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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 21 November 2012, 13:30:09
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Has anyone read or heard what on earth is going on with this soldier who had a gun sent to him by the Iraqi Army?
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I read in the bbc earlier that he got 18 months but can't find the story now :(
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109200.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109200.0)
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I know there a petition for all who disagree with his imprisonment to sign. :y
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/military-justice-overturn-the-decision-to-jail-sgt-nightingale-for-18-onths
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Can't be arsed to google the details but iirc, he had the pistol in his house between 2007 and 2009.
2009 was when he had the accident and memory loss.
Sadly, I don't believe for one minute that he didn't know the pistol was in his house during those 2 years.
Does anybody really believe he didn't unpack his own kit when he got back so imo he is guilty as hell and tbh, he got off lightly because if it was me or you, we would be looking at a 5 years ;)
At the end of the day, all he had to do was pop into the armoury or register it with the Mod plods and all would have been ok.
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Can't be arsed to google the details but iirc, he had the pistol in his house between 2007 and 2009.
2009 was when he had the accident and memory loss.
Sadly, I don't believe for one minute that he didn't know the pistol was in his house during those 2 years.
Does anybody really believe he didn't unpack his own kit when he got back so imo he is guilty as hell and tbh, he got off lightly because if it was me or you, we would be looking at a 5 years ;)
At the end of the day, all he had to do was pop into the armoury or register it with the Mod plods and all would have been ok.
To a certain extent ... all true .. but ignores the 300+ rounds of ammunition stored under a bed ..... :(
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Can't be arsed to google the details but iirc, he had the pistol in his house between 2007 and 2009.
2009 was when he had the accident and memory loss.
Sadly, I don't believe for one minute that he didn't know the pistol was in his house during those 2 years.
Does anybody really believe he didn't unpack his own kit when he got back so imo he is guilty as hell and tbh, he got off lightly because if it was me or you, we would be looking at a 5 years ;)
At the end of the day, all he had to do was pop into the armoury or register it with the Mod plods and all would have been ok.
To a certain extent ... all true .. but ignores the 300+ rounds of ammunition stored under a bed ..... :(
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There goes his 'Get of Jail Free' card! He has no excuse, EVERY Serviceman is given the pep talk re; Unlawfully removing ammunition from the Service Environment it is issued for. Even ONE round would have put you in Chokey in my day :o
Then again I would have needed an extension ladder to climb into bed 'cos 300 x 4.5" projectiles takes up a bit of room ::)
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Being an ex squaddie who's seen action does not exclude you from obeying the law.
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Guilty as charged.should of handed it in
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Guilty as charged.should of handed it in
+1 :y
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I see the ITV news are still being VERY picky on what they report ..
He was "given" the pistol
He had an "accident" that caused him to forget
No mention of the 2 years between those events
No mention of the 300+ rounds ammunition
No mention that he was a weapons instructor,and so TAUGHT the rules he has broken
No mention that despite his "accident" he is back on full time service (and i don't se the SAS sending someone on Ops to "sandyside" with memory loss .......
Every military person I know, and all the military forums, are saying he knew the rules and broke them ... but an attractive blonde wife makes a good story for the press....
Never let the truth get in the way .........
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I see the ITV news are still being VERY picky on what they report ..
He was "given" the pistol
He had an "accident" that caused him to forget
No mention of the 2 years between those events
No mention of the 300+ rounds ammunition
No mention that he was a weapons instructor,and so TAUGHT the rules he has broken
No mention that despite his "accident" he is back on full time service (and i don't se the SAS sending someone on Ops to "sandyside" with memory loss .......
Every military person I know, and all the military forums, are saying he knew the rules and broke them ... but an attractive blonde wife makes a good story for the press....
Never let the truth get in the way .........
too many people get away with crime at present time. my friend got 3 and a half yrs in may and he's out Friday with his 5 months remand last yr and tag its all over.
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As an ex-squaddie....you do the crime and you do the time....he knew the rules as laid out in clear language in the Queens Regulations, easy as that.
Problem is that the gutter press and bottom feeder reporters and presenters are at it again.
Maybe it is those who should do the time.................. ;)
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I heard in the news yesterday that he has been granted an appeal in the next week or two. Will be interesting to see what the outcome is.
IMHO, "Hero" or not, putting a shedload of ammo and an unlicensed firearm under your bed in the first place is an offence, regardless of whether you subsequently "forget" about it. If he were such a hero I'd expect him to graciously accept that he's in the wrong and do his time.
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I heard in the news yesterday that he has been granted an appeal in the next week or two. Will be interesting to see what the outcome is.
IMHO, "Hero" or not, putting a shedload of ammo and an unlicensed firearm under your bed in the first place is an offence, regardless of whether you subsequently "forget" about it. If he were such a hero I'd expect him to graciously accept that he's in the wrong and do his time.
Sorry to disagree Kevin ... he has NOT been "granted the right to appeal" that right has always existed !!! .. Quick google on "Court Martial Appeal Court" will show that ... what his "team" have managed to do is to "fast track" the date of the hearing.
Unfortunately the grounds for that "fast tracking" have not been made public so far, AFAIK
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People are obviously letting the fact that this bloke has seen active service cloud their judgement! >:(
I find it quite worrying that we have a man who has had a brain injury causing memory loss (possibly got Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?) has an unlicensed gun with plenty of bullets under his bed!! :-\
What if he'd snapped...... ???
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Just so folks are "in the picture" as it were ...and without reading the whole transcript of the Court martial I posted in the other thread ...
Prohibited items found at Sgt Nightingale's address
1x Glock 9mm pistol
122 x 9mm live rounds of ammunition
50 x 9mm frangible rounds of ammunition
40 x 7.62mm live rounds of ammunition
50 x 338 armour piercing live rounds of ammunition
2 x .308 live rounds of ammunition
74 x 5.56mm live rounds of ammunition
and this was 3 years after returning from Iraq and a year after his "injury"
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Must have been a multi calibre pistol he was given ::) ::) ;D ;D
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Looks like he's gotten away with it .. although not sure what message this sends out .. :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20547557
12 months imprisonment, suspended... :(
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Amazing what getting your wife to blub on the sofa infront of Loraine Kelly first thing in the morning can get you ;)
Nightingale is a very lucky man