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Title: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 23 December 2012, 09:03:56
I recently bought a 2002 unmarked v6 special direct from the PSNI here via an auction. When i got it home and put it on the ramp i have made a very nice discovery. She was already a low miler with just 57k but i have now found out that she has had a brand new engine and gearbox. Both have the plates with R part numbers and are lovely and shiny, also a new starter, rear calipers, front pads and backing plates, new centre sections and two new dunlop tyres. The car was bought as a non runner, a  friend found a cut earth wire and live feed to the ecu loom, now reconnected and running really well. One downside is a slipping clutch, however i bought a genuine 3 piece kit on ebay awhile back for 60 posted so it will now have a use. She is in need of a good buff as i would guess its been brush washed all its life, tried a wing and the blue flake is really coming up well :y The limited slip diff is lovely and tight with no snatching but locked with a dip of the clutch. I intend on doing a progress thread. I already have a brand new prodrive bumper and spoiler to be painted and fitted, mv6 cloth (until i can find leather), silver trim and a good set of late elite/sport wheels. Lowering springs will also help the look of her together with a remus twin square exhaust which is currently on my dad's car.

Hard to get a low miler now and i im looking forward to racking up a few miles on this project when i get it sorted
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Varche on 23 December 2012, 10:25:32
Sounds like a good buy. Look forward to progress reports and pictures. :y
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: jonny2112 on 23 December 2012, 12:02:51
Good work  :y
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 23 December 2012, 12:05:47
Nice result there! :y :y :y

The only question is if she has a new engine and gearbox, with only 57k on the clock for her entire life (? or since new engine?) why does the clutch need replacing already? ??? ???
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: VXL V6 on 23 December 2012, 12:12:28
Because most X plods haven't been driven with much respect in their service life.  :-X
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: albitz on 23 December 2012, 12:47:56
Nice result there! :y :y :y

The only question is if she has a new engine and gearbox, with only 57k on the clock for her entire life (? or since new engine?) why does the clutch need replacing already? ??? ???

WPC driver ? :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: jonny2112 on 23 December 2012, 12:56:28
Nice result there! :y :y :y

The only question is if she has a new engine and gearbox, with only 57k on the clock for her entire life (? or since new engine?) why does the clutch need replacing already? ??? ???

WPC driver ? :D ;D ;D

Hahaha  ;D controversial  ;)
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 23 December 2012, 13:26:04
I have had 30 omegas so far and in my experience 3.2 x police ones all need clutches around 50 k, a combination of rash driving and multiple drivers is not kind to them,
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 23 December 2012, 14:06:04
I have had 30 omegas so far and in my experience 3.2 x police ones all need clutches around 50 k, a combination of rash driving and multiple drivers is not kind to them,

Yes, I can understand that after knowing a few police drivers and what they have to put their patrol cars through! :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 December 2012, 17:17:19
Sounds great - can't wait for the pics :y
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: dbug on 23 December 2012, 19:10:37
But . . .  as Lizzie said if its had a new engine and a new gearbox why refit a knackered clutch assembly??  Something doesn't ring true there mate  ;)
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 23 December 2012, 19:16:24
Well, it def has a new engine and box, the clutch is definately slipping in second, how long it was between the engine refit and clutch going i dont know, couldnt have been long. It does seem strange not to have done a clutch but i will get history of the car from a friend in vauxhall. New clutch should be fitted this week, its getting buffed tommorow, cant wait
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 23 December 2012, 19:42:25
Our 'new' 61 plate Beemer has got 24k on the clock and the clutch has started slippin  :o . Won't see that back now till the new year!!!  :o  :'(
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 29 December 2012, 15:44:17
How do people on here insure a 3.2 v6 special? ??? when i look on websites it obviously only lists the 3.2 mv6's [all auto],

Cheers AL
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 29 December 2012, 16:46:40
How do people on here insure a 3.2 v6 special? ??? when i look on websites it obviously only lists the 3.2 mv6's [all auto],

Cheers AL

Ring them, and depending on the company, either hang up in frustration, or explain it's a V6 Special, or Special V6, or GLS V6, or any one of two dozen other alternatives. I pay £50 more for the privilege but then at least I know it's insured properly.

 There was the wonderful lady trying to quote me happy who was convinced I must in fact own a Vectra. And presumably a very strong glasses prescription.
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 December 2012, 18:06:34
Ended up insuring mine with Adrian Flux for £1200 :y insured on Registration number as a 3.2 Elite Auto. They are aware it's a manual, and will cover modified/lpg 8)

Trying to get quotes was a total mare, basically insurance firms were using the fact that the reg didn't produce a vehicle in their (limited) lists as an excuse not to quote >:( so I did some shopping around and went for the policy I did on recommendation from a couple of people here :y Did get a few quotes below £1000, but the average excess was nearly £750 :o

Insuring two of them will cost me over £2500 :'( which is king annoying as I have 4years untransferable NCD on a taxi policy, which is due for renewal in a couple of weeks. The daft thing is I am expecting the renewal quote to be about £2300 including the NCD, which puts it into perspective :-\

May continue to insure one as a taxi just in case :-\ at least then I can claim the premiums back ::)
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 29 December 2012, 19:32:21
I tried greenlight as a 3.2 auto mv6 but as you say best to have it properly insured, was considering a trade policy because i tend to swop cars alot, cant wait to get it on the road, finishing the buffing on sunday , will get pics up after
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: zirk on 30 December 2012, 13:36:03
How do people on here insure a 3.2 v6 special? ??? when i look on websites it obviously only lists the 3.2 mv6's [all auto],

Cheers AL

Ring them, and depending on the company, either hang up in frustration, or explain it's a V6 Special, or Special V6, or GLS V6, or any one of two dozen other alternatives. I pay £50 more for the privilege but then at least I know it's insured properly.

 There was the wonderful lady trying to quote me happy who was convinced I must in fact own a Vectra. And presumably a very strong glasses prescription.

Got a 3.2 Manual Special that thinks its a Vectra on the Insurance Data, most of the time they are listed on the Data Base as Omega Specials, another thing to check is its not Data Base as Armoured as that really pushes the cost up.
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Omega6pot on 30 December 2012, 14:02:06
Mine taxbook says v6 special so hopefully not armoured anywhere on the database, ive had a few x armoured omega here, used to transport judges in.n.ireland, really rough body wise but great for parts including bilstien b8's
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: Keith ABS on 30 December 2012, 14:23:27
Armoured version would be good for banger racing then!! :y
keith B
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 30 December 2012, 16:03:37

Got a 3.2 Manual Special that thinks its a Vectra on the Insurance Data, most of the time they are listed on the Data Base as Omega Specials, another thing to check is its not Data Base as Armoured as that really pushes the cost up.

That must have been even more frustrating than my conversation "no, I promise you, it's 15% bigger in every direction and definitely says Omega on the boot". She'd looked at mine being a 3.2 manual Vauxhall and that was all she had.
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: zirk on 30 December 2012, 17:04:32

Got a 3.2 Manual Special that thinks its a Vectra on the Insurance Data, most of the time they are listed on the Data Base as Omega Specials, another thing to check is its not Data Base as Armoured as that really pushes the cost up.

That must have been even more frustrating than my conversation "no, I promise you, it's 15% bigger in every direction and definitely says Omega on the boot". She'd looked at mine being a 3.2 manual Vauxhall and that was all she had.

Did think of that but its been de badged by the Police, only phoned up to tell them about the LPG on it but didn't;t get that far. ;D
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: ted_one on 30 December 2012, 17:20:56
Is there any way of finding out wether a car has any extra under body protection  as you are describing, as I have an ex DPG car and have never given any thought to the subject. I guess someone like Josh Wyatt may know :o
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 30 December 2012, 17:29:08
Nice result there! :y :y :y

The only question is if she has a new engine and gearbox, with only 57k on the clock for her entire life (? or since new engine?) why does the clutch need replacing already? ??? ???

WPC driver ? :D ;D ;D
:y :y :y
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2012, 17:30:13
Would have thought any armouring would be fairly obvious once carpets/door trims etc were out of the way :-\
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: ted_one on 30 December 2012, 17:41:27
Think you're right Al,I've had all three interiors right out including carpets and the two ex cop cars don't seem to be any different to the civvy car,and I would have thought like you it would have been obvious if there had been any mods,just was'nt sure wether they would have been internal or external :-\
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2012, 18:04:42
If I were to armour one then I would put kevlar sheeting inside all the panels, and along the firewalls and footwells. I would probably cover the underside with a nice thick stainless sheet with pans covering the drive train and fuel tank. A suitable layer of film inside impact resistant glass would finish it off along with runflat tyres. Suspension would require work as would brakes/steering and drivetrain to allow for the extra weight...

Wouldn't want the fuel bill though ;D
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: zirk on 30 December 2012, 18:36:49
Is there any way of finding out wether a car has any extra under body protection  as you are describing, as I have an ex DPG car and have never given any thought to the subject. I guess someone like Josh Wyatt may know :o

If your referring to your RED ex Met DPG then No, not armoured, your Car would have been DPG and SO6 in Central London, they were Armed Police Escorts for HM, Government Heads and High Risk Diplomats as well as being On Call for Critical Incidents and Armed Respnse.

The Armoured Migs would have been the unmarked ones carrying the VIPs themselves, well in London anyway.

Since the Omega's the Armed DPG/SO6 now use BMWs, prior to MIgs they used Sierra 4x4's all in the Fire Engine Red.

 ;)
Title: Re: Just found a 3.2 x police in Z20r, which has had new everything!!
Post by: ted_one on 30 December 2012, 19:18:08
Thanks Chris for clearing up the query,it only crossed my mind when the subject came up as the DPG being a specialised service thought they may have had a bit of extra protection on their cars as well. :y