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Title: For 50 quid....
Post by: cam2502 on 14 November 2012, 16:26:16
The computer is telling me I'll get 173 miles  >:(
This can't be right. And if it is... Anyone wanna buy an MV6 ??  ;D
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 14 November 2012, 16:33:46
That's about right :y drive it nicely and you may see 200 :y
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: omega3000 on 14 November 2012, 17:33:13
Sure when i put petrol in mine in dumps all over the floor  ::) £20 in mine hardly moves the needle  :( LPG is the way forward but no chance of that .
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 November 2012, 17:34:40
Sure when i put petrol in mine in dumps all over the floor  ::) £20 in mine hardly moves the needle  :( LPG is the way forward but no chance of that .

 
get a shopping trolley like mine.. ;D :y
 
so will double your cost ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D >:(
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: omega3000 on 14 November 2012, 17:38:07
Sure when i put petrol in mine in dumps all over the floor  ::) £20 in mine hardly moves the needle  :( LPG is the way forward but no chance of that .

 
get a shopping trolley like mine.. ;D :y
 
so will double your cost ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D >:(

Cleo is easier to push , not with my legs and back  ;D :(
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 14 November 2012, 17:46:51
The computer is telling me I'll get 173 miles  >:(
This can't be right. And if it is... Anyone wanna buy an MV6 ??  ;D

That would be based on your most recent MPG (around town?), but should go up with trunk road / motorway use. ;)
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2012, 17:54:21
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 14 November 2012, 20:08:17
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 November 2012, 20:14:37
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o

phew.. loking at the amount of money OOFers pumping for transportation, it wont be wrong to say we work for govt tax, shell ,exxon and mobil ;D
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 November 2012, 20:20:02
very roughly thats 21mpg. sounds about right round town
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 14 November 2012, 20:38:06
Don't panic Cem, it's not my diseasal :y
It will cost someone (else) another £135 or so to get back, plus the same again to fill it up ready for the next victimdriver :y
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Vamps on 14 November 2012, 23:10:57
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o

What in? a bus!............... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: omega3000 on 15 November 2012, 09:10:30
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o

What in? a bus!............... ::) ::) ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 November 2012, 12:56:12
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o

What in? a bus!............... ::) ::) ::)

Well it could be worse; a tank for instance!  6 gallons to the mile. ;D ;D
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 November 2012, 13:02:46
I can get upto 4 mpg out of the loco although more often than not its less!
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 November 2012, 13:13:14
I can get upto 4 mpg out of the loco although more often than not its less!


That must be cheaper than using coal in steam loco's! ;D ;D

Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 November 2012, 13:16:53
I can get upto 4 mpg out of the loco although more often than not its less!


That must be cheaper than using coal in steam loco's! ;D ;D

It when you consider bulk coal of decent quality (good Russian or the harder to get these days Welsh) is aroun 180-200 a ton now!
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 November 2012, 13:24:49
I can get upto 4 mpg out of the loco although more often than not its less!


That must be cheaper than using coal in steam loco's! ;D ;D

It when you consider bulk coal of decent quality (good Russian or the harder to get these days Welsh) is aroun 180-200 a ton now!

Blimey! :o :o 

And to think on the Mid-Hants Railway, if I remember correctly, the WC Class Pacific loco Bodmin used to use around two tons for about six 20 mile round trips.  As a Trainee Firewoman it was bloody hard work shifting that! ::)
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 November 2012, 17:01:28
Yes, then add on the £500+ day steaming fee, water treatment, motion oil and steam oil.....VERY expensive to run.

On the diesels its 100-200 a day hire charge, you pay for fuel, oil and brake blocks its a lot cheaper.

DMU's being even cheaper still.
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: doz on 15 November 2012, 17:08:59
I got less than 7mpg out of my Carlton GSi 24v. Mind you that was at Maraham track day!!!!!!! In fact the trip computer went into fault as it couldn't cope with that sort of abuse
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 November 2012, 17:10:34
Yes, then add on the £500+ day steaming fee, water treatment, motion oil and steam oil.....VERY expensive to run.

On the diesels its 100-200 a day hire charge, you pay for fuel, oil and brake blocks its a lot cheaper.

DMU's being even cheaper still.


Yes, and then add the annual inspection overhaul costs, followed by 5 year then 10 year mandatory exams with overhaul costs £150,000 upwards for even minor repairs on a small loco, and a Pacific, well name the price; £200/300,000+++!  The boiler usually has to be fully stripped down with a complete re-tube, and you start from there to get that precious insurance certificate!  :'(

For main line loco's, as you probably know, they have to be maintained to even higher, and more expensive, standards.  They MUST have regular steam excursion business to survive.  In the future, I fear, many will not :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 November 2012, 20:52:47
If it makes you feel any better, just driven from Lancing to Mancchester at an average of 13.8mpg :P

About £135 worth of diseasal  :o

What in? a bus!............... ::) ::) ::)
;D not quite, a 12ton Daf LF :y

Dropped it back this evening, having got the trip average from about 11 when I got in it up to 14.4mpg 8) inspite of the M25s best/worst efforts ::) incidently, its lifetime average is 13.7mpg over 40k.

Back out in it tomorrow, so Wiltshire had best stay indoors :D
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 November 2012, 20:57:19
I got less than 7mpg out of my Carlton GSi 24v. Mind you that was at Maraham track day!!!!!!! In fact the trip computer went into fault as it couldn't cope with that sort of abuse

My old 2.9 12v Granada rarely reached 20mpg ::) around town 8 was typical, if entertaining :-X did make a lovely v6 burbly noise infused with the dulcet tones of whooshing viscous fan and tyre squeal 8)
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: omega3000 on 15 November 2012, 21:42:46
I got less than 7mpg out of my Carlton GSi 24v. Mind you that was at Maraham track day!!!!!!! In fact the trip computer went into fault as it couldn't cope with that sort of abuse

My old 2.9 12v Granada rarely reached 20mpg ::) around town 8 was typical, if entertaining :-X did make a lovely v6 burbly noise infused with the dulcet tones of whooshing viscous fan and tyre squeal 8)

My old granada 2.9 was pretty good on fuel , £20 gave you half a tank back then  :)
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2012, 08:16:45
Yes, then add on the £500+ day steaming fee, water treatment, motion oil and steam oil.....VERY expensive to run.

On the diesels its 100-200 a day hire charge, you pay for fuel, oil and brake blocks its a lot cheaper.

DMU's being even cheaper still.


Yes, and then add the annual inspection overhaul costs, followed by 5 year then 10 year mandatory exams with overhaul costs £150,000 upwards for even minor repairs on a small loco, and a Pacific, well name the price; £200/300,000+++!  The boiler usually has to be fully stripped down with a complete re-tube, and you start from there to get that precious insurance certificate!  :'(

For main line loco's, as you probably know, they have to be maintained to even higher, and more expensive, standards.  They MUST have regular steam excursion business to survive.  In the future, I fear, many will not :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Depends on the line, biggest addition for mainline locos is the OTMR and legacy signaling plus the need for air brakes. If this is already equipped then the only additional is UAT and FTR inspections.....plus the HUGE wear they then suffer!

The boiler repair costs vary as tubes are not to expensive and it depends if you are subbing the work. We just did a boiler overhaul on an 'ugly' which ran to about 25K for tubes, about 50% new stays and welding work plus some new steel. Throw a copper tube plate in and major repair and the costs soon rocket!

One of the most useful additions we have made recently is a set of jacks for lifting locos, it means tyre turning, bogie swaps etc are now much easier and so much cheaper!
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: tunnie on 16 November 2012, 09:24:09
45 quid gets me 400 miles  :P
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2012, 09:38:59
45 quid gets me 400 miles  :P
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Yeh, I get about the same, about 600-650 miles fom the tank
Title: Re: For 50 quid....
Post by: omega3000 on 16 November 2012, 10:22:22
45 quid gets me 400 miles  :P

I need a new car  :'( :'( :'( :( I take it thats on lpg tunnie  :)