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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: r1 on 07 December 2012, 23:12:19
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its going to be a cold christmas
our boiler is in the loft and its had its day so had a quote to day from british gas as theydo payment plans,they had a look round to see if it could go else where but there isnt. they want 4k as its not straight forward,phoned a couple of other places but cant even get them to come round before christmas as they are to busy.
merry christmas :'(
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Well you certainly want to be getting some other quotes...... :y
Putting the boiler in the loft is something I keep meaning to explore, we have a fire and back boiler in the lounge and I really would like to put in an open fire or stove, but gas only goes to this point and concrete floors in the back half and to far to head for the garage - gas and water pipes..... ::) ::) ::)
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its going to be a cold christmas
our boiler is in the loft and its had its day so had a quote to day from british gas as theydo payment plans,they had a look round to see if it could go else where but there isnt. they want 4k as its not straight forward,phoned a couple of other places but cant even get them to come round before christmas as they are to busy.
merry christmas :'(
4K? ROFL!
Get a sensible quote! :y
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What's wrong with the old one? and why can't it be fixed? ::)
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what 4000£ :o even gold plated one wont cost this much >:(
here the most expensive one is around 1200 £
http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html (http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html)
http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html (http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html)
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Good old British Gas. Chances are the boiler would be an easy fix, they just get a kick back out of selling overpriced boiler changes. £4k! Got to be double the going rate, surely? I'd get someone round you can trust for a 2nd opinion.
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we paid less than that to install a complete central heating system. (warm air boiler failed)
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4K you can get a complete heating installed and a new bathroom suite ,get other quotes as that is fing expensive
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what 4000£ :o even gold plated one wont cost this much >:(
here the most expensive one is around 1200 £
http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html (http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html)
http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html (http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html)
You can buy boilers here for a similar price Cem, but it's the fitting that costs!!! Having said that I had a boiler replaced last winter for £800 (TRY 2300? :-\)
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So, let's say £1k for the boiler. Flushing the system and a like for like replacement can't take more than 2 days for a decent plumber, I'd have thought. If 3K's the going rate for 2 days' work as a plumber I'm in the wrong job here! ;D
That said, my neighbour has been trying to get someone out to change a motorised valve. they've all knocked off for Christmas round here. No ruddy surprised! >:(
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yep, they get paid too much
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
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we paid less than that to install a complete central heating system. (warm air boiler failed)
also had a cloakroom sweet, shower taps fitted, and an elecctric shower removed.
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
in the loft? sounds like normal british gas malarky to me
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
in the loft? sounds like normal british gas malarky to me
.. British Gas?
Not for an oil fired boiler, surely.
Have you tried Railtrack? ;D
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
in the loft? sounds like normal british gas malarky to me
6 years ago, 4 different plumbers (including a friend of the family) ranging from £3.5k to £7k to replace our oil fired boiler in the airing cupboard :o :o
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So, let's say £1k for the boiler. Flushing the system and a like for like replacement can't take more than 2 days for a decent plumber, I'd have thought. If 3K's the going rate for 2 days' work as a plumber I'm in the wrong job here! ;D
That said, my neighbour has been trying to get someone out to change a motorised valve. they've all knocked off for Christmas round here. No ruddy surprised! >:(
You could do that for them Kev...its a doddle.....if I can do it anyone can !!!!!!!! :y
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
in the loft? sounds like normal british gas malarky to me
6 years ago, 4 different plumbers (including a friend of the family) ranging from £3.5k to £7k to replace our oil fired boiler in the airing cupboard :o :o
Not quite the same....but the variation is...I sent out tenders to 9 decorating companies for the Centre....£3000 to £9000 were the results :o
All trades are 'at it'
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If the OP has oil fired heating it's not that far fetched... They are stupidly expensive ;)
in the loft? sounds like normal british gas malarky to me
.. British Gas?
Not for an oil fired boiler, surely.
Have you tried Railtrack? ;D
no, for a basic combi. Knowing them.
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4k??? thats ridiculous.
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combi to combi change max 2 days,ive done boiler changes with in 3 hrs fom removing to installing,checking it runs ok and making good to flue etc.
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Boiler fitting is hardly difficult and being in Nottingham its a fair bet its gas. The parts are sub a grand for a good one and one to two days fitting
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Me parents just had a complete boiler installation with new rads and pipes from scratch that cost £2500 , 3 days work ..
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Had mine done...new boiler, time clock, etc, lots of new pipework and electrical wiring ....super job...£2,100 :y
This included rellocating the boiler, and brickwork for condensating pipe
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Last boiler I replaced (for Mrs TBs dad, when the heat exchanger on the old one sprang a leak), cost about £600 all in, and done in a day and a half, including replacing all components (timer/valves/stats), and some electrical and pipe reworking.
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BG are expensive - I think my parents paid around £4k for theirs, though that included moving the boiler from the kitchen to the garage, and replacing half the radiators..
I paid ~£2200 for;
Chemically clean heating system & flush; Replace boiler; Replace programmer and room thermostat; Replace programmer and room thermostat; Remove hot water cylinder.
Fit Magnaclean
Remove old shower, repair tiling, install new hot & cold feeds for shower and fit new shower valve.
Replace faulty radiator in bedroom.
Re-pipe incorrectly fitted towel radiator in ground floor shower room.
Took him the best part of a week as new bodges by the previous owners kept appearing ::)
Unfortunately the closest plumber I know to Notts is in York, which isn't much help to the OP..
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what 4000£ :o even gold plated one wont cost this much >:(
here the most expensive one is around 1200 £
http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html (http://bengikombi.com/Kategori/Viessmann-pmk90.html)
http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html (http://www.bengikombi.com/Kategori/Vaillant-pmk87.html)
You can buy boilers here for a similar price Cem, but it's the fitting that costs!!! Having said that I had a boiler replaced last winter for £800 (TRY 2300? :-\ )
yep .. :y
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its a normal gas fired boiler replacing a combi with a combi only hard bit is getting the flue through the roof.
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So what's wrong with the old one r1 ? Why are you scrapping it?
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Thats expensive and i bet they are using the fact its so close to christmas to inflate there prices.
my dad is a heating enginneer in coventry and his prices are very competative. he couldnt comment on how much it would cost for sure but he says 4 K is supid money.
He is always snowers with work this time of year he works 12 hour days to keep his client base happy and he hates making people wait without heating although he will attempt to get there same day if it elderly or someone with young children. This year is very busy for some reason. he works christmas eve and boxing day for emergencies and i know mother monitors the phone xmas day!
you need to find out what wrong with your old boiler to get you through xmas look at getting someoil heaters they arnt expnsive and are not to expensive to run ether.
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Another shout for oil heaters. :)
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whilst i was out with a few friends today,1 who is an ex british gas engineer,4k is the right price they charge,but we had a discussion about it and both agree it was way over priced,i did even ask if he might do a quote for the op but he hasnt got the time to do it and its to far for him to travel aswell,price around £1800 is more like it,dependant on boiler used.
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18 months ago BG quoted me £9.5k for a new boiler :o. The quote included an uprated gas supply and 35mm pipework. Basically an overspecced system. ::)
Got a number of quotes and settled for one with a 5 year warranty on the boiler for £2600. Guy was with us all day everyday for 2 weeks as there was a lot of work due to pipework re-routing as the original system was badly laid out. I know the new boiler was a grand so was quote happy with the price.
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well made 2 appointments today and no one showed up,no phone call or anything.
>:( >:(
the boiler is about 10 years old (its a baxie 105e) the proplem seams to be the flue they say the flue is wrong (but its been okayfor years) and getting the flue through the roof.
martin42,marie and others thanks
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what is the problem? does it start then stop ? noises or lights?
flue problem to close to something or damaged?
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http://www.baxi.co.uk/docs/Baxi_Combi_105_HE_Installation_and_Servicing_Instructions.pdf
page 19 shows what the vertical flue kit should be like,if it is like that then the correct 1 has been fitted hth :y
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well made 2 appointments today and no one showed up,no phone call or anything.
>:( >:(
the boiler is about 10 years old (its a baxie 105e) the proplem seams to be the flue they say the flue is wrong (but its been okayfor years) and getting the flue through the roof.
martin42,marie and others thanks
Would nit trust them tbh. Spoke to my old man again and said @2k dependent on make of boiler your boiler must have a fault else where as the flue shouldn't make it pack up.
My boiler has thrown a wobbly this week have heating on despite turning it off and no hot water. Parts arrive tomorrow :) double failure lol good thing for me is I don't pay to fix this house as it-shirts mod. This time next week all my stuff will be on a lorry :)
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got a couple of quotes for 2k now so am having to bite the bullet and get it done
now ive just got to find the cash!
the chaps moveing it from the loft to the kids bedroom,half the proplem with the old one is to do the flue right they need to but up scaffolding so thats 800 before you start.
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I still find it odd that a 10 year old boiler gets written off so easily. Parts must still be available. Unless a combination of high value parts have failed in it, surely the sensible option would be to fix it? :-\
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got a couple of quotes for 2k now so am having to bite the bullet and get it done
now ive just got to find the cash!
the chaps moveing it from the loft to the kids bedroom,half the proplem with the old one is to do the flue right they need to but up scaffolding so thats 800 before you start.
I had boiler removed from the small bedroom and into the bathroom. Just didn't like the idea of a boiler in a bedroom, regarding fumes and carbon monoxide.
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I'm with Kevin on this one...... What is actually the problem with the flue? Is it working at the moment? Is it a regulation issue? ???
Not sure I'd want a boiler in a bedroom mostly because they're noisy, but the consequences if it goes wrong, especially in the kids bedroom don't bear thinking about..... :-\
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Indeed. A boiler coming on at god knows when in the morning is that last thing you need in a bedroom.
This sounds so much like a "head gasket, mate" diagnosis from a poor mechanic. Diagnostic skills aren't up to locating the actual problem, don't fancy the job anyway, so you pick something expensive that will make the job a non-starter (the "faulty" inaccessible flue) and either get a really nice earner pulling it all apart and replacing it with something you're more comfortable with or the customer goes elsewhere.
Ask yourself what has changed with the flue that has been working OK for 10 years. It's a pipe that goes through the wall and ends. Granted, he might have spotted something that's not compliant about the current installation but, in that case, he should explain why he believes that and what action he plans to take to rectify it (and, for a 10 year old boiler, the answer is still not a new boiler, IMHO).
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Good old British Gas. Chances are the boiler would be an easy fix, they just get a kick back out of selling overpriced boiler changes. £4k! Got to be double the going rate, surely? I'd get someone round you can trust for a 2nd opinion.
They got shown up on Watchdog for saying that parts were unavailable when local plumbers had no such problem sourcing the parts. It doesn't help the OP but personally I would go with a reputable independent rather than British Gas, just on principle. :)
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got a couple of quotes for 2k now so am having to bite the bullet and get it done
now ive just got to find the cash!
the chaps moveing it from the loft to the kids bedroom,half the proplem with the old one is to do the flue right they need to but up scaffolding so thats 800 before you start.
I had boiler removed from the small bedroom and into the bathroom. Just didn't like the idea of a boiler in a bedroom, regarding fumes and carbon monoxide.
in any case a good lovely lethal combination ;D :y
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I still find it odd that a 10 year old boiler gets written off so easily. Parts must still be available. Unless a combination of high value parts have failed in it, surely the sensible option would be to fix it? :-\
mine is 22 years old and seems like its going burry me ;D
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good points about the bedroom
but hes 15 now so it should help him get up in the morning! also the chap fitting it is also including a carbon monoxide sensor with the fitting.
we are doing it this way because we think its the best option if we keep the old boiler we have got to have the flue changed so thats 600 pounds of scaffolding plus new flue,then the boiler still needs fixing so approx 12-1400.we also dont know how long the boiler will last so in six months we get proplems again.buy having new we get a more modern system thats got to be more economical it will come with a warranty and we get a 250 cashback off our insurance.so in real terms its going to be costing about 400 pounds for a new system.