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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Zippy2012 on 25 November 2012, 22:50:12
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Last night at 2am driving back from ludlow to worcester in torrential rain after going threw loads of floods around 6/12" deep everything fine...
ok my car is 45mm lower on front & 70mm on rear i still carried on!!
i then came across a flood that as i entered it quickly came up to headlights so backed up quickly...
my ets sensor is fked so my engine elec fan doesnt work so ive been using my AC fans to keep engine cool when sat stationary,
as i sat there waiting for a larger vehical or anything to come towards me down the road so i could guage its depth the car was sat happy at 90'c with AC running,
waited & waited no cars.... nothing..... after about 15mins of waiting i went to get out of car & noticed the dry part of road was now 3" deep & touching sideskirts "rather hell that came up quick!!!"
as i started to back down the road a police 4X4 came up behind me and said the road behind me was now closed after the river had burst so my only choice was forward!!! before where i was sat would be under 3ft of water because i was in a dip!!
ahh i wondered where the water had come from.... ???
So he said tuck up behind him & just keep going!!! or abandon my car & hope for the best.... YEAH RIGHT NO CHANCE!!!!!!!
HE DIDNT SAY THE FLOOD WAS 1/2MILE LONG & 2 FEET DEEP!!!! >:(
as his exhaust dissapered then his bumper!! then my headlights went dark with water coming up my bonnet!!!! & my exhaust went silent!!
i could hear the revs climbing as the rear of car started to lift up & float!!! with my foot decked thinking OH...S.....T if this cuts out its scrap!!!
the 4X4 came up out of the water so did my lights as i pulled up 100ft from the flood!!!
checking my footwells ..... Umm all dry!!! bonus!! :o opened boot all dry!!!
Opened bonnet engine all dry not even damp!!! awesome!!! ;D
only prob 1cm of water in n/s foglight thats ok then or so i thort....
grill bumper alloys wipers full of twigs leaves u name it it was prob stuck in somewhere!!!
Then OH BUGGER!!! :'( AC STILL SWITCHED ON BUT NO FANS!! i cleared as much debris as poss but AC Fans still dead...
Have i blown a fuse...???
Or a Relay???
with engine running i push AC button engine revs change but still no fans... the fuse box in engine bay still nice & dry ive looked on the forum at fuse box AC relay fuses positions but calnt see the fuse location but there are 3 fking relays!!!
Any Ideas as i need the AC fans to work till i can fix the ets switch!!
only other issue is my clutch slipping like hell but im sure it dry out in a day or so...
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Sorry Zippy I can't help, but that sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Glad you made it home, relatively unscathed :y
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ive found the under bonnet relay positions but cant find main fuses under steering wheel illustrations
because i know some fuses do more than 1 circuit etc...
why does the V6 have 3 AC RELAYS!!!!
Cheers mate took me 7hrs to get from Anglesea back to worcester which norm takes me 3 half hours....
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ive found the under bonnet relay positions but cant find main fuses under steering wheel illustrations
because i know some fuses do more than 1 circuit etc...
why does the V6 have 3 AC RELAYS!!!!
Cheers mate took me 7hrs to get from Anglesea back to worcester which norm takes me 3 half hours....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90451.0
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ive found the under bonnet relay positions but cant find main fuses under steering wheel illustrations
because i know some fuses do more than 1 circuit etc...
why does the V6 have 3 AC RELAYS!!!!
Cheers mate took me 7hrs to get from Anglesea back to worcester which norm takes me 3 half hours....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90451.0
AHH Cheers rob!! missed the word cabin off my search!! Cheers :y i have a look!!
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The air intake sits quite low,so if I were you I would check you havent sucked in a load of water. ;)
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The air intake sits quite low,so if I were you I would check you havent sucked in a load of water. ;)
you'd know if you sucked up water through the air intake ................. the engine would very quickly stop!! ::)
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The air intake sits quite low,so if I were you I would check you havent sucked in a load of water. ;)
Quite low... its right across the middle of the grill..!! & nope it sucked up fk all coz i unclipped the airbox just incase of that but most ppl would get caught out by that tho!!
cars engine runs perfect except slipping clutch...
RobG ive looked at the fuse diagram is it fuses 4 14 15 33..???
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If the air con compressor is engaging but no fans, then the problem will be in the ECU box by the battery or the fans themselves. Couple of fuses and a host of relays in here. Diagnosis is therefore not easy. I think I'd unplug each fan motor and test them individually with a 12v supply first.
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If the air con compressor is engaging but no fans, then the problem will be in the ECU box by the battery or the fans themselves. Couple of fuses and a host of relays in here. Diagnosis is therefore not easy. I think I'd unplug each fan motor and test them individually with a 12v supply first.
Mate have u seen where them sodding plugs are!!! i have a look in the main ECU box then coz all of my main fuses in cabin look ok & everything else is working..
The AC fans were working before i entered the flood my own fault should of turned them off, but once i came out of other end fans dead but AC light on switch still on pump engaged but no fans... i check the relays 1st & see if theirs any other fuses blown if no joy may of shorted both fan motors i guess...??
Ive just got my Main engine cooling fan to work by pushing the switching side of relay against contact, so if she starts to get hot atleast i have some cooling if i manually operate the relay..
i see if i can do the same with the AC ones....
Back out in the RAIN AGAIN!!!!!
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The air intake sits quite low,so if I were you I would check you havent sucked in a load of water. ;)
you'd know if you sucked up water through the air intake ................. the engine would very quickly stop!! ::)
Unless it sat gurgling in the bottom of the bagpipes. ;)
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didnt know you knew meaning of slow glynn, thought it flat out or stopped
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1176560725
on the 3rd diagram down under x30xe are fuses F50 & F52 there is another 30A fuse inbetween them which was what had blown!! ???
Guess you could call it F51..??? :-\
Replaced Fuse now all ok!! :y
Well except my slipping clutch but im sure by time i get to birmingham tomorrow it should have dried out...
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Unless it sat gurgling in the bottom of the bagpipes. ;)
Gurgling at the bottom of the bagpipes isn't the same as being sucked into the engine ;) ;) ;)
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didnt know you knew meaning of slow glynn, thought it flat out or stopped
Well on the way to isle of Anglesea on friday night i went threw the conway tunnels at 140+ sounded awesome!!!! worcester to Anglesea in 3hours but as the conway tunnel was closed on A55 on way back i went down the A5 awesome road to drive down to shrewsbury!! but M54 closed so went A49 & roads got worse & worse also got home with my neerside sideskirt hanging off!! due to amount of puddles i hit at 60+ but then when i got to ludlow couldnt go any quicker than 20 due to sheer amount of water on the roads!!
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Presumably, if the air filter is dry then no harm done :-\
Have noticed that my clutch only really slips in the peshing rain. Wonder if the rubber grommet between the flywheel and the sump has fallen out :-\ Shall have a look at the next oil change...
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Presumably, if the air filter is dry then no harm done :-\
Have noticed that my clutch only really slips in the peshing rain. Wonder if the rubber grommet between the flywheel and the sump has fallen out :-\ Shall have a look at the next oil change...
Yep mine is missing noticed it a few weeks ago need to find one in a scrappy because local motor factors dont list one...
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i had to go to hereford in truck on thurs night, oh what fun i had, think the yellow coach driver coming other way wasnt too pleased when i painted it brown with muddy water as went through a flood flat out but i was fully loaded with a container of 32tonnes full of hieniken heading to the usa
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i had to go to hereford in truck on thurs night, oh what fun i had, think the yellow coach driver coming other way wasnt too pleased when i painted it brown with muddy water as went through a flood flat out but i was fully loaded with a container of 32tonnes full of hieniken heading to the usa
So if Hieniken made a awful flooded fun road that would of been it!!!
my mig looks like its been in a swamp!! bottom 2ft clean.. ish.. bonnet windows & roof are yellowy brown colour from muddy clay water coming off fields & been flung over roof!!
i was really surprised that it could get threw that depth of water without faltering once engine still smooth even with exhaust fully submerged water was coming up the bonnet & up on to windscreen !! worrying bit was when rear of car started to float & slew sideways even with 200kgs of tools in the boot!!!! the 19s must of acted like propellers pushing it along!!
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as long as running and air intake clear and no way water can enter it takes a lot of water to stop them, i had my vectra through a good foot and half on way home same night, nearly shat myself as realized road flooded cause i was doing close on 70 towards it
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Just a fuse? You're nearly as lucky as me :D
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A tip I heard on another forum that I shall pass on, as it sounded sensible:
If you do go through a deep flood, and water is over the sills, when you get to the other side, stick the heater on full blast and try to warm up and dry out the interior as fast/much as possible as this will help to eliminate any water ingress into any under seat ecu`s and help to dry them out before they fail and potentially corrode over time.
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Thanks for the post I was just about to ask on the forum what depth a V6 would likely cope with
The air intake sits quite low,so if I were you I would check you havent sucked in a load of water. ;)
you'd know if you sucked up water through the air intake ................. the engine would very quickly stop!! ::)
Yes I would expect the weak point to be the air intake. On an Astra GTE I went through about 2 feet years ago, got through OK but a lot of steam was coming from the exhaust (out of, not off of). On checking the air filter it was soaked through. I think I was very lucky - if a lot of water gets past the air filter you get 'hydraulic damage' - water filling up the cylinders, not being able to go anywhere and breaking the con rods. Seen a Lexus engine written off that way.
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Wave height or standing water would need to be 24" to reach air intake, but remove the front pipe from the air box and you gain another 2-3", effectively another foot, allowing for the sheltering effect of the wing/headlight/radiator keeping the water out of the engine bay, just keep moving forward steadily :y if you do have to stop, switch off immediately, put the ac panel to recirculation, into neutral and handbrake off and out the window.
That way you minimise the chance of getting water in the engine or car and the car can still be pushed out. Don't try to restart it until you're sure most of the water has drained from the exhaust, and that the air intake is dry :y