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Title: Door Pins
Post by: Sam Burton on 15 September 2012, 23:19:23
Got in the car tonight and jesus trunderling down the road and the front door pins are so ruddy loud I've put tape on the bottom of the pin itself so when it pops up the base of the pin touches the door card but to no avail has anyone got any solutions to this ruddy annoying rattle

Sam
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: symes on 15 September 2012, 23:25:13
have you removed door pins? maybe not hit back in properly -only a guess mate
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: 05omegav6 on 16 September 2012, 04:29:37
Depends on which door cards you  have :-\

Options are:

1. Remove pins and wrap the base with some self adhesive velcro, the fluffy side obviously.
2. Remove door cards and CAREFULLY dismantle the pin surround. Replace the furry part inside the surround.
     Furry part pence from VX, plastic parts add up to about £70...
3. Remove late facelift door cards (with pin surrounds) and replace with early facelift door cards (no pin surrounds).
4. Remove door cards and tension the pin rod with a rubber band or similar to the door.
5. Swap Early facelift pins (pointy top)with late pins (square top). Only works with late pins in early door cards as the early pins are smaller.
 
Options 1 and 2 work well for a time. Options 3 and 5 work permanently. Option 4 is fiddly and not very effective.
I've used Options 1,3 and 4, so stand by the results. Option 5 is basically the same as Option 3 so will work. Others have tried Option 2, and I believe it to be effective too.

HTH, Al :y
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: SMD on 16 September 2012, 06:21:24
Thanks for the informative reply. I'll be sourcing some fluffy Velcro later on. Insulation tape no longer works. I have an early facelift (2001) but pins are square top with surround
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: fiend61 on 16 September 2012, 11:00:56
take the doorcard off and you will find that the top bit of plastic has come unstuck from the card this causes the top of the doorcard to vibrate causing the the doorpin to rattle  :y  simply use some real good adhesive to re-stick  ;)
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2012, 19:15:11
take the doorcard off and you will find that the top bit of plastic has come unstuck from the card this causes the top of the doorcard to vibrate causing the the doorpin to rattle  :y  simply use some real good adhesive to re-stick  ;)
Oooo, you must have been lucky ;D

If only that was the cause of the majority of doorpin rattles ;D.  But an easy, often overlooked, check/fix :y
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: Andy H on 16 September 2012, 19:25:38
take the doorcard off and you will find that the top bit of plastic has come unstuck from the card this causes the top of the doorcard to vibrate causing the the doorpin to rattle  :y  simply use some real good adhesive to re-stick  ;)
Oooo, you must have been lucky ;D

If only that was the cause of the majority of doorpin rattles ;D.  But an easy, often overlooked, check/fix :y
The plastic strip is fixed by plastic pins through the fibre panel. Most of the pins sheared of on my passenger door when I had to replace the door locking motor recently.
It rattled before but it is much worse now >:(

I am going to try using polyester resin to bond it in place (in the hope that it will soak in and key into the fibre board rather than just pulling the top layer off.)
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: Sam Burton on 16 September 2012, 21:21:00
Thanks for the informative replies i will be investigating next week  :y
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: feeutfo on 16 September 2012, 23:19:33
IME the only thing that really works, for me, is to bend the door pin rod so the door pin leans back in the door card surround, thereby taking out the play. Means removing the door cars though, unless forcing the plastic door pin, but that risks breakage. :-\

Tried various stick on bits of tape and Velcro. All dislodged in time.
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2012, 08:58:20
IME the only thing that really works, for me, is to bend the door pin rod so the door pin leans back in the door card surround, thereby taking out the play. Means removing the door cars though, unless forcing the plastic door pin, but that risks breakage. :-\

Tried various stick on bits of tape and Velcro. All dislodged in time.
I'm at the stage of having to do that to TBE I reckon.

Bend it back towards back of car, or back towards the door/away from driver? Or both?
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 September 2012, 09:19:54
If your taking the door cards off, you might as well throw a set of early FL cards on  ::) '99-'00 should do it :y

Ended up with this solution by chance, as the door cards that I got from Rob happened to be from a W reg 8)

Not so much as a tap from them since :)
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2012, 09:28:16
If your taking the door cards off, you might as well throw a set of early FL cards on  ::) '99-'00 should do it :y

Ended up with this solution by chance, as the door cards that I got from Rob happened to be from a W reg 8)

Not so much as a tap from them since :)
Sadly I want to keep the later doorcards
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 September 2012, 10:00:54
Surely not because they are superior :D

Stupid thing is the only real difference is the hole for the door pin  ::)
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: feeutfo on 17 September 2012, 16:59:48
IME the only thing that really works, for me, is to bend the door pin rod so the door pin leans back in the door card surround, thereby taking out the play. Means removing the door cars though, unless forcing the plastic door pin, but that risks breakage. :-\

Tried various stick on bits of tape and Velcro. All dislodged in time.
I'm at the stage of having to do that to TBE I reckon.

Bend it back towards back of car, or back towards the door/away from driver? Or both?
bent mine out, as you look at it from sat in the car. So the top of the pin leans towards the glass.
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2012, 19:44:05
Surely not because they are superior :D

Stupid thing is the only real difference is the hole for the door pin  ::)
Its because they are in reasonable condition :)
Title: Re: Door Pins
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 September 2012, 20:30:32
Can't argue with that :y

I only discovered it by chance. When I swapped out the original plod interior, I transferred the surrounds to the beige early facelift cards that I put in. Waste of time that was, they rattled from the moment I fiited the cards ::)

Didn't bother this time around, (kept the surrounds though), and not a door pin rattle to be found anywhere 8).