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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: dazzle72 on 19 December 2012, 16:27:39

Title: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 19 December 2012, 16:27:39
Really starting to wish we hadnt bought it now. Had the codes read the other day which is bringing up a code for the cat (2.2 petrol) which is hopefully down to the blow on the exhaust manifold, now the service light (car symbol with spanner through it) keeps coming on and car keeps going into limp mode. If it starts fine then its ok, if its a bitch to start and seems to be missing slightly then its in limp mode. Is it worth checking for oil/water in plug wells, or changing plugs anyway? Or any other ideas?
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: ffcgary1 on 19 December 2012, 16:28:57
Read the codes again and post up on here.
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2012, 16:43:09
You seam to have posted a lot, all about the same issue really.

Get the codes read, list them here.

A leaking exhaust manifold is a known problem, you need to fix this first, then get the codes read again.

Its quite possible things like cam sensor codes (which causes limp mode/spanner light) can be thrown up by other issues. By all means check plugs, dead easy on 2.2.

But you need to resolve your known problem first, before guessing any other issues
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 19 December 2012, 16:50:26
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2012, 16:52:10
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something

Cat is after the manifold  ;)

Its quite likely, but you need to fix what you know to be wrong first, then go from there  :y
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: Entwood on 19 December 2012, 17:03:06
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something

As the only "cat" codes I know of are 0420/0430 and relate purely to the precat efficiency, and there is a wealth of info on the forum regarding how un-important such codes actually are .. other than the "annoyance" effect ...

You have been asked, several times .. what the exact codes are .. until you tell us we cannot assist, as anything we do is purely unsubstantiated guess work, which has no place in a logical diagnosis attempt.
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2012, 17:04:29
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something

As the only "cat" codes I know of are 0420/0430 and relate purely to the precat efficiency, and there is a wealth of info on the forum regarding how un-important such codes actually are .. other than the "annoyance" effect ...

You have been asked, several times .. what the exact codes are .. until you tell us we cannot assist, as anything we do is purely unsubstantiated guess work, which has no place in a logical diagnosis attempt.

DBW V6 Only  :y
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: Entwood on 19 December 2012, 17:06:58
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something

As the only "cat" codes I know of are 0420/0430 and relate purely to the precat efficiency, and there is a wealth of info on the forum regarding how un-important such codes actually are .. other than the "annoyance" effect ...

You have been asked, several times .. what the exact codes are .. until you tell us we cannot assist, as anything we do is purely unsubstantiated guess work, which has no place in a logical diagnosis attempt.

DBW V6 Only  :y

Standard OBDII codes .. and AFAIK the 2.2 is OBDII  ???

Especially as

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90576.0

lists nowt as a "CAT" code .. ??

There are several O2 codes .. but the OP is adamant its a "CAT" code ...
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: RobG on 19 December 2012, 17:10:03
Thanks again peeps. Is it possible the manifold is the cause of all the problems? When the codes were read the other day the only code was for the cat, so I suppose thats something

As the only "cat" codes I know of are 0420/0430 and relate purely to the precat efficiency, and there is a wealth of info on the forum regarding how un-important such codes actually are .. other than the "annoyance" effect ...

You have been asked, several times .. what the exact codes are .. until you tell us we cannot assist, as anything we do is purely unsubstantiated guess work, which has no place in a logical diagnosis attempt.

DBW V6 Only  :y
The DBW 2.2 will throw an 0420 Mark ;)
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2012, 17:12:28
Oh, my mistake  :-[ :-[

Never seen a 2.2 give a P420/30 though?  ::)

Stand corrected :)
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: RobG on 19 December 2012, 17:13:53
Oh, my mistake  :-[ :-[

Never seen a 2.2 give a P420/30 though?  ::)

Stand corrected :)
I have. SteveAFC on here, his Desmond was always throwing one ;)
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: symes on 19 December 2012, 18:54:52
Had this -problem is water leaking from EGR manifold on back of cylinder head=coolant enters exhaust=missfires =lamba sensor dont like water=causes all sorts of codes /problems. Took me ages to find this simple problem now runs as miggy should :y :y
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 19 December 2012, 20:05:27
Thanks for all the responses, it is greatly appreciated. Sorry if I've annoyed anyone being a bit vague, but shes been chewing my ear off more and more as the week has gone on...... Anyway, its booked in next week for a new manifold gasket, etc and I'll get them to give it the once over for leaks etc whilst its in. Now, the guy that read the codes said bring it back once the manifold is done and he'll recheck for any codes for nothing, which is bloody nice of him. Should I take it to him as soon as the manifold is sorted, or run it a day or 2 and see if the EML comes back on or it goes into limp again? And will there be any codes stored as its been in limp mode 3 or 4 times?
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2012, 21:03:36
Booked in? Have you spoken to MarksDTM?

Also try Elite Pete, I'd highly recommend those chaps, they will know what they are doing  :y
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2012, 21:47:05
Be wary of garages and dealers, for some reason they seem to make a balls up with Omegas.

Might be worth a PM to Marks DTM Calib, see if he can recommend local garages.
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 20 December 2012, 16:56:37
I did pm MarksDTM earlier in the week, no reply as yet :( :(, and as its running progressively worse and I'm no tecchy, my hand was forced. Nothing that cant be cancelled though..............
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: TheBoy on 20 December 2012, 18:12:29
He is a busy bod....
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 20 December 2012, 18:42:22
I've gathered that. But at least her knowing its booked in has calmed her down, which is saving my ears........!!
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: Jimbob on 21 December 2012, 06:02:25
Mark has been away this week :y
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 21 December 2012, 08:14:48
Which explains a lot. Thanks for letting me know
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 21 December 2012, 13:29:16
Well, I thought I would have a look at the plug wells, see if there was any sign of oil. 2hours later........ There was that much oil in the wells, you couldnt see the plugs!! The car is now running better, and as I've said earlier I will be getting the codes re-read once the manifold is done. But is it worth changing the coil pack whether or not theres any codes related to that side of things, or shall I just wait and see?? (Running the car as normal today, re-checking and changing plugs tomorrow if alls well) Oh and I should add when we 1st got the car I checked the oil and left the cap off......!!
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: tunnie on 21 December 2012, 13:32:32
Don't go changing parts until you know they are faulty  :)
Title: Re: Bloody car!!
Post by: dazzle72 on 21 December 2012, 13:43:40
Okie dokie, makes sense. Will it leave codes specific to coil pack (if its left any??)