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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 15 October 2012, 23:19:33
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In January this year, whist in Turkey eating a delicious meal, I had a tremendous pain go through one of my rear molars, at the very back. I had a look at it in the mirror afterwards, and don't ask me how, there was quite a hole in the centre of the tooth. Lesson learnt, regular checkups, I've always brushed well and never thought anything like that could get to that stage, un-noticed!
So, I got home, and went to the dentist. After a rap on the knuckles for going 18 months without a checkup, he took an X-ray, and found the tooth was infected. He told me he would put a temporary filling in, and that I should come back to have it root canal treated, and then a permanent filling. Sounded good to me.
So I went back for the root canal. He administered the injections to numb the gum, and drilled out the temp filling. As he did this, I felt immense pain in the tooth - and nearly jumped out the chair. Although I couldn't feel my cheek/lip/tip of tongue, he gave me more anaesthetic, prodded the gums etc, and when totally satisfied I was aneasthetised up to the eyeballs, continued. The result? Exactly the same. As soon as that drill went in - agony. There was no way he could have done a root treatment, unless he could reach up to the celiing!
At this point, he said it was too infected, causing "hot pulp", basically meaning the anaesthetic couldn't get near enough to the nerve. He placed some antiseptic type stuff in the tooth, put another temp filling in, and said come back in 3 months.
3 months later - here I am again. As much anaesthetic as he dares to give me - and, long story short - exactly the same. He just cannot get in there without causing me real pain. I told him to carry on and I'll grip the chair... but he wasn't having it, said it was impossible, and to be fair to him, he was right. SO he said come back in a week, and he will have ordered some special anaesthetic which should do the trick. He said he may also have to inject some of this into the nerve, which would be very painful, but maybe the only option.
So - I come back again. This time, I don't mind adding - I am really anxious... the last few times have been really painful, and I didn't hold much hope. He again fills my gums full of this new anaesthetic (I won't pretend to know what it is) and injects something into my tooth with a funny hook like thing, which was horrendous.
Drilling begins - you guessed it..... not numb at alll >:( >:(
So, he puts some more stuff in there, another temp filling, and tells me there is no option other than to let the nerve die - and then root treat it. Tells me to come back in October to try again.
Well it's now October. Due to this and that, the appt. is not booked until early November, which I thought would be fine, as it wasn't at all painful day to day.
The last week, I've been in real pain with this tooth, radiating all up my face and over my head.
I've got to go back.... I know I have... but..... :'( :'(
I really, honestly, don't know what to do. I don't want to lose the tooth, I kinda rely on it for eating. Can one elect for general anaesthetic under such circumstances? I don't like the thought of that for one minute either... but I really don't know what else to do...
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Have it taken out, it wont affect your eating...... :)
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I can sympathise James. For some reason (probably bad experiences as a teen with some very bad Dentists in a services environment) I am completely petrified of the dentist :-[ To the point that I can't remember my last visit but it is probably late 90's :o :-[
I have lost a crown and a molar that is hollow after the filling came out but will not go as there's rarely any pain.
But, when that molar was filled he actually did the root canal by hand because the drill was too painful, even under sedation :o
Good luck with it
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Gawd that sounds horrendous James! :o
Tbh, I don't know why your dentist didn't mention a General Anaesthetic after the first two 'failures' :-\
There's obviously more of a risk involved, but a very slim chance of anything going awry these days, so it may be worth while you bringing the subject up next visit? I hope it all goes well for you :y
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Of course, if you have to have GA it will almost certainly be a long wait before the hospital can get you in ::)
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Cant get GA for fillings under NHS.Have to go private - a few hundred quid. Only NHS option will be to have it pulled.
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Cant get GA for fillings under NHS.Have to go private - a few hundred quid. Only NHS option will be to have it pulled.
A few hundred quid would be a small price to pay to get this sorted :y
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Do you really think a dentist would be driving a ten yr old Omega? ::) ::) ;)
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Cant get GA for fillings under NHS.Have to go private - a few hundred quid. Only NHS option will be to have it pulled.
My other half is also sh!t scared of the dentist and was knocked out to have a tooth removed,a shade over £300 it came to :'(
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Do you really think a dentist would be driving a ten yr old Omega? ::) ::) ;)
The thread title was somewhat tongue in cheek...
And, it wouldn't surprise me... ;D
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Got to admit my body has a real problem with dental anaesthetic.
Basicly it just not seem too work on me and when they crank the dose right up, it knocks me back to the point that im like a zombie for a couple of days. I haven't seen a dentist in over 25 years :-[
They really scare the poo out of me :-[ :-[
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will you lot just man up ;D
but I do sympothize with you it dose hurt like hell I had a molar out due to rotting away doesn't affect your eating unless you like eating mash potato for the rest of you life ;D ;D
have it removed job done :y
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I had a similar experience a year ago. It was decided that an extraction was the way to go - except that he couldn't get the tooth out :o.
Went back a week later and it came out dead easy .........
A year later the adjacent tooth is playing up so am having to have a crown fitted - two visits, one this thursday, the other a fortnight later :'( ...................
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If the tooth was that infected I'm surprised that you weren't given a course of antibiotics, and then told to return. Lidocaine is not affective for abcessed or badly infected teeth.
For it to go on for so long I would expect extraction to be the only real option, bearing in mind the effectiveness of anaesthetics in your case then a general is probably wise. No longer available on the NHS because a doctor had to be on hand to adminster it. You could try your local dental teaching hospital.
Eating will not be a problem, and if it's cosmetic or your bite is affected then a bridge or implant is an option or even a denture as a last option, mind you implants are very expensive. :y
I hope it goes well, just grin and bear it ::) ::)
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James, you have my sympathies too.
I had a nagging pain , earlier this year, under a rear lower molar for a few months. Had to go to the dentist when I got an abcess under a front upper tooth (incisor?) . 40 euros for an Xray which showed THREE abcesses (the rear molar, front upper and another I was unaware of). Antibiotics 9 euros, come back in a week and I will whip that molar out- you don't need it for eating he said. Two injections as when he started I could still feel it, came out easy enough. 40 more euros. No trouble since except I get peanuts etc stuck in the hole. Excellent dentist, no NHS here and reasonable prices.
I do hope you get it sorted. :y
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James, you have my sympathies too.
I had a nagging pain , earlier this year, under a rear lower molar for a few months. Had to go to the dentist when I got an abcess under a front upper tooth (incisor?) . 40 euros for an Xray which showed THREE abcesses (the rear molar, front upper and another I was unaware of). Antibiotics 9 euros, come back in a week and I will whip that molar out- you don't need it for eating he said. Two injections as when he started I could still feel it, came out easy enough. 40 more euros. No trouble since except I get peanuts etc stuck in the hole. Excellent dentist, no NHS here and reasonable prices.
I do hope you get it sorted. :y
At those prices it's worth a cheap flight over even if it's Ryan Air :y ;D
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OUCH...
Laura often has similar issues where the anaesthetic doesnt take, and has had issues with the Dentists not beleiving her as they have put that much in.
Anyway, there is a halfway house that sounds perfect...
Most County's have dental clinics, at these they can do what they need to, with a middle of the road treatment - Intravenous Sedation. Basically an injection which 'almost' knocks you out, but not quite.
I, for example had this to have my wisdom teeth taken out, as far as I remember, I slept through it!
Its for things that dont require GA, but the dentist cant do with normal methods.
May be worth a phone call to see if its an option :y
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::) Hells bells m8, I would not be using that dentist cos whatever the problem he/she should have been able to numb it and get it sorted.
I too had a really bad one and the pratt ended up breaking my jaw in two places. I was in agony fpr a week and went to the A&E where they took out 4 lumps of root he had missed! Changed my dentist and its been no hassle ever since. BUT I do go for every checkup!
Try another dentist even if it means you have to travel.....I am sure there are local oofers who can name one if you ask.
Best wishes m8, nothing like a bad tooth to cause pain. :-X
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Have it whipped out james , mashed potato and beans aint that bad :) dental pain is the worst pain ever and ive had every one took out that caused grief second time around . Eating meat just takes longer to chew but pain free is heaven :y
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OUCH...
Laura often has similar issues where the anaesthetic doesnt take, and has had issues with the Dentists not beleiving her as they have put that much in.
Anyway, there is a halfway house that sounds perfect...
Most County's have dental clinics, at these they can do what they need to, with a middle of the road treatment - Intravenous Sedation. Basically an injection which 'almost' knocks you out, but not quite.
I, for example had this to have my wisdom teeth taken out, as far as I remember, I slept through it!
Its for things that dont require GA, but the dentist cant do with normal methods.
May be worth a phone call to see if its an option :y
it is NOT unusual for a dentist to not be able to numb some people,as i need to attend hospital when a tooth need work as the sedation is the way to go,but you are not a sleep at all....you just don't what is going on,although you think you are a sleep you are not,but if you have it done don't go on your own as you might find as soon as fresh air hit you your legs go :y
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OUCH...
Laura often has similar issues where the anaesthetic doesnt take, and has had issues with the Dentists not beleiving her as they have put that much in.
Anyway, there is a halfway house that sounds perfect...
Most County's have dental clinics, at these they can do what they need to, with a middle of the road treatment - Intravenous Sedation. Basically an injection which 'almost' knocks you out, but not quite.
I, for example had this to have my wisdom teeth taken out, as far as I remember, I slept through it!
Its for things that dont require GA, but the dentist cant do with normal methods.
May be worth a phone call to see if its an option :y
it is the way to go,but you are not a sleep at all....you just don't what is going on,although you think you are a sleep you are not,but if you have it done don't go on your own as you might find as soon as fresh air hit you your legs go :y
I'll have some of that, now't wrong with my teeth tho' ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yes, that sums it up perfectly, great stuff :y
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I've been having root canal treatment since May. Seven visits to date and still my tooth hurts like buggery... :'( :'(
I'd change my dentist, but my current one is gorgeous. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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I've been having root canal treatment since May. Seven visits to date and still my tooth hurts like buggery... :'( :'(
I'd change my dentist, but my current one is gorgeous. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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I bet the pain goes away when your in the chair ;) ive changed dentists and also have a lady who is very attractive :-* you get to look right up her nose ::) 8)
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I'd change my dentist, but my current one is gorgeous. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
So's mine, as it happens. It certainly helps. :-*
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I've been having root canal treatment since May. Seven visits to date and still my tooth hurts like buggery... :'( :'(
I'd change my dentist, but my current one is gorgeous. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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I bet the pain goes away when your in the chair ;) ive changed dentists and also have a lady who is very attractive :-* you get to look right up her nose ::) 8)
Meanwhile she gets to see you gagging on burnt splinters of tooth and a mouthful of spittle which despite your best efforts is dribbling out of the corner of your mouth........
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Had the same James, been twice and neither time the xylocaine worked despite 4 barrels of it, even my frickin arse was numb ;D
Last temp filling has just popped out so it could be third time lucky :'(
By the way the sedation stuff they use is an amnesic, you just remember nothing about it. We used to do gastroscopies using it and all the housewives would tell you their deepest secrets such as: I'm shagging my husbands best mate, I let my labrador lick my lady bits :o ( both 100% true ). Was the best part of the job
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Had the same James, been twice and neither time the xylocaine worked despite 4 barrels of it, even my frickin arse was numb ;D
Last temp filling has just popped out so it could be third time lucky :'(
By the way the sedation stuff they use is an amnesic, you just remember nothing about it. We used to do gastroscopies using it and all the housewives would tell you their deepest secrets such as: I'm shagging my husbands best mate, I let my labrador lick my lady bits :o ( both 100% true ). Was the best part of the job
::) ::) ::) :-X
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Got to admit my body has a real problem with dental anaesthetic.
Basicly it just not seem too work on me and when they crank the dose right up, it knocks me back to the point that im like a zombie for a couple of days. I haven't seen a dentist in over 25 years :-[
They really scare the poo out of me :-[ :-[
same here the anaesthetic has little or no effect, even if they give me two or three jabs and a wait in the waiting room,
even general anaesthetic only knocks me out for a short time,
the dentist knows this and just drills anyway.
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FWIW James, I had root canal treatment a few years ago -£800 odd IIRC- after about 18 months the tooth broke and had to be removed. " Oh yes" said my NHS dentist (who recommended the expensive treatment),"they often break when the nerve is dead" ! >:(
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drink a bottle of Scotch.. you will remember nothing ;D
keep the tooth, if you discard it , you will see what is problem after..
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I had a wisdom tooth out in Bucharest a few years ago which was an interesting experience..... :-\ Cost about £20! :y
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James,
My eldest needed 2 injections for work on 2 teeth when she was younger and to eliminate pain, discomfort and the potential for a lifelong fear of dentists, she was sent to a dental clinic in Luton to have the work done under sedation.
Fantastic staff looked after us both like royalty.
She has no recollection of anything that happened beyond the wee pre med drink she was given.
She had it all done on NHS because of her age, but you should explore this method of treatment with your dentist.
All the best with it, but you need to push things with your dentist to get better care....... Or just have it pulled out.