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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 29 January 2013, 17:43:37
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Cats are one of the top threats to US wildlife, killing billions of animals each year, a study suggests.
The authors estimate they are responsible for the deaths of between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.
Writing in Nature Communications, the scientists said stray and feral cats were the worst offenders.
However, they added that pet cats also played a role and that owners should do more to reduce their impact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
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I wonder what the cull rate is for humans in cars ::)
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Cats are one of the top threats to US wildlife, killing billions of animals each year, a study suggests.
The authors estimate they are responsible for the deaths of between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.
Writing in Nature Communications, the scientists said stray and feral cats were the worst offenders.
However, they added that pet cats also played a role and that owners should do more to reduce their impact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
Perhaps we should leave the animal kingdom to be what it is, and stop interfering. Survival of the fittest and evolution and all that.......
We, as humans, seem intend on changing the course of evolution ...... for what I am not sure
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The nature presenter chris packham said something along these many years ago. Strangely he was not on TV for many years after that. He has only recently been back on TV
And if I see chris packham on fire I would not wee on him and his type.
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Jesus christ,it's the same old same old ::)what about the effects of humans on wildlife and more importantly the world wide enviroment,example..take a look at the changes in weather patterns,that has an untold impact on all forms of life including humans.I for one am sick of these axe grinders who want their fifteen minutes of fame but don't engage their brain before opening their mouths.I do my bit for the local wild life by making sure that the birds are fed on a daily basis and I've even been feeding a fox for the last two years, and by doing that it does'nt pull all the rubbish out when the bins are out for collection.
I've got a couple of cats and yes occasionally you do get the odd mouse or bird,but the older cat goes for rats and the odd squirrel,which although I would prefer that it did'nt kill anything they are both classed as pests and are killed by who? yupp!humans.Also where did the feral cats come from...DURR... now let me think... ermm humans ???
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there is no creature which threat the wildlife more than humans.. sadly..
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i find that chris packham is a self opinionated ignorant prat if you dont aggree with his way he will do anything toget you off the programs hes working on
thats what happend to bill oddie he threatend that if he was bot removed from the bbc he would stop the beeb useing the nature reserves for the watch programs because bill did not agrre with packham leting his dogs run free on the set they were chasing and killing the small animals around theplace he said it was cats which he has a cruel and morbid vendeta against them the beeb said that bill was ill but that was not true the same happend to kate humble luckly she fell on her feet with the beeb .he is a biggited jgnorant oaf
there is no doubt he knows his stuff but unless you totaly agree with him he gets or trys to get you fired
rant off
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Cats are one of the top threats to US wildlife, killing billions of animals each year, a study suggests.
The authors estimate they are responsible for the deaths of between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.
Writing in Nature Communications, the scientists said stray and feral cats were the worst offenders.
However, they added that pet cats also played a role and that owners should do more to reduce their impact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
Perhaps we should leave the animal kingdom to be what it is, and stop interfering. Survival of the fittest and evolution and all that.......
We, as humans, seem intend on changing the course of evolution ...... for what I am not sure
We didn't! Cats (apart from one wild species in Scotland) are not native to the UK, or indeed Western Europe, so it was only the domestication of wild cats (by HUMANS!) in the Middle East and parts of Asia which started the spread of the pet cat throughout the world. So, we "interfered" from the start!
I'm not a great lover of cats, but I can tolerate them quite happily. However, I do like to see responsible cat ownership - specifically the wearing of a bell to give wild birds a fighting chance. I have seen domestic cats take baby wrens and robins and, as I am keen on birds (who else would build a blue-tit box c/w with cctv!) I am not overly impressed. ;)
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While were on the subject,let's remind ourselves about the use of pesticides by our so called custodians of the countryside,which apart from wiping out large numbers of insects, the ones that are'nt killed the birds etc eat and feed their young and in turn they suffer the effects of these so called 'safe' compounds. We also ingest these chemicals in our non organic food so it filters all the way down the food chain,so perhaps could I suggest a little perspective here and shift a large part of the blame on too the human race! Cem made the point in one sentence ::)
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there is no creature which threat the wildlife more than humans.. sadly..
+1000%
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there is no creature which threat the wildlife more than humans.. sadly..
+1000%
:y :y :y definitly :y :y :y
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
:y :y yes nick i would be a good idra mine wear bells evan oxxy is a house cat :y :y
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
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sorry for thread creeping nick but packham realy winds me up
my appologys again nick
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
could say the same about some dogs but that would be a cheap shot as i like dogs aswell
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Cats are one of the top threats to US wildlife, killing billions of animals each year, a study suggests.
The authors estimate they are responsible for the deaths of between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.
Writing in Nature Communications, the scientists said stray and feral cats were the worst offenders.
However, they added that pet cats also played a role and that owners should do more to reduce their impact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
Perhaps we should leave the animal kingdom to be what it is, and stop interfering. Survival of the fittest and evolution and all that.......
We, as humans, seem intend on changing the course of evolution ...... for what I am not sure
We didn't! Cats (apart from one wild species in Scotland) are not native to the UK, or indeed Western Europe, so it was only the domestication of wild cats (by HUMANS!) in the Middle East and parts of Asia which started the spread of the pet cat throughout the world. So, we "interfered" from the start!
I'm not a great lover of cats, but I can tolerate them quite happily. However, I do like to see responsible cat ownership - specifically the wearing of a bell to give wild birds a fighting chance. I have seen domestic cats take baby wrens and robins and, as I am keen on birds (who else would build a blue-tit box c/w with cctv!) I am not overly impressed. ;)
Are you sure of that ? not being funny in any way, but surely the ones in Scotland must have come from somewhere south or east towards the end of the last ice age I would have thought.
Also seem to remember from my school days being told we had sabre tooth tigers here at some point.
Slightly off topic but I know, as I have seen them that there are crocodile teeth on the Isle of Wight. Of course I do suppose it really depends how far we want to go back. Yes I totally agree all our modern cats are modern things from a long way away.
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Someone mentioned furr paws ;D Figure this out=Humans can train a dog in 2/3 months A cat can train a human in about an hour :y :y
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Cats are one of the top threats to US wildlife, killing billions of animals each year, a study suggests.
The authors estimate they are responsible for the deaths of between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.
Writing in Nature Communications, the scientists said stray and feral cats were the worst offenders.
However, they added that pet cats also played a role and that owners should do more to reduce their impact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
Perhaps we should leave the animal kingdom to be what it is, and stop interfering. Survival of the fittest and evolution and all that.......
We, as humans, seem intend on changing the course of evolution ...... for what I am not sure
We didn't! Cats (apart from one wild species in Scotland) are not native to the UK, or indeed Western Europe, so it was only the domestication of wild cats (by HUMANS!) in the Middle East and parts of Asia which started the spread of the pet cat throughout the world. So, we "interfered" from the start!
I'm not a great lover of cats, but I can tolerate them quite happily. However, I do like to see responsible cat ownership - specifically the wearing of a bell to give wild birds a fighting chance. I have seen domestic cats take baby wrens and robins and, as I am keen on birds (who else would build a blue-tit box c/w with cctv!) I am not overly impressed. ;)
Are you sure of that ? not being funny in any way, but surely the ones in Scotland must have come from somewhere south or east towards the end of the last ice age I would have thought.
Also seem to remember from my school days being told we had sabre tooth tigers here at some point.
Slightly off topic but I know, as I have seen them that there are crocodile teeth on the Isle of Wight. Of course I do suppose it really depends how far we want to go back. Yes I totally agree all our modern cats are modern things from a long way away.
It's what I have read. The modern-day domestic cats all have their roots in the Middle East and, possibly to a lesser extent, in the Far East.
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
before animals, some humans must have, so we can beware ;D
ps: no offense for anyone here! I have "good" neighbours >:(
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
I rarely see you angry Entwood.. Why ?
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
I rarely see you angry Entwood.. Why ?
You want to see me happy cem ?? then give me permission to shoot all the cats that :
Dig up my plants, shit in my borders, kill the birds I feed,and shit in the sandpits of the children's play areas at the local nursery - so they have had to remove it.
If the cats were controlled, just like a dog, and kept indoors or on leads .. fine .. but if they are allowed to run wild I should be allowed to treat them as wild.
Cats are not just a nuisance.. they are a pest and should be treated as one.
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
I rarely see you angry Entwood.. Why ?
You want to see me happy cem ?? then give me permission to shoot all the cats that :
Dig up my plants, shit in my borders, kill the birds I feed,and shit in the sandpits of the children's play areas at the local nursery - so they have had to remove it.
If the cats were controlled, just like a dog, and kept indoors or on leads .. fine .. but if they are allowed to run wild I should be allowed to treat them as wild.
Cats are not just a nuisance.. they are a pest and should be treated as one.
Entwood , cats are free souls you cant close them in a home forever.. But you can build some type of fences that they cant climb at least to protect your garden :-\
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
I would say yes, we have had a few on our accomplished hunter, but they has also had him 'hung' on several occasions, he thinks nothing of crawling through the hedge and the collar gets caught.... :-\ :-\ :-\
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
I rarely see you angry Entwood.. Why ?
You want to see me happy cem ?? then give me permission to shoot all the cats that :
Dig up my plants, shit in my borders, kill the birds I feed,and shit in the sandpits of the children's play areas at the local nursery - so they have had to remove it.
If the cats were controlled, just like a dog, and kept indoors or on leads .. fine .. but if they are allowed to run wild I should be allowed to treat them as wild.
Cats are not just a nuisance.. they are a pest and should be treated as one.
Entwood , cats are free souls you cant close them in a home forever.. But you can build some type of fences that they cant climb at least to protect your garden :-\
So now I have to go to the expense of building fences to keep vermin out ???
As someone far cleverer than I once said .. with freedom comes responsibility ... if folks want the freedom to own cats they have a responsibility to look after them .. and kicking them out every night to run feral is NOT being responsible.
I have a friend who owns a very expensive, and well trained cat, it is walked on a lead, and is never allowed "free running" outside the house .. it is a properly looked after and controlled animal.... if they can do it, so can all the rest.
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Definite thread creep going on here. ::)
Back to cats. Should domestic cats have bells on their collars? ???
Yup ... weight about 2 kilos then compulsory swimming lessons ... >:( >:( >:( >:(
I rarely see you angry Entwood.. Why ?
You want to see me happy cem ?? then give me permission to shoot all the cats that :
Dig up my plants, shit in my borders, kill the birds I feed,and shit in the sandpits of the children's play areas at the local nursery - so they have had to remove it.
If the cats were controlled, just like a dog, and kept indoors or on leads .. fine .. but if they are allowed to run wild I should be allowed to treat them as wild.
Cats are not just a nuisance.. they are a pest and should be treated as one.
Entwood , cats are free souls you cant close them in a home forever.. But you can build some type of fences that they cant climb at least to protect your garden :-\
So now I have to go to the expense of building fences to keep vermin out ???
As someone far cleverer than I once said .. with freedom comes responsibility ... if folks want the freedom to own cats they have a responsibility to look after them .. and kicking them out every night to run feral is NOT being responsible.
I have a friend who owns a very expensive, and well trained cat, it is walked on a lead, and is never allowed "free running" outside the house .. it is a properly looked after and controlled animal.... if they can do it, so can all the rest.
I see your point.. None of our cats are left outside at nights.. but daytime they are free either in home or outside.. all of them are taken from streets.. if I didnt they would die starving..
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on the otherside, all of them had operation which I did pay.. however, thats the communities responsibility not to throw their parents in the street at first..
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on the otherside, all of them had operation which I did pay.. however, thats the communities responsibility not to throw their parents in the street at first..
In uk, there are organisations that help with neutering.
A problem more related to humans than cats IMO.
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I can`t stand pigeons, orrible feathery noisy fat bastards. Shite all over the cars & garden furniture. I`m after a big moggy that I can train to nail these buggers. My JR hates them too The idiot starts barking first & then wades in with absolutely no hope. He took off after a pigeon with a wooden leg once, but spotted his lost ball lurking in the grass & fogot completely about his mission to destroy the enemy. Running round the garden in a lap of honour with Mr squeaky it was so embarrassing.
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I can`t stand pigeons, orrible feathery noisy fat bastards. Shite all over the cars & garden furniture. I`m after a big moggy that I can train to nail these buggers. My JR hates them too The idiot starts barking first & then wades in with absolutely no hope. He took off after a pigeon with a wooden leg once, but spotted his lost ball lurking in the grass & fogot completely about his mission to destroy the enemy. Running round the garden in a lap of honour with Mr squeaky it was so embarrassing.
:D :D :D :y
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on the otherside, all of them had operation which I did pay.. however, thats the communities responsibility not to throw their parents in the street at first..
In uk, there are organisations that help with neutering.
A problem more related to humans than cats IMO.
here is also.. but newbies are at work :(
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I have a friend who owns a very expensive, and well trained cat, it is walked on a lead
You would have a job walking 20 cats on a lead Cem ;D