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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: 05omegav6 on 20 September 2012, 10:06:48
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Right, I've just acquired a new Stag front end kit, comes with KME Silver vapouriser and Valtek 30 injectors :y
Just had a call from the supplier to say that they've been having issues with the reliability of the Valteks and that they are including a set of OMVL Superlight injectors instead :-\
Has any one heard of these and are they any good :-\
TIA, Al :y
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must be these..
http://www.gasit.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163 (http://www.gasit.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163)
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Watching with interest ;) I spoke to Teilo yesterday and he suggested the Valtek V30 BFC or MG injectors..
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Tbh, if they turn out to be pants, the injectors aren't the most expensive things :-\
must be these..
http://www.gasit.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163 (http://www.gasit.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163)
Hopefully there will be six of them ::)
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Watching with interest ;) I spoke to Teilo yesterday and he suggested the Valtek V30 BFC or MG injectors..
I had the impression you were an honest fella Aaron,but that is something I really cant believe. :D ;D
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Watching with interest ;) I spoke to Teilo yesterday and he suggested the Valtek V30 BFC or MG injectors..
I had the impression you were an honest fella Aaron,but that is something I really cant believe. :D ;D
I kid you not.. and get this - he emailed me! ;D
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Its an imposter. ::) ;D
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Watching with interest ;) I spoke to Teilo yesterday and he suggested the Valtek V30 BFC or MG injectors..
I had the impression you were an honest fella Aaron,but that is something I really cant believe. :D ;D
I kid you not.. and get this - he emailed me! ;D
:o :o :o :o
I must enquire if he has any Stag V6 kits left
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So do I have these unreliable injectors ? And is that why my lag has returned? :(
I presume the injections are at fault?
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This is the kit that I've bought
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-GPL-autogas-SGI-kit-Stag-300-plus-/300447974292?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2177352261950295237%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D300447974292%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-GPL-autogas-SGI-kit-Stag-300-plus-/300447974292?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2177352261950295237%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D300447974292%26)
If the injectors listed are the same as yours, then yes that might explain your issues :-\
The Superlights were offered to me as a free 'upgrade', but I don't recall anyone here using them :-\
The seller has assured me that they are at least the equivalent of the Valteks, are will work with the Stag kit with no issues :y
This will be going onto my next Mig, just as soon as I hear from young Josh ::)
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valtek 30 injectors are the biggest pile of crap i have encountered in my dealings with lpg systems,they were useless on my sts,and can barely power my range rover. i went to "magic" injectors.
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Pontentially a blessing then :-\
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Valtek 30's apparently have a bad name amongst the LPG community in terms of reliability. But Valtek 34's seem to be considered a lot more reliable. I hve no personal experience of either, so the above is hearsay. I run Emer injectors and they happily redline with no problems at all.
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So do I have these unreliable injectors ? And is that why my lag has returned? :(
I presume the injections are at fault?
No, you don't have them. They're the red Valteks ;)
Not sure why you have lag returned TBH... Perhaps we should have had a quick look over the weekend :-\
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This is the kit that I've bought
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-GPL-autogas-SGI-kit-Stag-300-plus-/300447974292?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2177352261950295237%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D300447974292%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-GPL-autogas-SGI-kit-Stag-300-plus-/300447974292?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2177352261950295237%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D300447974292%26)
If the injectors listed are the same as yours, then yes that might explain your issues :-\
The Superlights were offered to me as a free 'upgrade', but I don't recall anyone here using them :-\
The seller has assured me that they are at least the equivalent of the Valteks, are will work with the Stag kit with no issues :y
This will be going onto my next Mig, just as soon as I hear from young Josh ::)
Be interesting to see how complete that kit is and whether the KME Silver is man enough in real world use ;)
I might be able to find some time if you need a hand Al ;) :y
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Ah, LD.. Speaking of reducers - Teilo was suggesting an AC reducer, unless I'd specifically like the KME he's supplied to you guys before.. any thoughts?
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Will find out tomorrow when it's delivered :-\
Still need to source a tank and the bits for the rear end kit :y
Thank you for the offer, not sure when the car will be ready for fitting, but plan to have everything in place ready :y
Who is the prefered tank supplier? Was thinking Tinley Tech :-\
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I maybe wrong here but I thought it was the KME Gold's that was rated at 280 bhp ?
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Ah, LD.. Speaking of reducers - Teilo was suggesting an AC reducer, unless I'd specifically like the KME he's supplied to you guys before.. any thoughts?
Depends if you are willing to be a guinea pig ;)Will find out tomorrow when it's delivered :-\
Still need to source a tank and the bits for the rear end kit :y
Thank you for the offer, not sure when the car will be ready for fitting, but plan to have everything in place ready :y
Who is the prefered tank supplier? Was thinking Tinley Tech :-\
Tinley are very good but also very expensive. What tank are you going for?
Another company are FES (I think :-\), I've got contact details somewhere
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Thinking: 4-hole Full-Toroidal Tank 720x250 mm 82litres +V&B £279.00 if it fits :-\ been meaning to measure up the spare wheel well for the last week ::)
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650mm diameter is the largest that fits ;)
I went 650x270, 76L GZWM tank and Stako valve box so it doesn't need too much modification :y
Oh, and that seems a bit pricey to me :-\
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One of these: 4-hole Full-Toroidal Tank 650x270 mm 76litres +V&B £246.70?
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One of these: 4-hole Full-Toroidal Tank 650x270 mm 76litres +V&B £246.70?
Yep, but it must be a Stako valve box. It's a different shape ;) or the valve box needs modifying ;)
Still seems pricey unless it includes all the pipework :-\
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Stako is one of the two choices of valve box, does include the valves and box, but not the sender unit :-\
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why not try the bay of e, ie
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lpg-tank-73l-dougnut-/271060692432?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f1c79edd0
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Not ideal, being used and all :-\ personally I would prefer to fit a new tank rather than chance an old one :-\
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fine,how about this.
http://autogas-lpg.co.uk/-toroidal-tanks/276-bormech-650mm-270mm-72l-ZBW65027070.html
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plus one of these
http://autogas-lpg.co.uk/multivalve/126-multi-valve-tomasetto-0131.html
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Right, kit arrived this morning :y includes the programming disc and interface cable, wiring diagram and guarantee book... the wiring loom and associated parts are all clearly Autogaz AC. The loom is clearly a 6pot one :y
The injectors are Dream XXI SL. My only immediate concern is that they've sent me 2 rails of 4 injectors :-\
At risk of asking a stupid question, is this a problem?
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Nope :)
Just plug 3 in on each side :y
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Ta TG :y
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At risk of asking a stupid question, is this a problem?
Only ashetically, and making it a little harder to mount due to tight space.
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How much does this wrong kit cost? From someone who seems to be impossible to contact?
I am no expert, but if I had to do this by myself for the first time, I would use the bigas kit from tinley tech. Costs a bit more, but at least you get the right bits in time and first rate technical support form the guys at TT.
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No issues with the seller of the kit I've just bought :y
They rang me prior to dispatch to inform me that the injectors would be different, (hence my question), and answered the phone at the second ring when I rang to query the injectors that I was sent. :-\
This kit was not bought from Teilo, whom people seem to struggle with contacting :-\ I chose it purely because there is a lot of experience here with this particular lpg management system...
And in answer to you first question, £346. I could have bought it for a touch less from Poland, but chose a seller a bit closer to home :y
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Well done Al I tried to get contact them in Poland via mail but it was unsuccessful the given adress is not correct or not existing or so...