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Title: The charity adverts
Post by: Bionic on 28 December 2012, 15:17:49
 ;)
I am curious as to how the children portrayed as being in such dire need are all clean skinned, appear to be well fed and well clothed too in new clothes on the adverts we are bombarded with? I mean, who drinks the 'filthy water' dressed in new clothes?
If the charities want me to give then I expect to be given a truer picture of the needs and not what otherwise seems to be a another ad merely to boost their coffers.....possibly for a new office building or set of company cars and let's not forget the salaries of the top board members that do not work for 'charity' needing a bit more to play with.
Cynical I may be called, but I am nobodys fool..........There again in my earlier years I did actually work among them for charity for a year but then became hardened by the amounts collected not all being used for the purpose intended. Only a small proportion ever got to where it was meant to go and I strongly suspect that it is the same today.
I also wonder if the heads of the charities give anything themselves?????? ???
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Rog on 28 December 2012, 15:56:04
I'm afraid that like so many others, I am now highly cynical about charity appeals, no matter how heart wrenching, deserving, sad, worthy etc etc.

It's no longer enough to pop a couple of quid into a collection box, or even make a premium phone call, they want "only" £2 a month or whatever by direct debit or somehow tagged onto your phone bill.

My questions are the same as many others ask. How much did this TV advert cost ? How much does your chief executive get paid ? How much do your fund raisers get paid ? etc etc.

Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: the alarming man on 28 December 2012, 16:46:34
the thing is with all these appels that are on tv who pays for the air time as it is not given as free????
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: albitz on 28 December 2012, 17:16:03
Im afraid Im also completely cynical about the whole charity industry these days too. They have brought it on themselves imo,but its a shame.
The latest example is the RSPCA.They have just spent approx. £350,000 on lawyers to prosecute a hunt for alleged illegal hunting of a fox.The hunt pleaded guilty rather then try to match the RSPCA spending power,despite the fact that the evidence against them was reportedly film footage of an already dead fox.
The fact that the hunt concerned was David Camerons local hunt may or may not have had something to do with their zeal in this matter.
Ironically the founder of the RSPCA was a keen huntsman. ::)
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: TheBoy on 28 December 2012, 18:19:35
I think my views on many (not all) charities are well known.

RSPCA has jumped into the "get stuffed" category now, after that stunt.

I'm embarrassed that MacMillon are also in the same one now, after refusing a £20 donation, but insisting I set up a direct debit for £10 a month. Then banging on my door every couple of days for a month.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: dbug on 28 December 2012, 19:24:13
Remember - charity begins at home  ;)
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 28 December 2012, 19:24:58
I used to donate £6/month to the RSPCA, had done for years, well since i got HollyDog.

A couple of years back i got a phone call from them asking me to up the direct debit.....

I wont say what i thought at the time.......but i cancelled the DD .....their loss.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: YZ250 on 28 December 2012, 19:41:41
I think my views on many (not all) charities are well known.

RSPCA has jumped into the "get stuffed" category now, after that stunt.

I'm embarrassed that MacMillon are also in the same one now, after refusing a £20 donation, but insisting I set up a direct debit for £10 a month. Then banging on my door every couple of days for a month.

My wife and daughter did the Race For Life a couple of times and then got hounded to set up a Direct Debit via phone calls for months after. Shame really, as they did it with a good heart but found the calls annoying in the end.

I used to donate £6/month to the RSPCA, had done for years, well since i got HollyDog.

A couple of years back i got a phone call from them asking me to up the direct debit.....

I wont say what i thought at the time.......but i cancelled the DD .....their loss.

My B-I-L used to donate £8 a month to RSPCA and after many annoying calls he cancelled the same as you.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Bionic on 29 December 2012, 11:51:42
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Rog....someone in the ad game years ago once told me that the general tv ad per minute costs was 10k a minute and that was many years ago. I should imagine that it has gone way up after the years that have gone by since. Add to that the cost of the actors and scenario backdrops and locations and it must be an astronomical sum that has to be regained before the charities claw their share before any gets to the causes our contributions was meant to reach.
Like you, I am now so cynical I simply do not give at all and also let the tin rattlers have a piece of the truth too whenever they 'attack' me.
My will includes a total bequeathment to a dogs charity that is not the RSPCA or PDSA, neither of which I have any respect for after many run in's with them when they refused to help yet almost demanded a contribution after their refusals to act!
Charity they say does begin at home!
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: STMO123 on 29 December 2012, 12:08:44
I told NSPCC if they didn't stop ringing, I'd cancel the DD. They stopped.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Chris_H on 29 December 2012, 16:23:32
I was tempted to make a donation due to an "Emergency" letter just today.  I even went to the website, but when I trawled my emails to see if I had a login/password, I found a "Sent" message complaining to them about a rude telephone cold-call from them a year or two back.

I just switched to another website and gave to them instead.

On the subject of starving kids in smart clothes, I produced a video some years back when I did a visit to Africa.  it was winter there at the time (14 degrees, would you believe ;D) and all the kids were wearing everything they owned and it all had holes, was inappropriate (a teenage boy wearing a sheep-covered pullover, girls in bridesmaids dresses that dragged on the ground etc.), and shoes were often unrecogniseable as such, let alone the right size.  On showing the video, one person remarked that the kids were smartly dressed and I had to re-play it to point out the reality.

It is a difficult message to get across and millions are deserving of support IMHO.  I can't disagree with the points expressed though.

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac107/Chris_H3/Misc/Shoes_zps1f9343b1.jpg)
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 December 2012, 16:28:58
If charities can finance this level of concentrated TV advertising they either don't need my money or won't spend it wisely anyway.

Likewise with direct debits, which I refuse to get into. If they won't accept my donation gratefully, in whatever form I choose to make it, they can go forth and multiply.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: cleggy on 29 December 2012, 17:50:22
I only give to charities that use the money in the UK. :y :y :y
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Rog on 29 December 2012, 17:58:10
If charities can finance this level of concentrated TV advertising they either don't need my money or won't spend it wisely anyway.

Likewise with direct debits, which I refuse to get into. If they won't accept my donation gratefully, in whatever form I choose to make it, they can go forth and multiply.

Yep, same here. But recently the "Chuggers" have got a bit of a bad name due to press exposes of the organisation behind them.

I love it when the Chuggers ask me "Don't you care about  - (Children/babies/puppies/old people/out of work bankers/cancer or whatever), and I simply say no !
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 29 December 2012, 18:23:08
For me it will always be The Salvation Army I give to :y :y :y :y

They are the ones that you will find giving comfort to the homeless, to those who have suffered a disaster of some type, and who also go to the trouble of entertaining the general public with their great bands.  The Sally is always there and can be relied to bring relief to those who need it.

They get my vote and money ;)
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: cleggy on 29 December 2012, 19:07:17
For me it will always be The Salvation Army I give to :y :y :y :y

They are the ones that you will find giving comfort to the homeless, to those who have suffered a disaster of some type, and who also go to the trouble of entertaining the general public with their great bands.  The Sally is always there and can be relied to bring relief to those who need it.

They get my vote and money ;)

SNAP  :y :y :y :y :y :y :y

When my uncle was brought home from Dunkirk with shrapnel head wounds he was hospitalized in Coventry. Impossible for his mum and sister( my mum) to visit, the other threee brothers were in the RAF. The Salvation Army stepped in helping with rail fares from Huddersfield and free accommodation monthly for over a year. He came home with a metal plate covering half of his skull and a changed personality who only survived another 6 months.

As a family the Salvation Army are always are top of our list in the charity stakes. :y :y
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: r1 on 30 December 2012, 16:37:39
For me it will always be The Salvation Army I give to :y :y :y :y

They are the ones that you will find giving comfort to the homeless, to those who have suffered a disaster of some type, and who also go to the trouble of entertaining the general public with their great bands.  The Sally is always there and can be relied to bring relief to those who need it.

They get my vote and money ;)

and mine
my wife just organized a event for cancer reserch and at least twice a week we  get a call to set up a direct debit.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: tigers_gonads on 30 December 2012, 18:07:41
I think my views on many (not all) charities are well known.

RSPCA has jumped into the "get stuffed" category now, after that stunt.

I'm embarrassed that MacMillon are also in the same one now, after refusing a £20 donation, but insisting I set up a direct debit for £10 a month. Then banging on my door every couple of days for a month.



I agree with what you say about Mc Millan  :(

I lost my grandma to lung cancer 10 years ago.
Anybody who has had to watch this happen will know just how awful it is to see.

Mc Millan nurses where wonderful and did the very best they could to help us all threw the last few nightmare days.
Because of this, we as a family decieded to donate a sum of money that we all chipped in.  I won't go into numbers but it went into 3 figures (we have a big family)

6 weeks after the cheque had cleared, my grandad recieved a very polite letter off them thanking him for the donation and asking him if he could make a further donation.
This upset him a great deal because he wasn't in a position to give anymore so he wrote them a letter explaning his situation.
A week later, he recieved a letter off them stateing that they knew he owned his own home and in the envelope was paperwork telling him how to rewrite his will in such a way that the house would be left to them after his death.  This letter was ignored but the bastards sent a futher 3 letters over the space of the next few months. 
A friend of the family works for the local BBC radio station and had a word with one of the shows producers who rang McMilan and told them in no uncertain terms if he recieved anymore letters, he would name and shame them live over the airwaves on a peak time show ......................The letters stopped  ;)

Nowdays, we all chip in a few quid each year (if we can afford it) and take it personally to a local hospice for terminally ill adults and kids where we hand over to cash personally. And we never have to ask for a recipt either  :)
Just our way of giving a little back  :)
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: Jukeboxnut on 30 December 2012, 21:19:21
I'm with Lizzie Zoom and will always donate to the Salvation Army an excellent charity where you can be assured virtually all of your donation will be used to good effect.
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: cleggy on 31 December 2012, 14:24:14
There was a charity advert on the TV today about supporting a Burmese child in poverty blah blah blah. Then on the midday news they announce that for the first time Burma is having a massive firework display to rival London, Sydney, New York to celebrtate the New Year proving the movement to a freer society. WTK, Spend the money on your kids in poverty >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The charity adverts
Post by: omega3000 on 31 December 2012, 14:45:01
My Uncle passed away not so long ago , to cut a long story short his wife never knew  Mc Millan had hounded him and persuaded him to sign his house over to them once my aunt passes away . My aunt is in a home now and  Mc Millan have took the house . These are despicable scum that prey on the elderly leaving the caring families with nothing . They had the highest paid barristers in court but my aunt was so frail she gave up leaving them with a huge amount of money  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Sorry but there is only one charity and thats looking after your own .