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Title: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Del Boy on 16 December 2012, 16:12:42
Don't know if anyone knows, basically we've got a 7 Series and we're taking the number plates off, rather than having them on the boot and front bumper, have them in the windows, basically a friend wants to borrow the car for a wedding, and thinks it'll look better going down the road with no plates  ???. Don't ask me I just said he could borrow it  ;D. Personally I've said to him, for the sake of a number plate, there's no point in risking getting pulled over? As I'm unsure on the law though I don't know what to recommend  :).

Number plates will be located:

In the window next to the tax disc:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/83fad7ec.jpg)

Also on the rear window, behind the Blind:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/824325a5.jpg)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: PhilRich on 16 December 2012, 16:17:42
I reckon any trafpol would pull the car over for the plate obstructing clear vision at the front Del, but that's just my take on it tbh  :-\     
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Nickbat on 16 December 2012, 16:21:24
Almost certainly illegal as the plates will not be illuminated and additionally may not be able to be deciphered by ANPR equipment.

Definately a No, No, IMHO.  ;)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: martin42 on 16 December 2012, 16:22:30
i would leave them on,if they want to take pics around the car,fix the plates on with strong velcro so they can be removed easliy and replaced afterwards
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Del Boy on 16 December 2012, 16:26:12
i would leave them on,if they want to take pics around the car,fix the plates on with strong velcro so they can be removed easliy and replaced afterwards

Well this is what I said to him, they're only screwed on anyway, so it's hardly a strenuous job. Apparently he & she would like pictures of the car as it's entering the place they're going too. Well it's down to him if he wants to risk it, as long as he sorts out his insurance cover, anything is liable to him should he get pulled over.
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 16 December 2012, 16:58:33
i would leave them on,if they want to take pics around the car,fix the plates on with strong velcro so they can be removed easliy and replaced afterwards

Well this is what I said to him, they're only screwed on anyway, so it's hardly a strenuous job. Apparently he & she would like pictures of the car as it's entering the place they're going too. Well it's down to him if he wants to risk it, as long as he sorts out his insurance cover, anything is liable to him should he get pulled over.

Number plates must be positioned on the front and on the back of the vehicle at their extreme points.  Be careful also Del that as the keeper, the registered owner, of the vehicle you will be responsible for any offence committed and therefore have to pay a fine of up to £1,000.  I personally would tell your friend a polite "NO" to what he wants to do.  It is just not legal on a public road. ;)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 December 2012, 17:01:56
rear plate will be an issue if moved away from its illumination source
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 December 2012, 17:05:47
http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/plates.htm
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 December 2012, 17:08:29
Number Plate Law

The law states that,

    You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
    Characters must not be moved from one group to the other
(e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).

Thats a farce to start with, the DVLA have and maybe still showing plate sales that have been modified to look like "Private Plates"  :-X
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2012, 17:13:27
I'm with Lizzie here Del, it's just not worth any potential hassle just so the photos can look better and will they really??  :-\
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 16 December 2012, 17:17:02
Why not just leave them where they should be, get some nice wide black tape and just tape over them while the photos are being taken.
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 December 2012, 17:39:04
Why not just leave them where they should be, get some nice wide black tape and just tape over them while the photos are being taken.

Seems sensible to me. :y You certainly won't get away with them in the windows if stopped. That would really get his wedding day off to a good start. ::)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Rods2 on 16 December 2012, 17:39:33
Just use Photoshop to remove them afterwards. Any decent wedding photographer should be able to do this.  :y

Even if you removed the number plates you would still need to use Photoshop to hide the screw holes!  ::)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 December 2012, 17:56:48
Just use Photoshop to remove them afterwards. Any decent wedding photographer should be able to do this.  :y

Even if you removed the number plates you would still need to use Photoshop to hide the screw holes!  ::)

Yeah.. For that matter. Plates on a black car won't take long to remove. :y
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Turk on 16 December 2012, 19:02:38
Personally I think it looks pants without plates.  Some 'old school' black and silver plates would look good, but again there's the same old killjoy legal issues again. 
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2012, 19:13:12
What is it that they don't like about having the plate on show Del.  :o :o

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/cc78249d16a91e14c20090ae8a021d81.jpg)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 December 2012, 19:16:31
What is it that they don't like about having the plate on show Del.  :o :o

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/cc78249d16a91e14c20090ae8a021d81.jpg)

The truth emerges. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 December 2012, 19:23:02
I think taking the gamble on your wedding day would be a mistake...why bother with the hassle?
Quite understandably any police officer would pull over a vehicle with no VRN plates.
Why not get some vanity plates and affix them at the location if they don't want the original VRN on display?
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 December 2012, 19:27:31
Why not just leave them where they should be, get some nice wide black tape and just tape over them while the photos are being taken.

Seems sensible to me. :y You certainly won't get away with them in the windows if stopped. That would really get his wedding day off to a good start. ::)

I thought it was only front windows that were an issue and not the rear ones.  Front doors and screen from what I can see are ok, the rears  are xxx rated in case they cant wait to start the honey moon.  ::)
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2012, 19:40:15
What is it that they don't like about having the plate on show Del.  :o :o

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/cc78249d16a91e14c20090ae8a021d81.jpg)

The truth emerges. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

Oh Dear, I hope he takes that in the good spirit that it was intended.  :-[ :-[

As said, is it possible to clip some vanity plates on for the church photo's, then remove them for the journey and put them back on as they enter the venue drive/car park for the reception arrival photo's?   :-\
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Nickbat on 16 December 2012, 20:56:35
What is it that they don't like about having the plate on show Del.  :o :o

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/cc78249d16a91e14c20090ae8a021d81.jpg)

The truth emerges. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

Oh Dear, I hope he takes that in the good spirit that it was intended.  :-[ :-[

As said, is it possible to clip some vanity plates on for the church photo's, then remove them for the journey and put them back on as they enter the venue drive/car park for the reception arrival photo's?   :-\

Anyone know when the 81 registrations will become available? I need to place an order.  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: cleggy on 16 December 2012, 22:56:50
Is the law different for trade plates ???
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 December 2012, 00:05:07
Is the law different for trade plates ???

Actually, by law trade plates only cover what is contained in them so should definitely be at the extremities... Number plates are slightly different but I wouldn't risk it
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Vamps on 17 December 2012, 00:13:26
I remember many, and I mean many years ago driving new cars on trade plates, in Darlington following a Police car the passenger kept looking back at me, no number plates, trade plate lying flat on the dash, eventually I realised what he was looking for, lifted up the trade plate, got a thumbs up and off he went, think I was about 19 at the time.... :y :y
Title: Re: Laws on number plate locations
Post by: Del Boy on 17 December 2012, 09:51:54
What is it that they don't like about having the plate on show Del.  :o :o

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/cc78249d16a91e14c20090ae8a021d81.jpg)

You've found me out  ;D ;)

In all seriousness I'll just tell him to leave the plates on, there's no point in risking it to be honest.