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Title: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Nickbat on 30 January 2013, 22:32:18
...in high winds.  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9837026/Wind-turbine-collapses-in-high-wind.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9837026/Wind-turbine-collapses-in-high-wind.html)

£250,000 tower bites the dust. If only the rest could face the same demise.  ;)

Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: albitz on 30 January 2013, 22:42:52
Let us pray for more wind.Lots of it. :y ;D
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: the alarming man on 30 January 2013, 22:44:45
lucky there was no one underneath it
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Vamps on 30 January 2013, 22:45:44
To be honest I am a little lost for words.... :o  It beggars belief to me and we have hundreds of the damn things littering the countryside...... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: omega3000 on 30 January 2013, 22:46:19
Pattern part bolts  ::) ;D
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Post by: Entwood on 30 January 2013, 22:47:25
Pattern part bolts  ::) ;D

nah .. pikeys nicked the bolts ....   :)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 January 2013, 23:26:31
That's a bit of a blow...  :)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Vamps on 30 January 2013, 23:46:07
Pattern part bolts  ::) ;D

nah .. pikeys nicked the bolts ....   :)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Elite Pete on 31 January 2013, 07:08:48
Came down in 50mph wind, just wait until it gets proper windy ::)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Terbs on 31 January 2013, 09:15:56
That's a bit of a blow...   :)

Doh.........I appreciated it if no-one else got it ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 January 2013, 10:22:54
Well if one can fail so easily, it does make you wonder about the rest!

Imagine if they had been around in the storm of 1987.  Not would there be scenes of trees all lying on their sides, but wind turbines as well! :o :o :o 

Bet there are a lot of worried people in that industry! ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Varche on 31 January 2013, 10:25:56
Well if one can fail so easily, it does make you wonder about the rest!

Imagine if they had been around in the storm of 1987.  Not would there be scenes of trees all lying on their sides, but wind turbines as well! :o :o :o 

Bet there are a lot of worried people in that industry! ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

I bet there is not. They will have replacement at governments cost written in the clauses. Same as they get paid if they are not generating. The worried people are actually the joe public - they just don't realsie it.
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 January 2013, 10:49:18
It was 'Gone with the wind'....  :)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: albitz on 31 January 2013, 11:19:58
It was 'Gone with the wind'....  :)

Frankly my dear Tigger,I dont give a damn. :D
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Rods2 on 31 January 2013, 15:03:25
Wrong kind of wind?  ::)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 January 2013, 18:01:47
Well if one can fail so easily, it does make you wonder about the rest!

Imagine if they had been around in the storm of 1987.  Not would there be scenes of trees all lying on their sides, but wind turbines as well! :o :o :o 

Bet there are a lot of worried people in that industry! ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

I bet there is not. They will have replacement at governments cost written in the clauses. Same as they get paid if they are not generating. The worried people are actually the joe public - they just don't realsie it.

"A spokesman for Wales-based firm Dulas said the generator had a five-year warranty"   :D ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Kate on 31 January 2013, 18:57:10
Was it built by Harland and Wolff?

They have bolt problems in the past. ;D
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Kate on 31 January 2013, 18:58:10
Or was it rivets? ;D

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Post by: Kate on 31 January 2013, 18:59:51
(http://thetact.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/windmill-on-the-sea-in-holland.jpg)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Rods2 on 31 January 2013, 21:12:12
Well if one can fail so easily, it does make you wonder about the rest!

Imagine if they had been around in the storm of 1987.  Not would there be scenes of trees all lying on their sides, but wind turbines as well! :o :o :o 

Bet there are a lot of worried people in that industry! ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

I bet there is not. They will have replacement at governments cost written in the clauses. Same as they get paid if they are not generating. The worried people are actually the joe public - they just don't realsie it.

"A spokesman for Wales-based firm Dulas said the generator had a five-year warranty"   :D ;)

That's alright then. If one falls over and kills or injures a few people, they can tell their relatives, don't worry it has a 5 year warrenty.  :o :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 11:25:32
Well if one can fail so easily, it does make you wonder about the rest!

Imagine if they had been around in the storm of 1987.  Not would there be scenes of trees all lying on their sides, but wind turbines as well! :o :o :o 

Bet there are a lot of worried people in that industry! ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

I bet there is not. They will have replacement at governments cost written in the clauses. Same as they get paid if they are not generating. The worried people are actually the joe public - they just don't realsie it.

"A spokesman for Wales-based firm Dulas said the generator had a five-year warranty"   :D ;)

That's alright then. If one falls over and kills or injures a few people, they can tell their relatives, don't worry it has a 5 year warrenty.  :o :o :o :o :o :o


That was not the question being asked by Varche ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Varche on 01 February 2013, 11:56:36
Five year warranty. I stand corrected. What idiot government minister agreed to that then.?  I wonder what the expected life of an installation is then? Five years and one day?

I always remember the M69 motorway (links M1 with M6) . It had only been open a few years and the surface was ripped up at great expense. The signs proudly proclaimed carriageway worn out.  At the time I remarked - I bet the contractor didn't repair their faulty work free of charge. I now bet no one got sacked either. Probably promoted to approving clauses in wind turbine contracts.
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 12:34:59
Five year warranty. I stand corrected. What idiot government minister agreed to that then.?  I wonder what the expected life of an installation is then? Five years and one day?

I always remember the M69 motorway (links M1 with M6) . It had only been open a few years and the surface was ripped up at great expense. The signs proudly proclaimed carriageway worn out.  At the time I remarked - I bet the contractor didn't repair their faulty work free of charge. I now bet no one got sacked either. Probably promoted to approving clauses in wind turbine contracts.

I agree Varche!  Five years is an extended warranty on a washing machine, not a huge piece of machinery that should have a 15-20 year guarantee, if not even more!

Rods2 also made that interesting point about personal injury when one of these things come down.  I bet the Government haven't got separate guarantee's from the supplying company for that event!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Entwood on 01 February 2013, 12:47:46
I'm confused ...     :(

Why would the Government have any say/input into the warranty on this item ?? and why would they care ??

Built by a private concern, operated by a private concern, on private land.

The government will lose no money by this "happening" and I'm certain that under H&S laws the PRIVATE companies concerned would have the correct insurance.
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 13:30:20
I'm confused ...     :(

Why would the Government have any say/input into the warranty on this item ?? and why would they care ??

Built by a private concern, operated by a private concern, on private land.

The government will lose no money by this "happening" and I'm certain that under H&S laws the PRIVATE companies concerned would have the correct insurance.

Well you could be right Entwood, but I, and obviously Varche, assumed the deals are backed by government subsidy and are involved in the final contract.  Perhaps not then! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thinking on about the warranty issue, I have remembered that in business we usually wrote down and off, by either straight line or staggered depreciation, equipment over five years, fixtures and fittings over 3 years.  So perhaps a 5 year warranty covers the companies for the time the capital equipment is written down (??) ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: ozzycat on 01 February 2013, 14:40:47
is it a design fault or was it erected properly

Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 15:36:12
is it a design fault or was it erected properly

They are apparently investigating that one! ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Nickbat on 01 February 2013, 16:39:56
Skullduggery afoot?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/9841848/Sabotage-suspected-at-toppled-wind-turbine-as-second-is-brought-down.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/9841848/Sabotage-suspected-at-toppled-wind-turbine-as-second-is-brought-down.html)

Much as I dislike them, if sabotage is confirmed, it would be a stupidly dangerous act. Those things can easily kill people when toppling over.  >:(
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Entwood on 01 February 2013, 16:45:20
When I said the pikeys nicked the bolts I was joking ..honest .. no inside knowledge at all .... :)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2013, 16:47:53
When I said the pikeys nicked the bolts I was joking ..honest .. no inside knowledge at all .... :)
So, suspect has a huge plastic box attached to the rear of his car... ::)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 February 2013, 16:50:55
The authorities will never catch the saboteurs!! They'll have bolted.......  ;)
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 17:07:11
Skullduggery afoot?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/9841848/Sabotage-suspected-at-toppled-wind-turbine-as-second-is-brought-down.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/9841848/Sabotage-suspected-at-toppled-wind-turbine-as-second-is-brought-down.html)

Much as I dislike them, if sabotage is confirmed, it would be a stupidly dangerous act. Those things can easily kill people when toppling over.  >:(

Now that is serious and beyond any joke :o :o :o :o :(
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2013, 19:00:37
So.. now we'll not only have to put up with these eyesores in the countryside but we'll be denied access to the area for miles around too in case we've got a pocketful of spanners. ::)

Still, a very irresponsible thing to have done. One of them landing on the bonce would smart a bit, I reckon. >:(
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: scimmy_man on 01 February 2013, 19:16:50
didnt the germans use TNT on a few some years ago? when the locals didnt want them,
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 February 2013, 20:12:05
I reckon the chances of a windturbine in a field toppling over and hitting someone is slim to be honest....  :-\  But think of all the diced lamb!!  :)

However they are cropping up in built up areas so that's a worry...  :(
Title: Re: Wind turbine collapses...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2013, 20:57:39
I reckon the chances of a windturbine in a field toppling over and hitting someone is slim to be honest....  :-\  But think of all the diced lamb!!  :)

However they are cropping up in built up areas so that's a worry...  :(

.. and alongside major roads in places. :o