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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: albitz on 07 December 2012, 13:47:17
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The LPG "certificate" for my car doesnt really look like the example Ive seen which is apparently needed for the LPG register.
Does anyone know if the one I have will be ok ? :-\
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/Albs59/DSCF1657.jpg)
http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/uploads/DOC4F33C82D095C8.pdf
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I think you have to contact the original tester/fitter and they should be able to add it to the register for free.
AFAIK, all the old certs are now not really valid, as its the database that is used?
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The PDF you link to is an example of the "old" certificate before UKLPG got there mucky fingers in the pie.
There is now no such thing as an "LPG Certificate" .. you are either on the "register" or you are not.
What you now have is a certificate of compliance that you can submit to UKLPG with a request to be included on the register.
DriveLPG and UKLPG are one and the same I believe...
http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/advice-and-information/faqs/
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Perhaps I didnt word my original question properly.I want to put my car on the LPG register.From reading the info on the site I believe I have to send them my old certificate and then they will add my car to the register.
My query is that the "certificate" I have doesnt look anything like (or have much of the info included) the one shown as an example on the site.So Im not sure if they will accept it and add my car to the register.
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Perhaps I didnt word my original question properly.I want to put my car on the LPG register.From reading the info on the site I believe I have to send them my old certificate and then they will add my car to the register.
My query is that the "certificate" I have doesnt look anything like (or have much of the info included) the one shown as an example on the site.So Im not sure if they will accept it and add my car to the register.
AFAIK, you should be able to get the original installer to do this. TBH, they should have already.
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Perhaps I didnt word my original question properly.I want to put my car on the LPG register.From reading the info on the site I believe I have to send them my old certificate and then they will add my car to the register.
My query is that the "certificate" I have doesnt look anything like (or have much of the info included) the one shown as an example on the site.So Im not sure if they will accept it and add my car to the register.
AFAIK, you should be able to get the original installer to do this. TBH, they should have already.
Contact the fitter... If he can't/won't do it then go down the other route but make sure you copy that inspection cert before sending it ;)
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i had same problem with mine other week, first time that insurance had queried it not on register, i took it to the origianal fitters and to put on the lpg database they charged 20 quid,this was just for the registration onto site but i think it more for his time, was lot cheaper then going to another garage and being charged anythink up to 100 quid for a full compliance check
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Thanks for the advice chaps.Will contact original installer ,although Im not taking it back for them to inspect it as they are incompetent and too far away.If they wont add it to the register for me,then I will copy my certificate and send off the original and hope for the best. :y
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I have a certificate for mine, but I don't think it's on a database. :-\ Should it be? What are the advantages/disadvantages? ???
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yes it should, installers are supposed to update thier records. phone up your instasller/inspector and ask them why they havent done it.
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disadvasntages are, if its not on the database if you try to change insurers they wont insure the car if you tell them it has lpg fitted.
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I've never had a problem with insurance so it must be OK! Thanks!! :y
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I have been studying all the comparison sites recently trying to get the best deal.Its been hellishly complicated because I want to insure two cars and one of them has LPG.I have had to ring round all the possible companies and try to find out their criteria for insuring an LPG car.If I get it on the register at least I know I wont be turned down and it removes one of the complicating factors from the process.
It would be simpler to renew with Aviva but it looks like Im going to save a fair bit of wedge by moving. ;)
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my vectra has a diy kit on it and axa dont need it put as a mod on there site, hth anyone struggling
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my vectra has a diy kit on it and axa dont need it put as a mod on there site, hth anyone struggling
Be aware, in the event of a claim, not being on the official register is an easy way out for them...
UKLPG are incompitent, and fitters even more so, but all fitters should have updated the register FOC from their historic records.
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UPDATE.
Tried contacting the original installer,London Petroleum gas co.ltd, but it quickly became clear that they were no longer trading.Google shows that it was due to the fact he was a cowboy who destroyed a bloke Jaguar.The bloke got his teeth into him and after a year got him to court and was awarded damages for the ruination of his beloved car.The response was to close the company and carried on regardless in the name of his other company - Sovereign Classics,who restore Jaguars and fit LPG systems. ::) ;D
http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=319
Google also shows that Sovereign classics have now stopped trading.Something to do with failing to file any accounts iirc. ::)
I contacted the LPG register today and they were brilliant.They said he was a registered installer at the time my car was converted and if I posted the paperwork to them they should be able to add my car to the register,although it may take longer than usual due to Christmas holidays etc.
I emailed them a thankyou and attache the pic of the certificate he issued.They replied an hour later to say that they had added the car to the register.I cehcked,and sure enough its on there. :)
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That IS good news Albs! :y
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Even though Ive always considered the register to be a bit of a con and a waste of time,I was very impressed with the speed of their response and complete lack of BS or broken promises,which seems to be the norm wqhen dealing with any organisation these days. :y
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Well done Albs. :y
Just need to get you certified now ;D ;D ;D ;D
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good news :y
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Well done Albs. :y
Just need to get you certified now ;D ;D ;D ;D
That may be a little easier :D ;D ;D
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Well done Albs. :y
Just need to get you certified now ;D ;D ;D ;D
That may be a little easier :D ;D ;D
That happened years ago. ;) ;D ;D
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Good result mate :y
Now where's my white coat ..........
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Well done Albs. :y
Just need to get you certified now ;D ;D ;D ;D
That may be a little easier :D ;D ;D
Was just wondering if it's possible to be certified twice ::)
That happened years ago. ;) ;D ;D
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UPDATE.
...added the car to the register.I cehcked,and sure enough its on there. :)
Good result but this just goes to show how worthless the register is, it would be better used in conjunction with the M.O.T. database so that examiners could scrutinize the lpg installation every tear...
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UPDATE.
...added the car to the register.I cehcked,and sure enough its on there. :)
Good result but this just goes to show how worthless the register is, it would be better used in conjunction with the M.O.T. database so that examiners could scrutinize the lpg installation every tear...
mot testers struggle with the basics sometimes, never mind adding LPG.
Training would be prohibitive, given the number of gas cars on the road.
The main issue IME, is insurers, they simply are not up to speed on the process. They still look for a certificate, if they are even close to being up to speed, and don't recognise the on line register(generally speaking) there by relying on the customer to explain it to them, and all the frustration that goes with that conversation can be infuriating, to say the least.
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Fuel system is already part of the MOT. LPG installation becomes part of the fuel system upon installation.
A car would fail an MOT if part of the LPG system was leaking fuel, insecure or visually degraded.
... But the MOT rightly focuses on the condition of the notifiable parts of a car, not on the conformance of its' installation, so whether the car is on the register or not is irrelevant. If the parts exist on the car they are part of the test.
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Although its nice to hear a good experience with them in Albs case. :y