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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Vamps on 19 December 2012, 22:55:00
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Whilst reading a perfectly innocent post that descended into conversation that I do not understand I suddenly thought of posting something along the lines of not going to gain a plain English award and then came upon the following, it seems to me, like being PC it gets spoilt by going over the top - IMO
The following is from the Plain English Website, make of it what you will....... ::) ::) ::)
Debenhams has provided customers with a ‘plain English’ coffee menu, replacing potentially confusing terms such as ‘Cappuccino’ and ‘Caffe latte’ with ‘frothy coffee’ and ‘really really milky coffee’.
So, rather than ordering something that sounds exotic but which you’re not entirely sure about, you can now get precisely what you want in no uncertain terms.
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Good for them I say.
I get fed up of trying to get a large standard coffee with no frills, froth, chocolate sweepings, none standard milk when I go back to England.
Fortuneately I live here and just ask for a cafe grande con leche and that is perfect everytime.
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They need the TB approach IMO.
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All these pretentious coffee terms just seem to be an excuse to jack the prices up to me.
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Best place to drink coffee is australia .. they have made it almost an artform ..
http://www.ehow.com/how_2287438_interpret-australian-coffee-menu.html
In addition to that list you can also order my favourite
"strong black" - simply a double espresso but made with a single shot of water ... so it is REALLY strong and tasty ... bootiful :)
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When I have been to a coffee shop, I have asked for a bog standard english coffee, and been told..'Sorry, we don't do that'....whats that all about :o :o
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Had the most amazing Cappuccino in Cyprus while I was out there. TBH honest we in the UK are pretty cak at making coffee
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When I have been to a coffee shop, I have asked for a bog standard english coffee, and been told..'Sorry, we don't do that'....whats that all about :o :o
That's my point, dress it up how you like, here swmbo drinks black coffee, I drink white coffee ( I should say coffee with milk to be PC, but it's OK to say black coffee).......... ::) ::) ::)
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When I have been to a coffee shop, I have asked for a bog standard english coffee, and been told..'Sorry, we don't do that'....whats that all about :o :o
No money in it. It's just cofee, as you/we are saying.
I've never been in Starbucks or cost a cofee. With the later the clue s in the name IMO!
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To be honest, I do not like the perculated crap....its never hot !!!!! :(
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HOORAY.....
I have always deliberatly asked for a strong black coffee when confronted with these pretentious looking lists of types of coffee .
I often have it thrown back at me by the staff who try to persist in asking me to choose from their silly list but a long cold stare speaking the words " listen to me , I want a strong black coffee if you sell it ... please..." soon makes them conform.
What a poncy way of selling coffee... >:(
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Chris ....what's the TB way....although I dread to ask... ;D
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When I have been to a coffee shop, I have asked for a bog standard english coffee, and been told..'Sorry, we don't do that'....whats that all about :o :o
I like an ordinary cup of strong white coffee, as above. :y
I don't like a cup of hot milk with a splash of coffee in it, froth, chocolate, cinnamon, cream, ice cream or any crap like that!! >:(
I like a cup of hot water, coffee and a splash of milk. White coffee!! :)
I believe that in a 'posh' coffee shop if you ask for an 'Americano' (black coffee) with milk, then you end up with a white coffee!! Hope that helps!! ;) ;D
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To be honest, I do not like the perculated crap....its never hot !!!!! :(
I'm sure frothy coffee can be found on the "gay" list. ;)
I much prefer instant personally.
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Good for them I say.
I get fed up of trying to get a large standard coffee with no frills, froth, chocolate sweepings, none standard milk when I go back to England.
Fortuneately I live here and just ask for a cafe grande con leche and that is perfect everytime.
Is that the half milk half water coffee ? if so that is the best coffee in the world. I am usually a tea drinker but when in Spain I have to have that coffee, can't get enough of it.
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There's a little tiny coffee shop in Reading that make the best coffee I've ever tasted - and, by default, it comes as just regular old coffee with milk (unless you ask for it black)..
Otherwise mine's a half fat long tall dark white light soy extra froth caramel salt whip latte..
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I believe that in a 'posh' coffee shop if you ask for an 'Americano' (black coffee) with milk, then you end up with a white coffee!! Hope that helps!! ;) ;D
They'll still charge £3 a cup for it, sadly. ::)
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Being a tea drinker, if I fancy a coffee for a change I am confronted with a board with a meaningless list of coffee types. If I ask for a 'normal' coffee, as in instant coffee, they say "Oh, you mean a regular" and it is always bitter and horrible, hence I usually have a pot of tea. :)
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I believe that in a 'posh' coffee shop if you ask for an 'Americano' (black coffee) with milk, then you end up with a white coffee!! Hope that helps!! ;) ;D
They'll still charge £3 a cup for it, sadly. ::)
McDonald's do good coffee. It's good and simple, white or black and reasonably priced at about £1.60! :y
The only problem is that you have to leave it for a week for it to cool down enough to drink!! ;D
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Oh, that's the other thing. The English language is equipped with perfectly good vocabulary for describing the size of a vessel where several options are available. Small, medium and large conveys the required information concisely and without ambiguity.
Why don't any coffee shops understand this? Why do they have to invent their own stupid foreign sounding terms? >:( If you do ask for a Medium coffee just to hedge your bets why do they then proceed to sell you a bucket of the stuff? >:(
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My argument too, Kevin......learnt now to ask for a small, problem is, some places then give you a thimble sized Expresso (can't see the point of that stuff.)
Everybody come to our next Wycombe meet.....you will get Nescafe in the cup from a jar, with kettle boiled hot water poured on top. Milk and sugar is your choice ;D And as much as you can drink :y
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My argument too, Kevin......learnt now to ask for a small, problem is, some places then give you a thimble sized Expresso (can't see the point of that stuff.)
Everybody come to our next Wycombe meet.....you will get Nescafe in the cup from a jar, with kettle boiled hot water poured on top. Milk and sugar is your choice ;D And as much as you can drink :y
Proper coffee as it should be, now you're talking. :y
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Although I can agree and sympathise with some of the comments I certainly don't agree with all.
Agreed that when I ask for "a coffee" as I did at a coffee bar on a cross channel ferry last time I crossed, I expect to get a coffee of moderate size in a cup. I was served with what can only be described as a bucket of donkey pee in a paper beaker. I gave it back and asked for an espresso, after I tasted it.
Starbucks, Costa Coffee have ruined the industry, IMO.
As for the terms like "latte" or "cappucino", these have been around for years in UK and everybody seems to understand them. Nobody has ever wanted to change the word "espresso" so why these other two?
Other words in the language. It's bound to happen - there are many words in the English language used regulary that are not originally from the Engish language, and often the origins not even known by the users of the words. Similarly, there are many, many English words used in other languages regulary - "internet" for example.
I would be inclined to think the coffee indusry has, unfortunately, been Americanised. "Regular coffee"? Why not just "coffee".
Nescafe. Ok, if nothing else available.
All that said, I normally drink espresso. Easy. No confusion.
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Starbucks & Costa don't know how to make coffee, give me a bowl of custard instead :y
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I believe that in a 'posh' coffee shop if you ask for an 'Americano' (black coffee) with milk, then you end up with a white coffee!! Hope that helps!! ;) ;D
They'll still charge £3 a cup for it, sadly. ::)
McDonald's do good coffee. It's good and simple, white or black and reasonably priced at about £1.60! :y
The only problem is that you have to leave it for a week for it to cool down enough to drink!! ;D
On the very odd trip I make to McDonalds with Miss Vamps, I find that too, there last Saturday, got a coffee, water boils at 100 degrees C how come there's is hotter?.......... ::) ::) ::)
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My argument too, Kevin......learnt now to ask for a small, problem is, some places then give you a thimble sized Expresso (can't see the point of that stuff.)
Everybody come to our next Wycombe meet.....you will get Nescafe in the cup from a jar, with kettle boiled hot water poured on top. Milk and sugar is your choice ;D And as much as you can drink :y
Proper coffee as it should be, now you're talking. :y
Gotta be joking, ain't ya?
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You don't need to go to a fancy shop to get "proper" coffee if you have the right kit yourself ... :)
You can also enjoy different coffees ... This ones a rather nice one from Guatamala...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/3738/img6954g.jpg)
Enjoy .. I do .. :)
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Had the most amazing Cappuccino in Cyprus while I was out there. TBH honest we in the UK are pretty cak at making coffee
I not a coffee nut, but best Cappuccino I've had was at Rome's main airport early this year. No stupid mugs or fuss or squirty cream, just a damn nice cofeee. Price €1.50 ! So just over a quid, and some little nibbly things included as well. Just try getting that at Heathrow or Gatwick.
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You don't need to go to a fancy shop to get "proper" coffee if you have the right kit yourself ... :)
You can also enjoy different coffees ... This ones a rather nice one from Guatamala...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/3738/img6954g.jpg)
Enjoy .. I do .. :)
Best way to make it Entwood , yourself........
We've been through several filter and expresso machines inc the iconic boiler that we still occassionally use, but my wife treated me to this "bean to cup " machine recently .
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/IMGP0001.jpg)
Absolute perfection every time .
I now buy all our coffee from this guy too who roasts his own , the descriptions are 100% accurate and taste as coffee should .
http://www.coffeemojo.ie/coffee/
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Cafe Americano every time for me ;)
Followed by custard