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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 20:59:38

Title: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 20:59:38
Hi all, whilst trying to solve my strange code readings following HG change (see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426)) I followed the wires from the throttle body and uncovered this hidden in the conduit:

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l510/Phil_Steward/Olly%20the%20Omega/2013-01-14204239_zpscd9df4f4.jpg)

The two bare connections you can see were both covered in very brittle and failing tape of some sort. From the two connections the wires both head off into the connector for the throttle body. The other side splits into 2 or 3 other wires and they disappear off into the loom.

Are these connections normal? Why does the wire connect into more than one wire? What is the best way to make sure these connections are sound?

Cheers
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2013, 21:06:02
Your dropbox is shit, can't see pic...
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: Andy B on 14 January 2013, 21:07:38
Your dropbox is shit, can't see pic...

Please don't mince* your words .......  ;)

no pun intended .....  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2013, 21:16:27
Dropbox is pretty poor for photos, TBH
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 21:21:18
Dropbox is pretty poor for photos, TBH

Yep...just realised it is pretty poo! Gone back to photobucket, and hey presto! Now answers on a postcard please!
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: symes on 14 January 2013, 21:30:00
standard wiring connections there mate-thats how vx have 1 wire split into 3 or 4 as an example :y :y 
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 21:33:45
standard wiring connections there mate-thats how vx have 1 wire split into 3 or 4 as an example :y :y

Interesting, not likely to be my issue then...thought I had solved it! Should I just stick some insulation tape round them and leave them alone?
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: symes on 14 January 2013, 21:36:25
I have encountered problems on these joints-what I did was solder over them -then cover them up again :y :y :y
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 21:41:31
I have encountered problems on these joints-what I did was solder over them -then cover them up again :y :y :y

Excellent I was thinking solder.

What should I cover with? The previous tape had obviously suffered badly as a result of the heat, although suppose wasn't doing too bad considering they must have been 12 years old!
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: symes on 14 January 2013, 21:48:59
I borrowed harness tape from work ;D but cant see why electrical tape wont do it-shouldnt get that hot-try it and see-after all what you got to lose?
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 21:54:55
I borrowed harness tape from work ;D but cant see why electrical tape wont do it-shouldnt get that hot-try it and see-after all what you got to lose?

Thanks a lot! If only that were to solve my weird fault issue is would be over the moon!
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: symes on 14 January 2013, 22:07:17
Wierd issue?????
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 22:19:24
Wierd issue?????

The issues I am having in the following post:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426)

The car runs normal every other start, then the alternate start it has no accelerator response and revs high at 1250rpm and returns the code saying minimum throttle position not learned. Any ideas on this one?
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: symes on 14 January 2013, 22:28:38
nope but sounds like boggys car-2.2 got me stumped even new cam sensor-same as yours mate also gearbox threw fit as well so he got rid- :'(
hope you solve issue-could br those joins-mine mere pretty shot mate  :y
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: philsteward on 14 January 2013, 22:44:59
nope but sounds like boggys car-2.2 got me stumped even new cam sensor-same as yours mate also gearbox threw fit as well so he got rid- :'(
hope you solve issue-could br those joins-mine mere pretty shot mate  :y

Oh dear...cam sensor was going to be my next port of call! Car was fine before I stripped it and took the head off,  except for the gasket failure of course.

What was his gearbox fault?
Title: Re: What are these wires for?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 January 2013, 23:06:01
Wierd issue?????

The issues I am having in the following post:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110776.msg1393426#msg1393426)

The car runs normal every other start, then the alternate start it has no accelerator response and revs high at 1250rpm and returns the code saying minimum throttle position not learned. Any ideas on this one?

That's something up with the electronic throttle control, so I'd be making sure the throttle body is clean and the throttle moves smoothly, and also check the wiring connector on the throttle body and connections back to the ECU. If that's the only code, I very much doubt it's the cam sensor.

EDIT: Already said that in the other thread, though. ::)