :)
spent many hours.. so had to be good.. cant do it again.. but honestly paint jobs depends also on a bit of luck..
even the dusts create problem.. although paint cabins are relatively clean.. not as clean as I desire :-\
-
thanks EMD.. finally today my stress end up.. :)
spent many hours.. so had to be good.. cant do it again.. but honestly paint jobs depends also on a bit of luck..
even the dusts create problem.. although paint cabins are relatively clean.. not as clean as I desire :-\
Hopefully you wont have to now with the epoxy on it , only in your summer will you know if it will survive the intense heat :-\ if it does not survive you can always have an omega cabriolet :)
-
thanks EMD.. finally today my stress end up.. :)
spent many hours.. so had to be good.. cant do it again.. but honestly paint jobs depends also on a bit of luck..
even the dusts create problem.. although paint cabins are relatively clean.. not as clean as I desire :-\
Hopefully you wont have to now with the epoxy on it , only in your summer will you know if it will survive the intense heat :-\ if it does not survive you can always have an omega cabriolet :)
this scratch resistent laquer is better than the original laquer.. I estimate it will keep up at leat 6-7 years.. And I'm not sure I will keep this car that long.. so the buyer will be lucky :)
-
all sanding done by me.. as my finger tips skin is gone I cant hold even a glass of tea ;D
will dry for 2 days.. will be sanded with wet 2000 again and then will polished..
I feel your pain Cem , I REALLY do .......... ;D
It's looking great . :y
-
all sanding done by me.. as my finger tips skin is gone I cant hold even a glass of tea ;D
will dry for 2 days.. will be sanded with wet 2000 again and then will polished..
I feel your pain Cem , I REALLY do .......... ;D
It's looking great . :y
thanks Olympia :) :y
-
for those interested in scratch resistent laquer application:
its applied with late hardener 3:1 ratio.. (3 laquer 1 hardener by volume)
no thinner added.. but still dries very late and can easily flow..
for that reason a pre application for original color coat must be applied to close the surface before actual painting session..
must be applied before the last paint coat dries .. then 2 layers of tiny "dusting" of laquer .. wait 15-20 minutes (this is in cabin temp of at least 30-35 celcius.. then heavy slow spraying of last coat until the surface become mirror like..
-
You will have the best looking roof in Ankara , dont think we have seen your car since being sprayed silver ? Will be good to see how it looks now its all done , almost :-\ i mean providing your arms are strong enough to open the door now ;D :y
-
man well done! that's one hell of alot of work for a clit, to stop the dust and overspray settling do you not leave the ventilation fans running in the paint cabin whilst drying?
-
man well done! that's one hell of alot of work for a clit, to stop the dust and overspray settling do you not leave the ventilation fans running in the paint cabin whilst drying?
ventilation fans are stopped after few minutes.. we need to stop because we have to apply heat for some time.. but specific to this laquer case (as I'm afraid of that it can flow at higher temperatures) we apply only 20 minutes.. and then the car stayed in the cabin until next day morning.. I always prefer to take appointment for the last car painted, otherwise you can never guess what will happen when you take a freshly painted car outside..
car now is initially sanded (morning) , waited another day under sun and polished night time.. dusts ( a few) are removed..
now will wait for 10-15 days for the paint to loose its gloss which means surface hardened and dried completely then will be polished again..