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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 04 January 2013, 14:57:19
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A brand new Audi A6 4.0 V8 Estate, something along lines of this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp)
She said she likes it ::)
Feels better built, which I can't deny the feel very solid.
When she started looking at a replacement, I suggested some very nice Insignia or Mondeo Estates, found a nice Elite Insignia 2.0 CDTi, leather the works.
Her first response? "Only a 2.0? I don't want anything less than a 3.0" :o :o :o :o :o
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Very nice. :y
You must be paying your parents too much keep when you visit the homeland. ;)
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Won't be that price or engine, more like a 12 month old example & diesel.
Looks like even with 3.2, myself and FatherT will have slowest cars :(
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That's very nice :y :y
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Over £50k she could get some nice cars for that price, and audi would not be on the list.
Heck you could have an Aston for that kind of money.
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Won't be that price or engine, more like a 12 month old example & diesel.
Looks like even with 3.2, myself and FatherT will have slowest cars :(
You're not wrong there Mark. I have my 3.2 Elite, a 330d E92 M Coupe and my wife has a 320d E92 M Coupe.
I'll get shot for saying this but the 330d will eat my Elite and embarrassingly the 320d will hang on to the Elite on top speed. Surprisingly, the 320 diesel will see 150mph on the clock, but not on our UK roads obviously. :)
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Over £50k she could get some nice cars for that price, and audi would not be on the list.
Heck you could have an Aston for that kind of money.
Yup, but where would two large dogs sit?
Has to be an Estate, as dogs can go in the back. If they see a cat or another dog although 90% time they are very good, they could jump all over place.
As she wants something with no less go than 3.0, get feeling she wants something with more go!
Means, E-Class Mercs, Audi A6 Estate, BMW 530d are main ones on the list
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Won't be that price or engine, more like a 12 month old example & diesel.
Looks like even with 3.2, myself and FatherT will have slowest cars :(
You're not wrong there Mark. I have my 3.2 Elite, a 330d E92 M Coupe and my wife has a 320d E92 M Coupe.
I'll get shot for saying this but the 330d will eat my Elite and embarrassingly the 320d will hang on to the Elite on top speed. Surprisingly, the 320 diesel will see 150mph on the clock, but not on our UK roads obviously. :)
Forgot about those, might have to take MotherT to BMW dealer.
Those 335d's don't half shift!
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with that sort of budget id have one of these estate's
http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer (http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer)
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Over £50k she could get some nice cars for that price, and audi would not be on the list.
Heck you could have an Aston for that kind of money.
Yup, but where would two large dogs sit?
Has to be an Estate, as dogs can go in the back. If they see a cat or another dog although 90% time they are very good, they could jump all over place.
As she wants something with no less go than 3.0, get feeling she wants something with more go!
Means, E-Class Mercs, Audi A6 Estate, BMW 530d are main ones on the list
Nah, sell the dogs an have an Aston :y
What about a Range Rover.
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Those 335d's don't half shift!
There's a fella at work who is blue & white battenberg if you slice him open and he reckons he made a mistake by buying his 335.. the mistake being he should have bought the 335d ;)
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I'd probably consider in the following order;
L322 Range Rover - Not the Sport, the 3.6 TDV8 is a wonderful engine, and the 4.4 TDV8 is becoming more affordable. At the lower end of the pricing is the Supercharged, which you've driven. TDV8's are perhaps the best compromise with fuel costs and performance.
530d or E320/E350 - Both very capable, comfortable etc.
Volvo V70 2009+
Although, for me the full size Range Rover is very hard to beat, spacious, comfortable and performance is excellent. Running costs are sensible aswell, even I've changed the front strut / air bag - so not too difficult to work on if you fancy some DIY every so often.
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Those 335d's don't half shift!
There's a fella at work who is blue & white battenberg if you slice him open and he reckons he made a mistake by buying his 335.. the mistake being he should have bought the 335d ;)
Few years ago my Uncle had 330i he drag raced a 330d, he won. But only just!
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I'd probably consider in the following order;
L322 Range Rover - Not the Sport, the 3.6 TDV8 is a wonderful engine, and the 4.4 TDV8 is becoming more affordable. At the lower end of the pricing is the Supercharged, which you've driven. TDV8's are perhaps the best compromise with fuel costs and performance.
530d or E320/E350 - Both very capable, comfortable etc.
Volvo V70 2009+
Although, for me the full size Range Rover is very hard to beat, spacious, comfortable and performance is excellent. Running costs are sensible aswell, even I've changed the front strut / air bag - so not too difficult to work on if you fancy some DIY every so often.
Very true, how did you get on working with yours? Think I would want to get some heavy duty bigger stands, maybe get a bigger jack too.
Are you about on Monday mate?
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I'd probably consider in the following order;
L322 Range Rover - Not the Sport, the 3.6 TDV8 is a wonderful engine, and the 4.4 TDV8 is becoming more affordable. At the lower end of the pricing is the Supercharged, which you've driven. TDV8's are perhaps the best compromise with fuel costs and performance.
530d or E320/E350 - Both very capable, comfortable etc.
Volvo V70 2009+
Although, for me the full size Range Rover is very hard to beat, spacious, comfortable and performance is excellent. Running costs are sensible aswell, even I've changed the front strut / air bag - so not too difficult to work on if you fancy some DIY every so often.
Very true, how did you get on working with yours? Think I would want to get some heavy duty bigger stands, maybe get a bigger jack too.
Are you about on Monday mate?
Mine was a '55' AJ-V8 SC, genuine parts - Air filter - £12, spark plugs £5 each x8, oil filter was £7ish and it takes 5w30 which is nice and cheap with VX TC. Fuel filter is not meant to be changed, it's part of the pump.
I'd think a 3.6 TDV8 would be more suitable, and prices are now from £15,000 for a 2006/2007 to £30,000 for a very low mileage 2009. The final facelift that came out at around '59' plate does have somewhat chav styling, but is much nicer on the inside, full TFT drivers instrument cluster, dual view screen etc.
I am indeed about on Monday :y
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I'd probably consider in the following order;
L322 Range Rover - Not the Sport, the 3.6 TDV8 is a wonderful engine, and the 4.4 TDV8 is becoming more affordable. At the lower end of the pricing is the Supercharged, which you've driven. TDV8's are perhaps the best compromise with fuel costs and performance.
530d or E320/E350 - Both very capable, comfortable etc.
Volvo V70 2009+
Although, for me the full size Range Rover is very hard to beat, spacious, comfortable and performance is excellent. Running costs are sensible aswell, even I've changed the front strut / air bag - so not too difficult to work on if you fancy some DIY every so often.
Very true, how did you get on working with yours? Think I would want to get some heavy duty bigger stands, maybe get a bigger jack too.
Are you about on Monday mate?
Mine was a '55' AJ-V8 SC, genuine parts - Air filter - £12, spark plugs £5 each x8, oil filter was £7ish and it takes 5w30 which is nice and cheap with VX TC. Fuel filter is not meant to be changed, it's part of the pump.
I'd think a 3.6 TDV8 would be more suitable, and prices are now from £15,000 for a 2006/2007 to £30,000 for a very low mileage 2009. The final facelift that came out at around '59' plate does have somewhat chav styling, but is much nicer on the inside, full TFT drivers instrument cluster, dual view screen etc.
I am indeed about on Monday :y
Quick search brought up this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472778561/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/15000/model/range_rover/make/land_rover/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/2?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201221472778561/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/15000/model/range_rover/make/land_rover/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/2?logcode=p)
Should go down well!
Will drop you a text, might pop over your way on Monday :) :y
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If you do pop over, we ought to have a good look through BCA and other places etc to give you a feel for the prices. The one you linked to, certainly does look nice, but I'm sure we can do even better than that. If you need any assistance - Let me know :y
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If you do pop over, we ought to have a good look through BCA and other places etc to give you a feel for the prices. The one you linked to, certainly does look nice, but I'm sure we can do even better than that. If you need any assistance - Let me know :y
Thanks Josh :y
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with that sort of budget id have one of these estate's
http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer (http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer)
Was thinking much the same ::)
£50k in cash might just persuade Bellingers to order one in...
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Do they not offer the Insignia estate as a VXR varient yet then?
Keith B
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Do they not offer the Insignia estate as a VXR varient yet then?
Keith B
Not many about, found 8 on Autotrader!
Look nice though... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201301024766917/sort/default/usedcars/engine-size-cars/2-6l_to_2-9l/body-type/estate/model/insignia/make/vauxhall/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201301024766917/sort/default/usedcars/engine-size-cars/2-6l_to_2-9l/body-type/estate/model/insignia/make/vauxhall/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500?logcode=p)
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There's a few of those on Network Q for around the £20k mark :y
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with that sort of budget id have one of these estate's
http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer (http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/showroom/default.aspx?id=clubsportr8tourer)
Was thinking much the same ::)
£50k in cash might just persuade Bellingers to order one in...
iam lead to beleave that if you go to a VXR dealer they can order you one for 40k.
lets hope 5 and 2 lucky stars tonite then thats it... gonna get one ::)
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Good luck on both counts :y
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I can confirm that a 330d manual will keep a 3.0l auto (sports mode - not that it matters on GS820 TCM) honest to quite high speeds. I can also confirm that Omega honour was upheld, as the 330d started to tail off badly before the 3.0l v6 did.
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Well they are off today to check out Merc Estates, she sat in them yesterday, liked power close boot.
Thinking maybe along these lines:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212174650318/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/10000/price-to/17000/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/body-type/estate/model/e_class/make/mercedes-benz/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1501/keywords/leather/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212174650318/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/10000/price-to/17000/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/body-type/estate/model/e_class/make/mercedes-benz/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1501/keywords/leather/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p)
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Tell her to keep the Omega. With preventative work, its reliable, and dirt cheap to run (fuel aside).
If she is worried driving about on her own down the motorway, the money saved will by a lifetime's AA membership ;)
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Tell her to keep the Omega. With preventative work, its reliable, and dirt cheap to run (fuel aside).
If she is worried driving about on her own down the motorway, the money saved will by a lifetime's AA membership ;)
The problem we've found is because I'm visiting home less, things are not being spotted, i suspect the rear shock had totally failed for around a month. I noticed it soon as I reversed it off drive, but she had been doing long runs to Surrey & back.
Think the exhaust had gone a couple of weeks ago too :(
Might keep an eye out for a low mileage newer MV6/Elite Estate
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Well they are off today to check out Merc Estates, she sat in them yesterday, liked power close boot.
Thinking maybe along these lines:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212174650318/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/10000/price-to/17000/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/body-type/estate/model/e_class/make/mercedes-benz/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1501/keywords/leather/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212174650318/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/10000/price-to/17000/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/body-type/estate/model/e_class/make/mercedes-benz/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1501/keywords/leather/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p)
Plenty of clocked ex cabs around, shopping at Mercedes is no guarantee for avoiding them either... best bet buy large engined petrol one to avoid the issue. :y be cheaper to buy, (much more car for your cash) and service too 8)
Just had a look, and if you can stretch to £24k Mother T can slum it in an E63 estate... plenty of 350 petrol estates within budget though :y
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I can confirm that a 330d manual will keep a 3.0l auto (sports mode - not that it matters on GS820 TCM) honest to quite high speeds. I can also confirm that Omega honour was upheld, as the 330d started to tail off badly before the 3.0l v6 did.
The later one's are blisteringly quick. We've had loads of trials and a lot of doubters will find this hard to believe but mid range an E92 330d/335d will inch away from an E92 M3 up to a ton and even BMW's own figures don't argue with that. The later M3's will have the edge over a ton but the 330d/335d will hit 155mph effortlessly, and I mean effortlessly. The 0-60mph is 5.9 seconds and mid range it is quicker than a M so it would be long gone before most people have dumped the clutch. The 330d/335d will hit the limited top speed easily with very little build up.
Embarrassingly the Omega figures are closer to the later 2.0d and it would take a good one to get away, but the 2.0d is nowhere near as refined as the straight six 3.0d.
As you know, through work I am in a position to 'test' these new cars against each other so I do speak from my own experience.
If people look at the figures of the later models, there really is no contest but people really should have a go to appreciate modern diesels.
Off my soap box now as I'll never convince you. ;D ;D
Sorry it's gone slightly off subject Tunnie. :)
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Tell her to keep the Omega. With preventative work, its reliable, and dirt cheap to run (fuel aside).
If she is worried driving about on her own down the motorway, the money saved will by a lifetime's AA membership ;)
The problem we've found is because I'm visiting home less, things are not being spotted, i suspect the rear shock had totally failed for around a month. I noticed it soon as I reversed it off drive, but she had been doing long runs to Surrey & back.
Think the exhaust had gone a couple of weeks ago too :(
Might keep an eye out for a low mileage newer MV6/Elite Estate
And why would she be able to spot failed shock/exhaust/whatever on an Audi/Merc/Shitbox any better than what she has?
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No problem, 330d Touring is possible option. Not sure if she has been to BMW yet.
This would fit bill, might need strap dogs down for the corners ;D
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491838428/sort/default/usedcars/price-from/10000/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/model/3_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491838428/sort/default/usedcars/price-from/10000/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/model/3_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/page/2/postcode/tw89de?logcode=p)
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Tell her to keep the Omega. With preventative work, its reliable, and dirt cheap to run (fuel aside).
If she is worried driving about on her own down the motorway, the money saved will by a lifetime's AA membership ;)
The problem we've found is because I'm visiting home less, things are not being spotted, i suspect the rear shock had totally failed for around a month. I noticed it soon as I reversed it off drive, but she had been doing long runs to Surrey & back.
Think the exhaust had gone a couple of weeks ago too :(
Might keep an eye out for a low mileage newer MV6/Elite Estate
And why would she be able to spot failed shock/exhaust/whatever on an Audi/Merc/Shitbox any better than what she has?
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If its got 10% of the mileage & its 2 years old instead of 12. Quite probable its going to be fine for a few years
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As a compromise, spend 6k or so getting the Omega refreshed: bodywork, new/overhauled running gear etc.
Sure it will still only be worth a grand tops, but you know that it will be good for another decade. Even if you spent 10k on it, it would still be dirt cheap motoring for those 10 years :y
Look at it this way, you aren't trying to make it more valuable, you are aiming to guarantee its continued usefulness :y
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The problem with sinking silly money into an Omega is that you'll only get £500 back for it when some idiot writes it off for you. :(
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The problem with sinking silly money into an Omega is that you'll only get £500 back for it when some idiot writes it off for you. :(
That though had crossed my mind, but does apply to some degree with any car regardless of price bracket :-\
A sensible approach would be to get any rust dealt with, along with new suspension bushes/shocks/springs, rebuild the braking system with new pipes/hoses/calipers, new exhaust and wheel bearings. Car should then be dependable with regular servicing for as long as is required :-\
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Nothing is set yet, its just with a 12 year old Estate, approaching 110k miles it does need fairly regular TLC. Which was not a problem, when I lived at home as I could do odd job here & there most days.
Now the difficulty is my availably to fix things, as currently the exhaust is no longer connected to the back box. A nice cheap replacement has been sourced from Eternal, but its going to be couple of weeks delivery on that, I can't see myself being able to help fit it until first week in Feb.
No doubt cats will need dropping, because the exhaust studs will snap. Means I need to find time when little fatty up the road is available too, all of which means MotherT is without a working Estate for almost a month.
Last time it was shocks, again, order but lot easier to fit. Still made her without Estate for 3 weeks, while I got parts and was available to come back home.
Yes she has the Almera, but its really not suitable for motorway runs and its far from safe should something happen.
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It is a conundrum, but that car is barely run in :-\ perhaps worth a stainless exhaust, shocks good for another 100k.
Components wear out, and given the age/mileage, this car is at the point were several seemingly significant parts are reaching the end of their life. Apart from the body and the bulk of the wiring, cars are essentially built up of wearing parts.
When faced with a few of these things at the same time, it is very easy to go window shopping. The only sensible advice that I can give is to be sure to do the sums very carefully. The purchase cost of a newer car will buy alot of parts, and if needed, garage time. Also the new car will still need fuel, tax, insurance, servicing, tyres etc.
My personal suggestion would be to renew any component on the Omega thast might see it stranding Mother T at the roadside, so Cam/crank sensor/fuel pump, dis pack, and HBV, keep on top of the servicing and give it a bloody good polish every couple of months. Keep a few pennies to one side just incase it has to visit a garage because you are otherwise engaged. You shouldn't go to far wrong with it :y
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They are cheap as chips to run, no doubt about that.
Another factory is I think MotherT fancies something new ::)
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Ah that old chestnut ::)
Might have a fight on your hands, but doesn't alter the fact that the Omega is the most economically efficient solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist :y
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If its got 10% of the mileage & its 2 years old instead of 12. Quite probable its going to be fine for a few years
Well, my Mum's beemer failed its first ever MOT on 2 rear shocks. One of Mrs TB's lease cars needed the RAC on the very first day we had it. My old, beloved Rover 25 was back in the dealers for repair the day after I got it. My bro's X5, although 7 or 8 years old now lives in North Oxford BMW, always has - hopefully the £7k on a new gearbox will finally overcome the constant drivetrain issues its always suffered.
New does not always mean more reliable ;). In fact rarely so. You know what you have done to your own, rather than what some dealer or garage has claimed to have been done. Thus its reliability increases, simply due to that.
Omega owners have the advantage of a wealth of knowledge, and a willingness to help, from OOFers. And many (but sadly not enough) members have access to full dealer level diagnostics equipment within a 1hr drive.
Better the devil you know.
Of course, if she fancies a change, all the above counts for shit ;D
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If its got 10% of the mileage & its 2 years old instead of 12. Quite probable its going to be fine for a few years
Well, my Mum's beemer failed its first ever MOT on 2 rear shocks. One of Mrs TB's lease cars needed the RAC on the very first day we had it. My old, beloved Rover 25 was back in the dealers for repair the day after I got it. My bro's X5, although 7 or 8 years old now lives in North Oxford BMW, always has - hopefully the £7k on a new gearbox will finally overcome the constant drivetrain issues its always suffered.
New does not always mean more reliable ;). In fact rarely so. You know what you have done to your own, rather than what some dealer or garage has claimed to have been done. Thus its reliability increases, simply due to that.
Omega owners have the advantage of a wealth of knowledge, and a willingness to help, from OOFers. And many (but sadly not enough) members have access to full dealer level diagnostics equipment within a 1hr drive.
Better the devil you know.
Of course, if she fancies a change, all the above counts for shit ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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That Audi would do me; very nice indeed! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
After that all I would want is a V12! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
In my dreams though! ;)
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No doubt cats will need dropping, because the exhaust studs will snap.
if the exhaust had been fitted correctally,eg run the flanges with a 5/16 drill then fitted m8x65 nuts bolts washers and lots o copperslipage wouldnt need to drop front pipes. ???
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No doubt cats will need dropping, because the exhaust studs will snap.
if the exhaust had been fitted correctally,eg run the flanges with a 5/16 drill then fitted m8x65 nuts bolts washers and lots o copperslipage wouldnt need to drop front pipes. ???
Done too many exhausts, bet 3 of the 4 snap. To be fair, it's same one that was on the car when we bought it almost 5 years ago now
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No doubt cats will need dropping, because the exhaust studs will snap.
if the exhaust had been fitted correctally,eg run the flanges with a 5/16 drill then fitted m8x65 nuts bolts washers and lots o copperslipage wouldnt need to drop front pipes. ???
Done too many exhausts, bet 3 of the 4 snap. To be fair, it's same one that was on the car when we bought it almost 5 years ago now
well then just dot punch the snaped ones then run a small pilot hole then put the 5/16 drill thro.
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No doubt cats will need dropping, because the exhaust studs will snap.
if the exhaust had been fitted correctally,eg run the flanges with a 5/16 drill then fitted m8x65 nuts bolts washers and lots o copperslipage wouldnt need to drop front pipes. ???
Done too many exhausts, bet 3 of the 4 snap. To be fair, it's same one that was on the car when we bought it almost 5 years ago now
well then just dot punch the snaped ones then run a small pilot hole then put the 5/16 drill thro.
Yup, been there many times, its just an arse doing it on the garage floor.
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Was going to change my exhaust myself, until I started the job ::)
Ended up taking it to my local tyre place :-\ Best £35 I spent that month ;D
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Yeah, got an Eternal one on the way myself, and wondering if I can be bothered... ::)
I do have the use of my mate's 2 post lift, though.
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Actually, I'm wondering why I wouldn't drill right through the threads on the cat flanges and put a nut on the other side, then just treat the nuts and bolts as consumables, chop them off and replace next time.
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I'd recommend an F11 530d Auto to be honest if the budget will stretch to that? The 3.0 Diesel is extremely refined, it will be quicker and far more fuel efficient than her Omega (sorry but it will), the Autobox is silky, the ride is smooth, the drive and feel is fantastic and they're very solidly built. Most important of all, they're a big, comfy, rear drive cruiser :).
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Actually, I'm wondering why I wouldn't drill right through the threads on the cat flanges and put a nut on the other side, then just treat the nuts and bolts as consumables, chop them off and replace next time.
Like that idea, should have done that on the 3.2, recall though due to the pipe angle, sometimes it was difficult to get a decent size nut both ends :-\
I'd recommend an F11 530d Auto to be honest if the budget will stretch to that? The 3.0 Diesel is extremely refined, it will be quicker and far more fuel efficient than her Omega (sorry but it will), the Autobox is silky, the ride is smooth, the drive and feel is fantastic and they're very solidly built. Most important of all, they're a big, comfy, rear drive cruiser :).
Fully Agree on the fuel use, V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Won't stretch to F11, be previous shape £15k if she did swap would be around the kind of budget I think :y
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Actually, I'm wondering why I wouldn't drill right through the threads on the cat flanges and put a nut on the other side, then just treat the nuts and bolts as consumables, chop them off and replace next time.
Like that idea, should have done that on the 3.2, recall though due to the pipe angle, sometimes it was difficult to get a decent size nut both ends :-\
I'd recommend an F11 530d Auto to be honest if the budget will stretch to that? The 3.0 Diesel is extremely refined, it will be quicker and far more fuel efficient than her Omega (sorry but it will), the Autobox is silky, the ride is smooth, the drive and feel is fantastic and they're very solidly built. Most important of all, they're a big, comfy, rear drive cruiser :).
Fully Agree on the fuel use, V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Won't stretch to F11, be previous shape £15k if she did swap would be around the kind of budget I think :y
The E61 still has a very good engine, although it is less refined than the F11, it'll still be quicker & better on fuel than the Omega though. £15,000 should get you a relatively high spec model. Which would she be looking at M Sport or SE?
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V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Most 6 cylinder engines are silky smooth, whether petrol or diesel. Obviously diesels still clatter when cold, but not as bad as they used to.
A modern diesel needs a different driving style to get the best out of them, although I doubt this would be an issue for your mum. In fact, she may get on better, due to all that midrange torque.
Despite the manufacturers service schedule, still essential for more regular oil changes, far moreso than petrols.
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V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Most 6 cylinder engines are silky smooth, whether petrol or diesel. Obviously diesels still clatter when cold, but not as bad as they used to.
A modern diesel needs a different driving style to get the best out of them, although I doubt this would be an issue for your mum. In fact, she may get on better, due to all that midrange torque.
Despite the manufacturers service schedule, still essential for more regular oil changes, far moreso than petrols.
I'd also echo that :y.
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Actually, I'm wondering why I wouldn't drill right through the threads on the cat flanges and put a nut on the other side, then just treat the nuts and bolts as consumables, chop them off and replace next time.
Like that idea, should have done that on the 3.2, recall though due to the pipe angle, sometimes it was difficult to get a decent size nut both ends :-\
I'd recommend an F11 530d Auto to be honest if the budget will stretch to that? The 3.0 Diesel is extremely refined, it will be quicker and far more fuel efficient than her Omega (sorry but it will), the Autobox is silky, the ride is smooth, the drive and feel is fantastic and they're very solidly built. Most important of all, they're a big, comfy, rear drive cruiser :).
Fully Agree on the fuel use, V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Won't stretch to F11, be previous shape £15k if she did swap would be around the kind of budget I think :y
The E61 still has a very good engine, although it is less refined than the F11, it'll still be quicker & better on fuel than the Omega though. £15,000 should get you a relatively high spec model. Which would she be looking at M Sport or SE?
V6 is already smooth never driven a very modern derv yet, but all reports say they are fantastic.
Most 6 cylinder engines are silky smooth, whether petrol or diesel. Obviously diesels still clatter when cold, but not as bad as they used to.
A modern diesel needs a different driving style to get the best out of them, although I doubt this would be an issue for your mum. In fact, she may get on better, due to all that midrange torque.
Despite the manufacturers service schedule, still essential for more regular oil changes, far moreso than petrols.
I'd also echo that :y.
I've always preferred Sport spec, found the SE steering wheels too thin :(
Don't think she has been in BMW yet, might take her out to sit in one.
Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
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Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
You got the diags equipment to reset the service intervals? ;)
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Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
You got the diags equipment to reset the service intervals? ;)
Bugger :(
Wonder how you remove the bulb ::)
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Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
You got the diags equipment to reset the service intervals? ;)
The reset on those is a piece of widdle, no diagnostic tools are needed :).
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The Sport will ride a lot harder, and the front bumper means you must be careful of curbs because the Sport bumper is quite low.
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Whilst you cannot discount the better economy (and possibly) performance of a newer car, the savings are potentially irrelevant.
£15k buys an awfully large amount of fuel,,,
11278 ltrs of Unleaded @ £1.33 ppl.
People always seem to overlook that when costing a potential purchase. Don't forget that a new car will still need servicing/taxing/insuring/tyres (potentially king expensive runflats), and last but not least, fuel. Any finance also adds to the cost, and don't forget depreciation as well. A new highpressure diesel pump could cost enough to buy a new VX V6, £1800 for a 3.2 last time I asked.
All of which is why I said to do the sums very carefully... :y
But, as TB said, it all counts for shit if she just fancies a change ::)
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Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
You got the diags equipment to reset the service intervals? ;)
The reset on those is a piece of widdle, no diagnostic tools are needed :).
What about brake service reset, need to know for a MINI
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So if I've got this right, Mother T fancies a change of motor and one of the reasons is that Tunnie hasn't got the time anymore to devote to Omega maintenance? ??? Mother T is prepared to spend up to £15,000 on said new motor with the likes of Mercedes, BMW and Range Rover bandied about. :)
Because Tunnie is a busy boy these days and hasn't the time to help out his poor old Mum, the new car will have to go to a garage/dealer for servicing and maintenance..... :-\
It's a bit ironic that the £15,000 car will be packed off to the garage/dealer to get fixed and maintained, yet the poor old £800 Omega has to wait until Tunnie has time!!! :-\ Why not (and some will find this idea a bit radical! ;D) get a good local garage to look after the Omega, if only for the urgent stuff.... ;) :)
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If its got 10% of the mileage & its 2 years old instead of 12. Quite probable its going to be fine for a few years
Well, my Mum's beemer failed its first ever MOT on 2 rear shocks. One of Mrs TB's lease cars needed the RAC on the very first day we had it. My old, beloved Rover 25 was back in the dealers for repair the day after I got it. My bro's X5, although 7 or 8 years old now lives in North Oxford BMW, always has - hopefully the £7k on a new gearbox will finally overcome the constant drivetrain issues its always suffered.
New does not always mean more reliable ;). In fact rarely so. You know what you have done to your own, rather than what some dealer or garage has claimed to have been done. Thus its reliability increases, simply due to that.
Omega owners have the advantage of a wealth of knowledge, and a willingness to help, from OOFers. And many (but sadly not enough) members have access to full dealer level diagnostics equipment within a 1hr drive.
Better the devil you know.
Of course, if she fancies a change, all the above counts for shit ;D
Until the omega i has a run of diesels which once started would run and run.
Today i wouldnt bother with a modern diesels. The expense list starts with Dual mass flywheels, diesel particle filters, exhaust gas recirculation valves, leaking stuck injectors, variable vain turbos...
And if its a french marque, you have the designed in by the manufacturer induced labour charges. (bolts in impossible locations)
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Same here, one thing I would continue to do is oil changes.
You got the diags equipment to reset the service intervals? ;)
The reset on those is a piece of widdle, no diagnostic tools are needed :).
What about brake service reset, need to know for a MINI
Loads of clips on You Tube showing you how to do the resets for MINI and BMW. Oh, I forgot, you don't do You Tube do you. ;) ;D
Well if you did, you'd find the answer. Go on, we'll never know. ;) ;D ;D
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She's spending your inheritance Tunnie, get your Mum a Nissan Micra ;D
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She's spending your inheritance Tunnie, get your Mum a Nissan Micra ;D
I'm thinking she needs a VXR8, if only they did an Estate version readily available here. Reckon I could convince her!
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Range Rover, Range Rover, Range Rover
Who said that?
;D
In a nice classic dark green or blue without privacy glass for me is hard to beat. She'd be in good company with fellow RR driver's.
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/126652419_jNg4UU1W_zps88b081c9.jpg)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/126652421_xWyAdteB_zps05da0feb.jpg)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/6966875644_f5973c7653_b_zps5e93b283.jpg)
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She's spending your inheritance Tunnie, get your Mum a Nissan Micra ;D
Agreed.The old model is fine and dandy for an elderly lady to pop to the shops in. :y
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There's an F reg Metro for sale in Horsham :y
3 door Vanden Plas, looks mint, only £900 ::)
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I don't know why you can't swing Mother Tunnie towards an Insignia 2.8V6 VXR 4X4 Tourer for around £35k. :y :y
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Insignia VXR's are fantastic :-* :-*.
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Going to take her to look at Insignias next I think, like idea of RR for her, about as safe as you can get.
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A brand new Audi A6 4.0 V8 Estate, something along lines of this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp)
She said she likes it ::)
Feels better built, which I can't deny the feel very solid.
When she started looking at a replacement, I suggested some very nice Insignia or Mondeo Estates, found a nice Elite Insignia 2.0 CDTi, leather the works.
Her first response? "Only a 2.0? I don't want anything less than a 3.0" :o :o :o :o :o
Something very similar to that passed me on the inside coming up Whitechapel road this evening.The lights had just turned red and he didnt feel like stopping so he gave it a bootful.It didnt half shift,and sounded very nice.
Completely the wrong place to be doing it of course. ::)
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A brand new Audi A6 4.0 V8 Estate, something along lines of this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491699683/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/engine-size-cars/4l_to_4-9l/model/a6/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/tw89de/radius/1500/page/1/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucnnp)
She said she likes it ::)
Feels better built, which I can't deny the feel very solid.
When she started looking at a replacement, I suggested some very nice Insignia or Mondeo Estates, found a nice Elite Insignia 2.0 CDTi, leather the works.
Her first response? "Only a 2.0? I don't want anything less than a 3.0" :o :o :o :o :o
Something very similar to that passed me on the inside coming up Whitechapel road this evening.The lights had just turned red and he didnt feel like stopping so he gave it a bootful.It didnt half shift,and sounded very nice.
Completely the wrong place to be doing it of course. ::)
Problem is, Albs, nice as Audis are, they do attract drivers which are, at best, plonkers (albeit rich plonkers). ;) :( :( :(
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Well,it was white. ;) ::) ;D
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Well,it was white. ;) ::) ;D
Copy that. 10-4, Albs. ;) ;D
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Well today I took her to look at the Insignia Estate's, what a huge disappointment! The boot is pathetic, its soo small. It has no height to it, the dogs would not be able to sit up. Even the sales man said "its not a dog car" ::)
We went past Nissan, randomly looked at Qashqai +2, that had a bigger boot!
She quite liked X-Trail, useful boxes in the boot under the floor. Seats were quite nice, although everything was a bit plastic.
Like to say a big thanks to Josh Wyatt as he joined us at Oxford Motorpark to demo a Range Rover. MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
But with budget we have limits us to 2006 to 2007 era really, same budget gets lot newer Estates.
Next on the list to look at is Merc E220 or E320 Estates or BMW 530d
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MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
I can confirm that joshwyatts old SC Rangie, with its Brembo 6 pots, was not a patch on an Omega around the lanes... ...there were flames licking off the drivers side pads, but I kept him talking, so he didn't notice. Sshhh, our secret :-X
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Well today I took her to look at the Insignia Estate's, what a huge disappointment! The boot is pathetic, its soo small. It has no height to it, the dogs would not be able to sit up. Even the sales man said "its not a dog car" ::)
We went past Nissan, randomly looked at Qashqai +2, that had a bigger boot!
She quite liked X-Trail, useful boxes in the boot under the floor. Seats were quite nice, although everything was a bit plastic.
Like to say a big thanks to Josh Wyatt as he joined us at Oxford Motorpark to demo a Range Rover. MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
But with budget we have limits us to 2006 to 2007 era really, same budget gets lot newer Estates.
Next on the list to look at is Merc E220 or E320 Estates or BMW 530d
If you're going to consider a 4 pot diesel have a look at a 520d, or even a 525d which is a straight 6 also :y.
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MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
I can confirm that joshwyatts old SC Rangie, with its Brembo 6 pots, was not a patch on an Omega around the lanes... ...there were flames licking off the drivers side pads, but I kept him talking, so he didn't notice. Sshhh, our secret :-X
Yeah, decided I wouldn't have to drive that long before demolishing something. :-X
Shame, because it was nice in a straight line.
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MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
I can confirm that joshwyatts old SC Rangie, with its Brembo 6 pots, was not a patch on an Omega around the lanes... ...there were flames licking off the drivers side pads, but I kept him talking, so he didn't notice. Sshhh, our secret :-X
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
I can confirm that joshwyatts old SC Rangie, with its Brembo 6 pots, was not a patch on an Omega around the lanes... ...there were flames licking off the drivers side pads, but I kept him talking, so he didn't notice. Sshhh, our secret :-X
I've got to say, Josh is a good sport and remarkably calm as a passenger in his own car :-X :y
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MotherT drove it and instantly felt at home, she was flying in it. Down country lanes she said late "I kept it under 70mph" ::) :o ;D
I can confirm that joshwyatts old SC Rangie, with its Brembo 6 pots, was not a patch on an Omega around the lanes... ...there were flames licking off the drivers side pads, but I kept him talking, so he didn't notice. Sshhh, our secret :-X
I've got to say, Josh is a good sport and remarkably calm as a passenger in his own car :-X :y
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That's because he actually TRUSTS you lot, the poor deluded youth! ;D ;)
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That's because he actually TRUSTS you lot, the poor deluded youth! ;D ;)
Ahhh, yes, what it is to be young and foolish ;D
Still, as he says to me, better than being old and miserable, the cheeky git!